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Old 10.30.2009, 09:01 AM   #1
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Fugees
The Score
1996, Ruffhouse

There's a lot of talk about the Golden Age of hip hop, though the definition of the era is loose (it's generally agreed to span sometime in the 80's to sometime in the 90's). In my view of the musical landscape, THE SCORE which was released in early 1996 pretty much signaled the end of the era. It was a record that garnered so much buzz (from both Under- and Over-ground) that it seemed a Creation that resulted in Destruction. To put the release date of this album into context, within the next 13 months both 2Pac and Biggie would be dead. And the Fugees would have imploded.

The buzz that led up to the release of THE SCORE was hard to explain. A lot of underground hip hop fans knew their first album, BLUNTED ON REALITY. But the record had failed to really gain a large audience. And critics pretty much hated it. But before the record was released, it seemed everyone was into the Fugees. And when the final product hit the shelves, it was instantly undertandable. This album was full of intellegent wordplay, catchy choruses, interesting samples (Enya!), live instruments, ballads, posse cuts, ridiculous skits, and pretty much everything else you could fit into one rap tape. It was an epic work that appealed to music geeks and thugs alike. As Lauryn Hill summed up in "Zealots," "...and even after all my logic and my theory / I'll add a motherfucka so you ignant n___'s hear me."

After it's release there would be rumors of Lauryn Hill being shot in the face. Beefs both real and maybe not real between Jeru The Damaja (who now?) and Wu-Tang Clan. And lots of other drama which would lead to splintered trio we now know. Wyclef, though a great songwriter has made a ton of messes called albums. Lauryn went crazy. And Praz. Well he made that song for the movie Bullworth. It was obvious in 1996 that the group was greater than the sum of its parts. And even more obvious now. Sigh.
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Dom, the amount of quote-worthy lines on that album is insane.
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It's a bit unfair to say Lauren went crazy. Mis-education is not the same sort of thing as the Score, but it's definitely up there. The Score is one of those records, it's always comforting to see that someone has that record in their house. Just a nice re-assurance that someone has got one of the crucial albums of the 90s.
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It's a bit unfair to say Lauren went crazy.

in summing up their post-SCORE work, I was completely condensing things. I mean MISEDUCATION is a good album. And her UNPLUGGED was interesting at least. I should have put "went crazy" in quotes, cuz I was more focusing on how that's how people have seen her detachmnet from the limelight.
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fuck that record.
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Sure, granted. It's a real shame though, I think Lauren did one-and-a-half brilliant albums after the Score and Wycliffe has done some brilliant singles but... well, it's a shame. Then again, it's the law of hip-hop - at best, 2 great albums. I can't think of many in hip-hop who've done 4 great albums (MF Doom or someone excepted).

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It's a bit unfair to say Lauren went crazy. Mis-education is not the same sort of thing as the Score, but it's definitely up there. The Score is one of those records, it's always comforting to see that someone has that record in their house. Just a nice re-assurance that someone has got one of the crucial albums of the 90s.

really? i think it's kind of the hiphop version of the best of bob marley
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really? i think it's kind of the hiphop version of the best of bob marley

That's also true. Depends on the crowds you roll with I suppose.
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god damn that was a good time to be alive.. (95-99)

you had the Tribe Called Quest.. you had a slick rick come back.. you had Dr Octagon evolving into Dr Dooom.. The Outkast went Aquemini you had the Bob Digi going Prince Rakeim.. you had Snoop go party on No Limit.. you had Bone Thugz on the radio.. e-40 just dropped the Charlie Hustle.. good fucking times..
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hell, in hip hop 2 great albums is rare. 4 is nigh impossible.

Public Enemy had three

It takes A Nation of Millions
Fear of a Black Planet
Apocalypse 91...the enemy strikes black



De La Soul

3 feet high and rising
De La Soul Is Dead
Buhloon Mindstate
Stakes Is High


Tribe Called Quest

People's Instinctive Travels
Low End Theory
Midnight Marauders


RUN DMC

Run DMC
Tougher Than Leather
King Of Rock
Raising Hell


the question is, is it harder to maintain a level of quality and "relevance" in hip hop than it is in rock or pop? Is "relevance" even a concern in rock music anymore?
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Sure, granted. It's a real shame though, I think Lauren did one-and-a-half brilliant albums after the Score and Wycliffe has done some brilliant singles but... well, it's a shame. Then again, it's the law of hip-hop - at best, 2 great albums. I can't think of many in hip-hop who've done 4 great albums (MF Doom or someone excepted).

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I'd say DOOM, Ghostface, and Lil Wayne have more than 2 great albums. But three is a pretty accurate number of great albums in lot of Legendary discographies. Yeah.
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No offence, but it makes me very uncomfortable when people get nostalgic about the awkward years of my teenhood. It's nice and convenient to say it was all good, but I do remember there being a lot of utter shite around at the time as well.

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god damn that was a good time to be alive..

you had the Tribe Called Quest.. you had a slick rick come back.. you had Dr Octagon evolving into Dr Dooom.. The Outkast went Aquemini you had the Bob Digi going Prince Rakeim.. you had Snoop go party on No Limit.. you had Bone Thugz on the radio.. e-40 just dropped the Charlie Hustle.. good fucking times..


I'm so so glad that you understand that Dr. Dooom is far better and more interesting than Octo. So mean ppl sweat Octo, but I'd take FIRST COME FIRST SERVED over it any day of the week. And I mean, "I was there" when Octo came out. I loved it. But Dooom just blew me away.
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No offence, but it makes me very uncomfortable when people get nostalgic about the awkward years of my teenhood. It's nice and convenient to say it was all good, but I do remember there being a lot of utter shite around at the time as well.

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then yr teens sucked

and we are not necessarily getting nostalgic regarding being that age as much as remembering back when there was GOOD hip hop and even yes, good rap on the radio. The past ten years of rap music have been horrific, I personally blame the 3-Six Mafia.. too my recollection after Sizzerb the rap section went completely too shit
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I'm so so glad that you understand that Dr. Dooom is far better and more interesting than Octo. So mean ppl sweat Octo, but I'd take FIRST COME FIRST SERVED over it any day of the week. And I mean, "I was there" when Octo came out. I loved it. But Dooom just blew me away.
thats cuz Dr Dooom comes with that mad Yay ar-ee-uh style and beats.. that shit is fucking hip hop film noir
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then yr teens sucked

and we are not necessarily getting nostalgic regarding being that age as much as remembering back when there was GOOD hip hop and even yes, good rap on the radio. The past ten years of rap music have been horrific, I personally blame the 3-Six Mafia.. too my recollection after Sizzerb the rap section went completely too shit

I liked pretty much everything Three Six released up until LAST 2 WALK.
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thats cuz Dr Dooom comes with that mad Yay ar-ee-uh style and beats.. that shit is fucking hip hop film noir

"No Chorus" is one of the most ridiculous rap songs ever recorded. The outro alone: "your mixdown ain't right / your vocals are too low / your fuckin' cadence is off / you're whack..." haha. Incredible.
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I think what makes the Score so much the shit is that is one of the few eastcoast records with enough westcoast flavor to the beats to be able to C-walk it up..

the problem with eastcoast shit is that it has no groove.. its all about the mo fos talking and rapping and telling a bunch of bullshit stories.. blah blah woof woof..

drop the beat and let i-man get in the groove.. if you can't c-walk I aint finnin pon it..
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