Ludwig-less Diamond Sea

mooger_fooger · 08.15.2006, 10:33 AM

I dont think thurston had his ludwig phaser with him for diamond sea.
- holy-reberb!!

this came up in the Toronto show thread, thought I'd pose the question, on recent (Nurse and this tour if it's being played) is Thurston using his MXR Phase90 for Diamond Sea?
When they played it on the Nurse tour I didn't see any equipment that Chris Lawrence dosn't have listed...so I'm ASSUMING it was the MXR responsible for the infamous 'yayayayayaya'.....???

scott v · 08.15.2006, 01:49 PM

When was the Diamond Sea played during the Nurse Tour???

last time they played that was 1996... perhaps they've tried soundchecking with it...

Ludwig phaser is abit different and unique than an mxr phase 90 because i believe it can also mix other effects to mimick a flanger which is different than a straight phaser...

i don't even know if they own a ludwig phasetron anymore, both of band's were stolen in the great theft of 1999.

mooger_fooger · 08.15.2006, 01:55 PM

There's been some arguement about this Me and my roomate went to the Toronto show, both us and our bass player, remember seeign Diamond Sea...according to CLawrence, and a few others on here, we're wrong. Now I could accept that __I___ was having memory troubles (i smoke pot, it happens

) but I find it hard to belive we ALL had a Diamond Sea 'trip-that-never-happened' ESPECIALLY when our bass player has a good memory for trivial details (not that sweeing Diamond Sea live is trivial or anything)

scott v · 08.15.2006, 02:03 PM

Don't know what to say... i wasn't there... though i don't even think that thurston had a guitar in the tuning of EGDGED (for Diamond Sea) on the Nurse Tour.

may have to ask the band directly if they did indeed play the song.

mooger_fooger · 08.15.2006, 02:17 PM

I hadn't condsidered that route...I mean, I'm not a terribly proud person, so it's not a matter of personal pride no gloating rights (eg 'haha I saw DS live and you havm't) it's just a matter of trying to prove I'm not insane...that this did in fact happen...I don't know, I just can't see wasting the bands time with such a petty question, but IF they did in fact play it, Thurston was DEFINITLY using his Phase 90 (speed was turned down after playing Dude Ranch Nurse to 'Ludwig' it up a bit..)

Lipslikewindows · 08.15.2006, 02:22 PM

ECgGCF = new tuning I've been having a lot of fun with lately.

krastian · 08.15.2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mooger_fooger

There's been some arguement about this Me and my roomate went to the Toronto show, both us and our bass player, remember seeign Diamond Sea.

Chris Lawrence · 08.16.2006, 12:23 AM

i remember them talking about playing it again, but they haven't. i used to think it was an outlandish idea to dedicate that much time of the set to an 'old' song, but w/ the 15+ minute expressways etc they've been doing, i think a 2nd encore 'diamond sea' could work for sure.

fluxequalsrad · 08.16.2006, 12:01 PM

theres no way in shit that they played diamond sea in toronto on nurse tour. I was there. After dude ranch i think they played Drunken butterfly...

lemme check...

here's setlist!:::
I Love You Golden Blue
100%
Pattern Recognition
Unmade Bed
Skip Tracer
Mariah Carey
Stones
New Hampshire
Paper Cup Exit
Silver Rocket
Dude Ranch Nurse
Drunken Butterfly
--
Disconnection Notice
Sugar Kane
--
Expressway

holy-reverb!! · 08.16.2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v

When was the Diamond Sea played during the Nurse Tour???

last time they played that was 1996... perhaps they've tried soundchecking with it...

