[knox]

this has nothing to do with losing yourself entirely? don't think anyone was implying that.

out of curiosity tho: did you ever get blackout level drunk? like waking up somewhere you don't know without knowning how you got there with people you've never seen before telling you things you supposedly did?

[knox]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

by losing yourself, i meant that i find more logical to say, yeah i made out with someone of the same sex, because i wanted to at that time, not only because i was drunk.

black outs, unfortunately too many.
but i still believe that i was acting maybe in other levels, as myself.
or that if someone tried to do smth to me that i didnt want to or told me to do smth i didnt want to, i said no.


edit. black outs are indeed tricky things.
what i m saying is that you might say "yes" more easily or in situations where sober you wouldnt. but you will say "no" in things you dont want to do.

there's many things you want at the time because you were drunk, you wouldn't want them so much if you weren't. still, making out with someone of the same sex doesn't say much about your sexual orientation.

much like going home with that cunt of a guy - you think 'why not give it a shot?' because your judgment is impaired and pretty much everything anyone suggests seems like a good idea.

many of my gay friends get all funny when they drink, sometimes sleep with girls and enjoy it, but would never have a relationship with one. complex subject.

i think i know what you're trying to imply, but we can't forget alcohol is a powerful drug. many times i said yes to things i'd say no to. the only way to deal with that is not to get that drunk.

and that is especially true when you talk about alcohol + psychosis + other drugs. i wouldn't normally say yes to putting my life at risk but in those circumstances everything seems different.

ever seen a video or photos of yourself completely drunk? it's hard to recognize yourself, it does look like someone else.

of course i'm talking really hardcore drinking here, which i don't think is your case, because it's just awful.

[knox]

not to mention there are certain drugs capable of getting people so horny they will make out with a chair.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by knox

not to mention there are certain drugs capable of getting people so horny they will make out with a chair.

like this?

[knox]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

like this?

no, with less technique.
you KNOW.

[Lamont Cranston]

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[Derek]

Originally Posted by knox

there's many things you want at the time because you were drunk, you wouldn't want them so much if you weren't. still, making out with someone of the same sex doesn't say much about your sexual orientation.

When I was about 12 or 13 I hung about with kids that were 16 or 17 cause I couldn't stand the immaturity of a lot of people in my age group. The girls that I was friends with at the time made out with each other all the time even though they declared themselves as straight. When I asked them why they said it was for 'fun'.

And now that my female friends now are the same age as those girls were, I realised it probably wasn't normal. The people I talk to now seem a lot more reserved about things like that. It was weird being 13... I certainly got the wrong impression of older girls then. I'm kind of happier that the girls I talk to now are very respectful about themselves.

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Lamont, why don't you tell us what exactly are you doing to rectify the situation and your feelings? Do you think all of these problems in your mind will just go away if you do nothing? Honestly.

[EVOLghost]

Dood lamont. Just forget the fucker. I think you can do much better if you don't pay attention to the "alpha" male.

[Lamont Cranston]

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[floatingslowly]

last night, while at a party at my m8's house, I totally had hot stinky antipodean sex with a cute indie hipster bi political chick and the hot girl I picked up at the SAME party JUST LAST WEEK while the girl I picked up the week BEFORE THAT watched.

after fucking hardcore in the missionary position, she whispered (quite loudly, I'll tell you) about how lucky she was to have such a large penis inside of her and how thankful she was that I had the GIANT testicular fortitude to invite her back to my spider's nest of love (and sports memorabilia).

we laughed about all the other poor losers at the party who surely went home and masturbated furiously at the thought of what we were doing IRL. we laughed....and fucked some more. this time all four of us, licking and sucking each other's throbbing bodies until we orgasmed, at once, four ways.

life's good.

[knox]

Originally Posted by Derek

When I was about 12 or 13 I hung about with kids that were 16 or 17 cause I couldn't stand the immaturity of a lot of people in my age group. The girls that I was friends with at the time made out with each other all the time even though they declared themselves as straight. When I asked them why they said it was for 'fun'.

And now that my female friends now are the same age as those girls were, I realised it probably wasn't normal. The people I talk to now seem a lot more reserved about things like that. It was weird being 13... I certainly got the wrong impression of older girls then. I'm kind of happier that the girls I talk to now are very respectful about themselves.

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Lamont, why don't you tell us what exactly are you doing to rectify the situation and your feelings? Do you think all of these problems in your mind will just go away if you do nothing? Honestly.

people experiment, it's normal.

now making out with other girls because guys will find that sexy or otherwise people will call you repressed, maybe not so normal.

teenagers do a lot of stuff because they're experimenting and finding out about their sexuality.

one of my girl friends has really great sex with a gay man and it doesn't mean he's ever going to not be gay, it just means they are enjoying themselves while they're not in relationships.

[davenotdead]

Originally Posted by knox

one of my girl friends has really great sex with a gay man and it doesn't mean he's ever going to not be gay

he might not ever not be gay, but he will for ever be a genius.

[knox]

Originally Posted by davenotdead

he might not ever not be gay, but he will for ever be a genius.

yes and he's adorable

[Inhuman]

Originally Posted by Lamont Cranston

Well these meets just make me feel worse, and this thread is lame-forget it.

Look, you need to look into WHY they're making you feel worse and work on it so your life isn't a puddle of misery. And if those words hurt to read, then that's my point exactly. You need to stop comparing yourself and seeing yourself as inadequate. You're reaffirming your belief "I'm different than they are" and being miserable about it. Seriously, try Metta meditation and practice it every night, it can probably really help you with reversing that belief.

[ann ashtray]

Usually men that are asses exhibit a lot of self confidence, which is something most women (seemingly...) dig. TALK TO THEM, even if it is scary. Chances are at least some girls will think yr shyness is cute, and appreciate the bravery ya put into making an effort.

I'm some moron with a shitty job and only average as far as being physically attractive is concerned. Never have had any issues finding a girlfriend, but then again I've never let my shortcomings get in the way of the things I want...and neither should you! half the time the chase ends up being the fun part, and even if ya don't get all the girls ya want, so what? Always a learning experience, and it's always fun.

In other words: Girls are nothing to be afraid of + talking to/hanging out with them can be fun (even if it goes no where relationship/sex wise). Chances are, alpha male asshole realized this at some point.

You DO NOT have to be an asshole to find a girlfriend, trust me. Next to no one lives their entire life being single....so worst come to worst, it'll happen eventually anyway so just don't stress + have FUN! Stress means no one wins.

[Derek]

sway's advice is actually pretty good.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by Derek

sway's advice is actually pretty good.

maybe, but it's on page 5 and a rehash of everything that's already been said.

neither lamont nor swannie read anything that anyone else says. that said, neither do I.

you can all fuck yourselves.

[Derek]

But it's easier to read sway's one post rehash than 5 pages of a thread, YA SEE?

[floatingslowly]

I wouldn't know. I never read anything longer than three lines.

[davenotdead]

i only look at avatars and guess at the content of the post