[Severian]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

oh dear. just read that. should turn thread page to see, but this is so true in my case. i think thats the main reason, i have been down past month. because i know, that this is more or less my future and i dont want it.

Absolutely. It gets me down all the time. Some of the people I used to play music with are (despite being in their mid-late 30's and, on the whole, almost completely lacking in education or marketable skills) actually becoming professional musicians. Most, of course, are complete failures and love on food stamps... But a few are paying the bills with their music.

I read about it on Facebook, and want to cry... As I shamble off to work in the morning; a Minutemen shirt under my button down serving as my one remaining punk statement.

Ugh.

[SpaceCadetHayden]

this is my favorite new board member and i keep wondering if nik got by the ip ban

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Pinkunicornnx

Q2: Do you think it's okay for an all-female band to cover Sonic Youth, Dinsaur Jr, Pavement, Pixies or should we cover Justin Beieber and LAdy Gaga?

I can only speak for myself but when I was in an all female band we wrote all our own songs. And when I say we wrote all our own songs I mean we did cover versions but changed the titles.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

loving on food stamps. thanks food stamps and fuck off government CHEESE!! sexting is so much better with yr plasticness.

sorry for being a sell out. cue up "Political Song MJ".

Haha.

I want to go in and edit that, but it's damn funny

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by SpaceCadetHayden

this is my favorite new board member and i keep wondering if nik got by the ip ban

bring back ni'k

[SpaceCadetHayden]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

bring back ni'k

i'm not sure if he has internet right now but he is permanently ip banned stu should undo that please stu

[Pinkunicornnx]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

of course there is always Swag( tally tat tat zigg zigg bugg on the high hat), watered down DubStep, tight pants and chicano style flannel while popping it. express yo self.

Oh god. I hate the word swag with a passion.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

and unless there is some sort of return to communal music listening, a la MTV in it's first decade, or radio, then there is no communal music experience from which to draw influence. This leaves a ton of middling bands with middling audiences, which is why your generation is doomed.

Pssh. I'm seeing loads of people, north and south of 20, out at shows supporting live music, actually communicating with each other then forming meaningful relationships through 'social media'. The underground (as such) isn't a feeder economy for the mainstream any more. The problem, if there is a problem, is that people can't see 'the underground' because it's not conveniently sending emissaries to the mainstream and doesn't have the platform to communicate. But also, that's a fucking good thing because it means that there's loads of strong local scenes. Sort of. There's a massive economic gripe I have and it can be really short-sighted, but there's plenty going on that you're not seeing because you're looking in the wrong place, in the wrong way. It won't happen the way it did when you were 16 so don't expect it to.

I also get a bit pissed off at teenagers going on about passed generations having it better. They might have done, but you weren't there so meh. There's probably a scene nearby. Unless you live in a rural backwater, in which case I apologise. But generally, there's stuff in most large-ish cities, as far as I can see. Go, find. Or go, make a scene.

[Glice]

I should add: listening to miserable, jaded, cynical old cunts like me is only ever going to prematurely age you.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

i don't know about this other crud^^^^, but i was just thinking about this right this second.

everything and everthing lacks adrenaline now and not that's the all and be-all to youthfull expression, but either the young'uns lack it or don't really know how to express it in a compact way without copying past generations and coming off as "Corporate". hehe. ugh!!! that's what i miss the most now is.. "adrenaline" in music and not so much anger which leads to adrenaline and which is in itself an umbrella term for many emotions which trigger it. so, the older i get...the more i need "it".

i blame the nets and early exposure to porn. by 13, you guys are all burned out and dryed up and shit. there, i said it.

I too miss the RAWK. All the new music I hear sounds so pussy soft, I blame Air Supply, I mean Arcade Fire... ha!

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

All the new music

Aren't you a fan of Codeine though, Rob?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cscHL...=results_video

[Pinkunicornnx]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I too miss the RAWK. All the new music I hear sounds so pussy soft, I blame Air Supply, I mean Arcade Fire... ha!

Arcade Fire is a good band...

[Rob Instigator]

Good does not necessarily equal RAWK

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Aren't you a fan of Codeine though, Rob?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cscHLdROpMg&playnext=1&list=PLF67DF511F1E7 7D27&feature=results_video

when I first went into the record store and put Codeine Frigid Stars LP on the listening station I thought the shit rocked so hard, so awesome, then I got it home, put it on the stereo, and my room-mates at the time said, "Jesus what a fucking depressing record!"

ha! RAWK must be in the eye of the beholder.

[evollove]

Things were more fun in the underground 80s than now.

This is so obvious, I won't even bother to back up this statement.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by evollove

Things were more fun in the underground 80s than now.

This is so obvious, I won't even bother to back up this statement.

For a start, you almost never came across people saying the 50s were better. Almost never. They didn't even have an internet in the 80s. What a bunch of losers!

Edit: ok, they had some internets but it only came on at 9pm, in black and white, and was mostly just a picture of YOUR MUM being racist.

[Rob Instigator]

sure you did Glice, what you think Happy Days was about? Ayyyyyyy

[Glice]

Gnostic propaganda - The Fonz was mercury Christ, Richie Cunningham was archon saklas - it all makes sense when you think about it.

[Rob Instigator]

the gnosis is deep in this one...