Ludwig phaser is abit different and unique than an mxr phase 90 because i believe it can also mix other effects to mimick a flanger which is different than a straight phaser...

i don't even know if they own a ludwig phasetron anymore, both of band's were stolen in the great theft of 1999.

were they? I dont see them on the list.

mooger_fooger · 08.16.2006, 02:32 PM

Hmmm....this is beginning to become a hotly debated subject, both on here and at home, as I have began to accept the fact that maybe I'm crazy...but my bandmates are insisting I'm not, that we did in fact hear diamond sea...I'm not even sure which side of the arguement I'm on anymore, b/c I recall losing my voice after chanting "diamond sea, diamond sea.." and then erupting into a massive scream upon the opening notes....So.....we'll just drop the subject and assume I'm crazy...however.....there's still a Shadow Of a Doubt in my mind...

atari 2600 · 08.16.2006, 02:37 PM

lay off the mota???

top 40 squeeze · 08.16.2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooger_fooger

Hmmm....this is beginning to become a hotly debated subject, both on here and at home, as I have began to accept the fact that maybe I'm crazy...but my bandmates are insisting I'm not, that we did in fact hear diamond sea...I'm not even sure which side of the arguement I'm on anymore, b/c I recall losing my voice after chanting "diamond sea, diamond sea.." and then erupting into a massive scream upon the opening notes....So.....we'll just drop the subject and assume I'm crazy...however.....there's still a Shadow Of a Doubt in my mind...

Maybe at the time you just confused Diamond Sea and Expressway... they're kinda similar, a little, maybe... or something

mooger_fooger · 08.16.2006, 02:58 PM

Well....I was about to buy into my craziness when an email bolstered my hopes, my friend states 'Rich, I hoisted you up to crowd surf during the noise jam, trust me, you're not going crazy'....the debate continues...

fluxequalsrad · 08.16.2006, 08:25 PM

Expressway has a noise jam....so does alot of SY songs.

mooger_fooger · 08.17.2006, 09:34 AM

Sadly I've come to accept that no-one here was actually at the show in question, or if they were did not sit out the encore(s)...as they DID in fact play Diamond Sea that evening (and no, not RIGHT after Dude Ranch, I was just referencing to the use of the Phase 90)

max · 08.17.2006, 09:56 AM

I think Steve could save us all. Mr. Shelley let us know!

mooger_fooger · 08.17.2006, 10:03 AM

Steve could save us all...with his glorious tom rolls

holy-reverb!! · 08.17.2006, 11:56 AM

someone should post this question in the question thread.

doctor dan · 08.17.2006, 12:06 PM

i thaught that they dont use the ludwig anymore because it was a casualty of the tragic gig theft? i read or heard somewhere it was one of the casualties. Itd be quality if they started playing diamond sea again tho. itd be a shame if it was stolen- that thing was really fucking rare, its worth a few grand...

