Little Dwayne

louder · 12.28.2011, 03:38 AM

in 2008 Dwayne Michael Carter AKA Lil Wayne AKA Weezy F. Baby, after a series of criticially acclaimed mixtapes, dropped a sick album called "Tha Carter 3", where he claimed to be the best rapper alive. many people actually believed him.. including the president of the U.S. Barrack Obama himself. "You are probably not that good a rapper. Maybe you are the next Lil Wayne, but probably not, in which case you need to stay in school."

in 2009 dude went to jail. he has never returned since then. as you can see in the pics, he was a hard guy. we miss you man.

one day, some guy called Tunechi tried to pick up a guitar and released a shitty album. nobody gave a fuck. then this year he tried to go back to the traditional style of punchline rap with an album called Tha Carter 4, that actually has nothing to do with that Wayne we knew before.. and yet again failed miserably.

^WHO THE FUCK IS THIS "GUY"?

so my question is, do you think that in 2012 we will finally get the old Wayne we love back? or is he already gone for eternity?

keep poppin pimples · 12.28.2011, 06:27 AM

he never had more than one good track in a hundred and he did ''blunt blowin''pretty recently so it might be awhile for another decent tune

louder · 12.28.2011, 06:37 AM

^that's laughable. so are we gonna pretend that he doesn't have two classic mixtapes (Dedication 2 & Da Drought 3) and a classic album (Carter 2)? that whole era from '04-'07.. pretty much everything that was leading up to C3, including the Empire leaks were pretty damn great.

louder · 12.28.2011, 09:49 AM

yeah, that album was like the worst shit anyone has ever heard at the time.. and the funny thing is that his later stuff actually made it sound mediocre.

louder · 12.28.2011, 10:16 AM

he made his serious breakthrough around the time Em was on drugs and couldn't even speak, while Jay suppposedly "retired" then came back with a shitty album (Kingdom Come). it took him a while to fully develop until he reached his peak commercially with C3 which was basically a compilation of radio hits & club bangers.

louder · 12.28.2011, 10:21 AM

much like Eminem, his current fanbase is mostly consisted of teenybopper girls.

Derek · 12.28.2011, 10:24 AM

Tha Carter 4 was great though. Just what I wanted from him.

louder · 12.28.2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek

Tha Carter 4 was great though. Just what I wanted from him.

really? most beats sounded like they belong to a shitty mixtape, not a double-platinum Grammy nominated album. Wayne himself sounded bored, each song had the same corny punchlines, lazy monotone flow.

louder · 12.28.2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

HAHa, not just teenyboppers, but grown ass woman.

the bitches really love him for some reason.

louder · 12.28.2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

He is what he is , but he is interesting for some reason. maybe because i'm from the south and i grew up with a lot of guys that act just like him. i have a hard believing a lot of shit he says.

but you know.. at least he used to say SOMETHING.
nowadays the only shit you'd hear from him is "when it waynes it pours", "met a female dragon, had a fire conversation", "skeet skeet skeet water gun", etc.
i mean, are you serious Wayne?
if only '07 Wayne knew what he'd become, he'd puke.

louder · 12.28.2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

no doubt dude. i've heard more Eminem ringtones than Wayne though, but i've got more slutty lap dances just by playing Wayne and i'm just a geeky indie rock nerd. so i'll thank him for that.

i find it odd that Kanye is generally more talented, makes better music, no homo but is probably much better looking.. yet girls are down with Weezy and not Ye.

louder · 12.28.2011, 11:21 AM

hah, i guess so.. he is covered in tattoos, looks like a thug, raps about sex a lot, as well as drugs.. and atm even tries to skate and acts like a white bitch. i guess that's enough to impress them other bitches these days.

noisereductions · 12.28.2011, 11:43 AM

at least one dude gave an F about the shitty rock album

anyway. I don't know that he'll ever sound like he did in 2007/2008 again. That was a different time. He was crazy hungry y'know? He had a lot to prove.

I think Carter IV sounds like he's TRYING to go back a bit, but it's different now. He's a big star. Yr little sister knows him. Maybe yr mom does. He also birthed Drake and Nikki. It's just a different climate and he's a different dude.

