sympathy for the strawberry

SonicBebs · 11.06.2011, 03:22 PM

i've just watched the live vid on their facebook page, its such an amazing song. Whenever i feel my love for sy wane or drift away i play this song and it fucks me up how good it is

sonic yoooooooooooooouuuuthhhhhhhh!!!!!!

i've said it before and now i've said it again

(fuck me Steve rocks)

noisereductions · 11.06.2011, 05:13 PM

my favorite track on Murray Street.

E. Noisefield · 11.06.2011, 07:37 PM

Top ten SY song, easily. Noisereductions- it's my favorite MS track also. Even better than Rain on Tin. Even better than Karen Revisited.

Love it.

noisereductions · 11.06.2011, 09:30 PM

"Karenology" is 2nd favorite. I always felt "Strawberry" Should open MS. THen the rest of the album as presented. It's just such an amazig slow builder. It's ... wow.

E. Noisefield · 11.06.2011, 11:33 PM

But then it would end with "Plastic Sun", which is just not a closer.

BTW: Karenology isn't on MS.

stu666 · 11.07.2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

Correction: Isn't Karenology the same song as Karen Revisited? Or I'm I wrong?

Yes, same song

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/sy/song328.html

Working title: "Dirge" aka "Karen II"
Debuted instrumentally in 2001, first performed with vocals at the 2002 All Tomorrow's Parties festival.
Part of the outro on the LP version is taken from the 10/07/01 debut of the song in NYC.
The fourth of five new compositions debuted by Sonic Youth in 2001.
Lyrics on sonicyouth.com have slight alterations: "Come home/some time" and "stuck in isolation" sang at the end.
TITLE CHANGED POST RELEASE: after the artwork for Murray Street had been finalized (yet prior to its release, I believe), Lee decided he preferred the title "KARENOLOGY" and the song's title was officially changed for all purposes other than, uh, the album release.

E. Noisefield · 11.07.2011, 10:23 AM

Oh shit, brain fart. YOU'RE RIGHT!!! Karenology = Revisited. Don't know what I was thinking. Mixed up "Ology" with "Koltrane".

I must have been having a retard moment.

I actually prefer the name "Karenology".

EVOLghost · 11.07.2011, 10:47 AM

Ummm if we're talkin' abuot the Karens....err....I prefer Koltrane. Only by a little bit.

rain on tin, Sympathy, Karen Revisited.

noisereductions · 11.07.2011, 10:49 AM

baby bulldog · 11.07.2011, 12:30 PM

Right after 9/11 they played at the Calvin and opened with Sympathy...then it was called Sylvia's Magic Chord....it's probably one the of the best concert moments I've ever had.

samuel · 11.07.2011, 07:52 PM

I always thought this song had too much going on. I would enjoy it so much more without Thurston's guitar (especially during the intro). Still, it's definitely an intriguing tune. Had Lee sang on it, it would be a stand out track for me.

Edit: Shared vocals between Lee and Kim would be the shit. I love those.

the ikara cult · 11.07.2011, 09:04 PM

it cushions the landing of unexpected harshness from the latter half of Murray St.

E. Noisefield · 11.07.2011, 10:26 PM

I swear.... SWEAR... that I hear horns (that's right- horns) in the intro part of the song, but the only horns on the album are credited to "Plastic Sun" or something.

E. Noisefield · 11.07.2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult

it cushions the landing of unexpected harshness from the latter half of Murray St.

The onyl real harshness on MS is "Plastic Sun". "Radical Adults..." is a classic SY jam that ends in a cacophony, but is mostly pretty smooth.

noisereductions · 11.08.2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by E. Noisefield

I swear.... SWEAR... that I hear horns (that's right- horns) in the intro part of the song, but the only horns on the album are credited to "Plastic Sun" or something.

there's horns on "Radical Adults"

noisereductions · 11.08.2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by samuel

I always thought this song had too much going on. I would enjoy it so much more without Thurston's guitar (especially during the intro).

no idea what yr talking about.