08.15.2006, 10:33 AM	#1
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	I dont think thurston had his ludwig phaser with him for diamond sea. - holy-reberb!! this came up in the Toronto show thread, thought I'd pose the question, on recent (Nurse and this tour if it's being played) is Thurston using his MXR Phase90 for Diamond Sea? When they played it on the Nurse tour I didn't see any equipment that Chris Lawrence dosn't have listed...so I'm ASSUMING it was the MXR responsible for the infamous 'yayayayayaya'.....???
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08.15.2006, 01:49 PM	#2
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	When was the Diamond Sea played during the Nurse Tour??? last time they played that was 1996... perhaps they've tried soundchecking with it... Ludwig phaser is abit different and unique than an mxr phase 90 because i believe it can also mix other effects to mimick a flanger which is different than a straight phaser... i don't even know if they own a ludwig phasetron anymore, both of band's were stolen in the great theft of 1999.
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08.15.2006, 01:55 PM	#3
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	There's been some arguement about this Me and my roomate went to the Toronto show, both us and our bass player, remember seeign Diamond Sea...according to CLawrence, and a few others on here, we're wrong. Now I could accept that __I___ was having memory troubles (i smoke pot, it happens ) but I find it hard to belive we ALL had a Diamond Sea 'trip-that-never-happened' ESPECIALLY when our bass player has a good memory for trivial details (not that sweeing Diamond Sea live is trivial or anything)
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08.15.2006, 02:03 PM	#4
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	Don't know what to say... i wasn't there... though i don't even think that thurston had a guitar in the tuning of EGDGED (for Diamond Sea) on the Nurse Tour. may have to ask the band directly if they did indeed play the song.
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08.15.2006, 02:17 PM	#5
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	I hadn't condsidered that route...I mean, I'm not a terribly proud person, so it's not a matter of personal pride no gloating rights (eg 'haha I saw DS live and you havm't) it's just a matter of trying to prove I'm not insane...that this did in fact happen...I don't know, I just can't see wasting the bands time with such a petty question, but IF they did in fact play it, Thurston was DEFINITLY using his Phase 90 (speed was turned down after playing Dude Ranch Nurse to 'Ludwig' it up a bit..)
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08.15.2006, 02:22 PM	#6
Lipslikewindows bad moon rising Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 163	ECgGCF = new tuning I've been having a lot of fun with lately. __________________ www.themuggabears.com
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08.16.2006, 12:23 AM	#8
Chris Lawrence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: southwest canada Posts: 1,890	i remember them talking about playing it again, but they haven't. i used to think it was an outlandish idea to dedicate that much time of the set to an 'old' song, but w/ the 15+ minute expressways etc they've been doing, i think a 2nd encore 'diamond sea' could work for sure. __________________ http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang // original folk blues ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .i'm the boy that can enjoy invisibility. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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08.16.2006, 12:01 PM	#9
fluxequalsrad stalker Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 442	theres no way in shit that they played diamond sea in toronto on nurse tour. I was there. After dude ranch i think they played Drunken butterfly... lemme check... here's setlist!::: I Love You Golden Blue 100% Pattern Recognition Unmade Bed Skip Tracer Mariah Carey Stones New Hampshire Paper Cup Exit Silver Rocket Dude Ranch Nurse Drunken Butterfly -- Disconnection Notice Sugar Kane -- Expressway
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08.16.2006, 02:32 PM	#11
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	Hmmm....this is beginning to become a hotly debated subject, both on here and at home, as I have began to accept the fact that maybe I'm crazy...but my bandmates are insisting I'm not, that we did in fact hear diamond sea...I'm not even sure which side of the arguement I'm on anymore, b/c I recall losing my voice after chanting "diamond sea, diamond sea.." and then erupting into a massive scream upon the opening notes....So.....we'll just drop the subject and assume I'm crazy...however.....there's still a Shadow Of a Doubt in my mind...
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08.16.2006, 02:37 PM	#12
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	lay off the mota???
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08.16.2006, 02:58 PM	#14
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	Well....I was about to buy into my craziness when an email bolstered my hopes, my friend states 'Rich, I hoisted you up to crowd surf during the noise jam, trust me, you're not going crazy'....the debate continues...
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08.16.2006, 08:25 PM	#15
fluxequalsrad stalker Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 442	Expressway has a noise jam....so does alot of SY songs.
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08.17.2006, 09:34 AM	#16
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	Sadly I've come to accept that no-one here was actually at the show in question, or if they were did not sit out the encore(s)...as they DID in fact play Diamond Sea that evening (and no, not RIGHT after Dude Ranch, I was just referencing to the use of the Phase 90)
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08.17.2006, 09:56 AM	#17
max expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: sardinia, italy Posts: 1,262	I think Steve could save us all. Mr. Shelley let us know! __________________ A Dance Of Shadows - Kingdom Of Night
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08.17.2006, 10:03 AM	#18
mooger_fooger bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 111	Steve could save us all...with his glorious tom rolls
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08.17.2006, 11:56 AM	#19
holy-reverb!! children of satan Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: toronto Posts: 270	someone should post this question in the question thread. __________________
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08.17.2006, 12:06 PM	#20
doctor dan bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: bath spa, uk/ nottingham, uk Posts: 157	i thaught that they dont use the ludwig anymore because it was a casualty of the tragic gig theft? i read or heard somewhere it was one of the casualties. Itd be quality if they started playing diamond sea again tho. itd be a shame if it was stolen- that thing was really fucking rare, its worth a few grand... __________________ IT FIT WHEN I WAS A KID
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