I still like him for what he is. I dn't really expect him to "go back " becuz moving backwards doesn't really make sense. I know everyone hated REBIRTH but I didn't because it was something DIFFERENT. I'd rather see an artist continually influx .... meaning, if an artist is always trying new things, some will be great and some shit, but it's all an interesting experiment to me. An artist that just plays it safe MIGHT always be great, but that's less interesting to me (see: Drake).

louder · 12.28.2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

I don't like Drake at all. The epitome of mainstream rap circa 2011. Yes, i've heard his shit. Cliche top 40 rap.

not saying anyone here does, but it's shit.

his singles are indeed what you're talking about, cuz that's the kind of shit that the label always forces him to put out.. but his albums are pretty solid imo.

Noiseredux, i like your posts cuz you always seem to have such different views on everything than the norm. hah.
for me Weezy's last few albums were trash, but i can totally see what you mean when you say that he's got nothing left to prove anymore, so he's just fucking around.. i really wish someone big will finally make a diss record on him, just call him out already.. everyone knows Wayne fell off, but they're all such pussies for not daring to mention it publicly.

noisereductions · 12.28.2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by louder

Noiseredux, i like your posts cuz you always seem to have such different views on everything than the norm. hah.
for me Weezy's last few albums were trash, but i can totally see what you mean when you say that he's got nothing left to prove anymore, so he's just fucking around.. i really wish someone big will finally make a diss record on him, just call him out already.. everyone knows Wayne fell off, but they're all such pussies for not daring to mention it publicly.

thx dude. I don't expect anyone to agree w me, but it's cool that you respect my view.

I think for anyone to challenge Wayne (which would be a GOOD thing btw) it would need to be someone huge. Y'know? someone at the top of their game, and who Weezy would respect enough to feel the need to come back at them.

Competition is good btw. The Jay-Z vs Nas beef is probably one of the most interesting song cycles of hip hop in the last decade.

louder · 12.28.2011, 12:49 PM

woah, nice call with the Jay-Nas beef! i'm much more of a Hov fan than Nas, but i gotta admit that Ether joint was fucking NASTY.. still cracks me up whenever i renember about it.

noisereductions · 12.28.2011, 12:51 PM

I'm a much bigger Jay-Z fan too, but the beef brought out the best in Nas. "Ether" was absolutely amazing. And really, so was STILLMATIC in general. There's a really good kevin nottingham mixtape that chronicles the entire beef. YOu should hunt it down. It's totally headspinning to hear all those tracks back to back and you realize this was more than anything just two mc's pushing each other to just be the best.

louder · 12.28.2011, 12:54 PM

btw, the dopest beef going on atm is between Rick Ross & Young Jeezy.
both make the best records atm, in fact Ross is on par with Ye & Jay as far as artistry goes in my book..
dude easily gets the most improved of the last 3 yrs card.. while Jeezy just dropped TM103 which i consider to be the best rap album of the year, hands down. the last track "This One's for You" is actually meant to be for Rozay.

noisereductions · 12.28.2011, 01:06 PM

yeah Ross has really come around man. He does impress me. I have heard TM103 yet,but Jeezy is definitely a very talented dude. But I don't know. A beef between the two of them. I don't know if I'd even care.

Maybe Ross should start a beef w Weezy though.

louder · 12.28.2011, 01:27 PM

Ross kinda started as a Jeezy ripoff, Jeezy himself was even featured on his first two albums lol.
but now he has his own thing going..
he's been killing every feature, those verses on Kanye's and Drake's albums were INSANE.
i think 2012 is going to be his year.. i expect his next album to be his Blueprint.