E. Noisefield · 11.08.2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

no idea what yr talking about.

Neither do I.

Are you sure you're thinking of the right song? Last track on Murray Street? Kim vocal? 'bout 7+ minutes? Freaking awesome? But "too much going on"? I don't get that.

E. Noisefield · 11.08.2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions

there's horns on "Radical Adults"

That's right.... the liner notes give horn credits to that, not "Plastic Sun". My mistake. Man, that's two in one thread. I'm the suck today.

But does anyone else hear horns (soft muted trumpets, sounds like) in Sympathy? Or am I just batshit crazy.

SonicBebs · 11.08.2011, 04:40 PM

i think its just sy magic tricking you into thinking their guitars and pedals are horns

i get the horn for Sympahty though, if that helps?

it took me a while to pick out the horns in Radical Adults, i presumed it was guitar skronk

donnie · 11.08.2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SonicBebs

i think its just sy magic tricking you into thinking their guitars and pedals are horns

i get the horn for Sympahty though, if that helps?

it took me a while to pick out the horns in Radical Adults, i presumed it was guitar skronk

I am pretty sure that Lee plays an organ on Sympathy-is that what you are hearing?

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SonicBebs expwy. to yr skull Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,680	i've just watched the live vid on their facebook page, its such an amazing song. Whenever i feel my love for sy wane or drift away i play this song and it fucks me up how good it is sonic yoooooooooooooouuuuthhhhhhhh!!!!!! i've said it before and now i've said it again (fuck me Steve rocks) __________________ https://soundcloud.com/lamstonite http://lamstonite.bandcamp.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/lamstonite
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noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	my favorite track on Murray Street. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	Top ten SY song, easily. Noisereductions- it's my favorite MS track also. Even better than Rain on Tin. Even better than Karen Revisited. Love it.
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noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	"Karenology" is 2nd favorite. I always felt "Strawberry" Should open MS. THen the rest of the album as presented. It's just such an amazig slow builder. It's ... wow. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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11.06.2011, 11:33 PM	#5
E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	But then it would end with "Plastic Sun", which is just not a closer. BTW: Karenology isn't on MS.
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11.07.2011, 10:23 AM	#7
E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	Oh shit, brain fart. YOU'RE RIGHT!!! Karenology = Revisited. Don't know what I was thinking. Mixed up "Ology" with "Koltrane". I must have been having a retard moment. I actually prefer the name "Karenology".
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EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	Ummm if we're talkin' abuot the Karens....err....I prefer Koltrane. Only by a little bit. rain on tin, Sympathy, Karen Revisited.
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noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	see? __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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11.07.2011, 12:30 PM	#10
baby bulldog bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109	Right after 9/11 they played at the Calvin and opened with Sympathy...then it was called Sylvia's Magic Chord....it's probably one the of the best concert moments I've ever had.
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11.07.2011, 07:52 PM	#11
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,174	I always thought this song had too much going on. I would enjoy it so much more without Thurston's guitar (especially during the intro). Still, it's definitely an intriguing tune. Had Lee sang on it, it would be a stand out track for me. Edit: Shared vocals between Lee and Kim would be the shit. I love those.
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the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	it cushions the landing of unexpected harshness from the latter half of Murray St. __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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11.07.2011, 10:26 PM	#13
E. Noisefield the end of the ugly Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: In the hearts of men Posts: 869	I swear.... SWEAR... that I hear horns (that's right- horns) in the intro part of the song, but the only horns on the album are credited to "Plastic Sun" or something.
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11.08.2011, 04:40 PM	#19
SonicBebs expwy. to yr skull Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,680	i think its just sy magic tricking you into thinking their guitars and pedals are horns i get the horn for Sympahty though, if that helps? it took me a while to pick out the horns in Radical Adults, i presumed it was guitar skronk __________________ https://soundcloud.com/lamstonite http://lamstonite.bandcamp.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/lamstonite
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