[lechaoscestmoi]

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[max]

sadus - a vision of misery
coroner - grin
kreator - cause for a conflict
sepultura - arise
megadeth - countdown to extinction

[Derek]

megadeth - peace sells
metallica - master of puppets
slayer - seasons in the abyss
tankard - the morning after
kreator - coma of souls

[batreleaser]

good one:

1. Metallica-Kill em All
2. Slayer-Reign in Blood
3. Metallica-Master of Puppets
4. Slayer-Haunting the Chapel EP
5. Celtic Frost-De Mysteriees Dom Santhanas
6. Voivod-Killing Technology

Yknow what I realized? If there is any contemporary music I HATE today is stupid lame party thrash and overly technical and formulaic grindcore, im talking bands like municipal waste and cephalic carnage and shit like that. also, i realized i hate all metalcore, whether it be integrity or converge, or even the artier stuff like botch. why you ask? because it takes the punk out of hardcore and the fun and/or meaning out of music. thing is, i liked this music, or i thought i did, untill 6 months ago. since then ive made a point of selling off all this shit.

fact of the matter is, hardcore, grindcore, thrash metal, death metal, and grindcore were all once in a lifetime movements of unbelievable creativity and innovation that can not be created. punk rock has survived because it splintered off and became more experimental, but then the bands that just copied hardcore did it more lame and unoriginal. like, as hard as pig destroyer tries to make thier "scum". it just wont happen. thrash peaked with "reign in blood". real hardcore as far as we care died shit in the us in 86, and prolly worldwide around 89. the whole point of grindcore was to make this ultra lo fi agressive hardcore music that was still oddly technical and progressive, but now all these bands just try and throw in as many blast beats into a song as possible.

the only genre of metal that still seems to be doing ok is black metal, as the old bands like gorgoroth have no problem totally sticking to thier already perfected, and new bands have no problem playing around with experimental sounds, and pyha's "haunted house" is twistedly brilliant. looks like for now, extreme music will be mostly noise and no wave. not that i have a problem with that, id rather listen to cock esp than (insert goofy grindcore name here) for however long the screeeching noise makes me go deaf.

[Dead-Air]

1. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
2. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
3. Sepultura - Roots
4. Accept - Restless & Wild
5. Voivod - Nothingface

[uhler]

[quote=batreleaser]
Yknow what I realized? If there is any contemporary music I HATE today is stupid lame party thrash and overly technical and formulaic grindcore, im talking bands like municipal waste and cephalic carnage and shit like that. also, i realized i hate all metalcore, whether it be integrity or converge, or even the artier stuff like botch. why you ask? because it takes the punk out of hardcore and the fun and/or meaning out of music. thing is, i liked this music, or i thought i did, untill 6 months ago. since then ive made a point of selling off all this shit.
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i agree. but i came to realize how much metalcore sucked 6 years ago. i've always hated all that dumb thrash shit that only crust punks or 15 year old kids like. the only 90's hardcore records i have left are "firestorm" (cause it's cheesy as hell) and reversal of man's "revolution summer". i still have a few cds from that era. i talk to friends about those times as great and fun times, because they were, but i try to listen to the music now and i can only get through one song, if that.

hardcore died in america around 1983 and then got woken up for a little bit around 88 and then died again.

hardcore and metalcore in the mid to late 90's was fun for 17 year old straight edge kids who liked to mosh and wear new balances and hoodies. that basically described me.

back to the question. i don't really like much thrash, so i'll just say old metallica and slayer.

[luckynumber9]

I don't listen to much thrash either, but from what I've heard:

Metallica - Master of Puppets
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains

[max]

in my opinion threash peaked with SADUS, who developed death in a way. SWALLOWED IN BLACK is a turning point in structures and lyrics.

[vulva]

For once a thread I can participate in! Thrash/speed metal is MY main root for music. For awhile, it was all together my favourite genre.



1. Kreator - Coma Of Souls
2. Megadeth - So Far... So Good... So What!
3. Sodom - Tapping The Vein
4. Coroner - RIP
5. Destruction - The Antichrist
6. Possessed - Seven Churches
7. Mortal Sin - Face Of Despair
8. Voivod - War & Pain
9. Slaughter - Strappado
10. Torture Squad - Pandemonium

[lechaoscestmoi]

Originally Posted by batreleaser

5. Celtic Frost-De Mysteriees Dom Santhanas

ain't that a mayhem album?

[batreleaser]

[quote=uhler]

Originally Posted by batreleaser

Yknow what I realized? If there is any contemporary music I HATE today is stupid lame party thrash and overly technical and formulaic grindcore, im talking bands like municipal waste and cephalic carnage and shit like that. also, i realized i hate all metalcore, whether it be integrity or converge, or even the artier stuff like botch. why you ask? because it takes the punk out of hardcore and the fun and/or meaning out of music. thing is, i liked this music, or i thought i did, untill 6 months ago. since then ive made a point of selling off all this shit.
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i agree. but i came to realize how much metalcore sucked 6 years ago. i've always hated all that dumb thrash shit that only crust punks or 15 year old kids like. the only 90's hardcore records i have left are "firestorm" (cause it's cheesy as hell) and reversal of man's "revolution summer". i still have a few cds from that era. i talk to friends about those times as great and fun times, because they were, but i try to listen to the music now and i can only get through one song, if that.

hardcore died in america around 1983 and then got woken up for a little bit around 88 and then died again.

hardcore and metalcore in the mid to late 90's was fun for 17 year old straight edge kids who liked to mosh and wear new balances and hoodies. that basically described me.

back to the question. i don't really like much thrash, so i'll just say old metallica and slayer.

metalcore is terrible, just the sound of it yknow its gonna be pure macho sleaze bullshit. these bands think they can throw in as many chug riffs and blast beats in a song as possible and get artistic cred, fuck that. these dudes just dont get it, you know?

[lechaoscestmoi]

yeah, i can't stand that music. even stuff like converge which i used to kinda like, simply don't do a thing for me anymore.

[Derek]

Converge are actually the only metalcore band I like.

[lechaoscestmoi]

jane doe is pretty much superior to any other album in that genre.

[uhler]

[quote=batreleaser]

Originally Posted by uhler

metalcore is terrible, just the sound of it yknow its gonna be pure macho sleaze bullshit. these bands think they can throw in as many chug riffs and blast beats in a song as possible and get artistic cred, fuck that. these dudes just dont get it, you know?

or you get the really macho meathead bands that only care about the breakdown. i remember when i was younger i would always wait for the breakdown and until it came i was like, "this song sucks." then the breakdown came and i was all about it.

[uhler]

Originally Posted by lechaoscestmoi

jane doe is pretty much superior to any other album in that genre.

i think they peaked with "petitioning the empty sky". with "jane doe" i thought they threw too much shit in one blender just to see how it would sound when it came out.

[blunderbuss]

Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Anthrax - Among The Living
Stormtroopers Of Death - Speak English Or Die
Various (Stupids / Electro Hippies / Extreme Noise Terror / Bolt Thrower / Intense Degree / Unseen Terror / Napalm Death / Doctor and the Crippens / Doom) - Hardcore Holocaust (87-88 Peel Sessions)

[el duderino]

Thrash ended when Dave Mustaine turned Christian.

[max]

here's your sorry pathetic ass showing up for more displays of ignorance. mustaine knew his shit, but there's always been a shitload of bands that brought thrash forward.
you just lose, dude.

[gmku]

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