12.28.2011, 03:38 AM	#1
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	in 2008 Dwayne Michael Carter AKA Lil Wayne AKA Weezy F. Baby, after a series of criticially acclaimed mixtapes, dropped a sick album called "Tha Carter 3", where he claimed to be the best rapper alive. many people actually believed him.. including the president of the U.S. Barrack Obama himself. "You are probably not that good a rapper. Maybe you are the next Lil Wayne, but probably not, in which case you need to stay in school." in 2009 dude went to jail. he has never returned since then. as you can see in the pics, he was a hard guy. we miss you man. one day, some guy called Tunechi tried to pick up a guitar and released a shitty album. nobody gave a fuck. then this year he tried to go back to the traditional style of punchline rap with an album called Tha Carter 4, that actually has nothing to do with that Wayne we knew before.. and yet again failed miserably. ^WHO THE FUCK IS THIS "GUY"? so my question is, do you think that in 2012 we will finally get the old Wayne we love back? or is he already gone for eternity?
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12.28.2011, 06:27 AM	#2
keep poppin pimples expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: www.masonhq.com Posts: 1,204	he never had more than one good track in a hundred and he did ''blunt blowin''pretty recently so it might be awhile for another decent tune
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12.28.2011, 06:37 AM	#3
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	^that's laughable. so are we gonna pretend that he doesn't have two classic mixtapes (Dedication 2 & Da Drought 3) and a classic album (Carter 2)? that whole era from '04-'07.. pretty much everything that was leading up to C3, including the Empire leaks were pretty damn great.
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12.28.2011, 09:49 AM	#4
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	yeah, that album was like the worst shit anyone has ever heard at the time.. and the funny thing is that his later stuff actually made it sound mediocre.
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12.28.2011, 10:16 AM	#5
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	he made his serious breakthrough around the time Em was on drugs and couldn't even speak, while Jay suppposedly "retired" then came back with a shitty album (Kingdom Come). it took him a while to fully develop until he reached his peak commercially with C3 which was basically a compilation of radio hits & club bangers.
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12.28.2011, 10:21 AM	#6
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	much like Eminem, his current fanbase is mostly consisted of teenybopper girls.
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12.28.2011, 10:24 AM	#7
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Tha Carter 4 was great though. Just what I wanted from him.
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12.28.2011, 11:21 AM	#12
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	hah, i guess so.. he is covered in tattoos, looks like a thug, raps about sex a lot, as well as drugs.. and atm even tries to skate and acts like a white bitch. i guess that's enough to impress them other bitches these days.
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12.28.2011, 11:43 AM	#13
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	at least one dude gave an F about the shitty rock album anyway. I don't know that he'll ever sound like he did in 2007/2008 again. That was a different time. He was crazy hungry y'know? He had a lot to prove. I think Carter IV sounds like he's TRYING to go back a bit, but it's different now. He's a big star. Yr little sister knows him. Maybe yr mom does. He also birthed Drake and Nikki. It's just a different climate and he's a different dude. I still like him for what he is. I dn't really expect him to "go back " becuz moving backwards doesn't really make sense. I know everyone hated REBIRTH but I didn't because it was something DIFFERENT. I'd rather see an artist continually influx .... meaning, if an artist is always trying new things, some will be great and some shit, but it's all an interesting experiment to me. An artist that just plays it safe MIGHT always be great, but that's less interesting to me (see: Drake). __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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12.28.2011, 12:49 PM	#16
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	woah, nice call with the Jay-Nas beef! i'm much more of a Hov fan than Nas, but i gotta admit that Ether joint was fucking NASTY.. still cracks me up whenever i renember about it.
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12.28.2011, 12:51 PM	#17
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	I'm a much bigger Jay-Z fan too, but the beef brought out the best in Nas. "Ether" was absolutely amazing. And really, so was STILLMATIC in general. There's a really good kevin nottingham mixtape that chronicles the entire beef. YOu should hunt it down. It's totally headspinning to hear all those tracks back to back and you realize this was more than anything just two mc's pushing each other to just be the best. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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12.28.2011, 12:54 PM	#18
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	btw, the dopest beef going on atm is between Rick Ross & Young Jeezy. both make the best records atm, in fact Ross is on par with Ye & Jay as far as artistry goes in my book.. dude easily gets the most improved of the last 3 yrs card.. while Jeezy just dropped TM103 which i consider to be the best rap album of the year, hands down. the last track "This One's for You" is actually meant to be for Rozay.
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12.28.2011, 01:06 PM	#19
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	yeah Ross has really come around man. He does impress me. I have heard TM103 yet,but Jeezy is definitely a very talented dude. But I don't know. A beef between the two of them. I don't know if I'd even care. Maybe Ross should start a beef w Weezy though. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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12.28.2011, 01:27 PM	#20
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	Ross kinda started as a Jeezy ripoff, Jeezy himself was even featured on his first two albums lol. but now he has his own thing going.. he's been killing every feature, those verses on Kanye's and Drake's albums were INSANE. i think 2012 is going to be his year.. i expect his next album to be his Blueprint.
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