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Old 07.11.2010, 09:48 AM   #1
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I don't mean people who amass a collection of records by buying one copy of each. I mean record-buyers who feel the need of owning several variants of the same album.
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Old 07.11.2010, 09:49 AM   #2
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Old 07.11.2010, 10:08 AM   #3
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Old 07.11.2010, 10:20 AM   #4
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I've found I've gotten so selective these days. Like each year my interest in having all these records just gets smaller and I only want very certain stuff. And as far as reissues goes, it's basically just SY.
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Old 07.11.2010, 10:27 AM   #5
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Excusable for "audiophile" purposes, such as finding the best-sounding pressing or trying to get as close as possible to the first set of stampers in the country of origin (all the while assuming your system is worthy of the time and expense involved).

Otherwise it can be ridiculous. Though certain reissues/remasters can be well worth checking out. And I guess these people have kept me employed for various stretches, so I can't speak too ill of them. I have a little bit of that in me, but I try to keep it in check. I would usually rather get something I don't already have with what little money I have to spend these days.
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Old 07.11.2010, 10:40 AM   #6
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This reminds me of the aging and foul smelling lot who go to record fairs, blocking every stand and desk and chat about some japan only pressing of the dire straits or pink floyd record and try to determine in their small minds eyes bulging whether it's "MINT" or "VG" like they didn't already own the damn album.

Having said that, I do have some cds I'd like to replace with vinyl.

I guess record collecting might make sense business -wise. People seem to be willing to pay big money just for the sake of the edition or the origin of the album.
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Old 07.11.2010, 11:38 AM   #7
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I'm guilty of this, but only with SY and only when the dupes are very cheap - fr'example, I got the Zensor version of the debut EP years ago before it was reissued, then got a great deal on a Neutral original. I got the expanded 2disc version when it was reissued, and some time later found the SST one for about £3.
Is that so bad really?

For any other artists, if I end up with more than one, I'll keep the original and pass the extras on to a friend, apart from a handful of cases where I've kept both mono & stereo copies.
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Old 07.11.2010, 11:54 AM   #8
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I will raise my hand and say that I'm guilty of this as well...
Only for SY's output as previous posters have stated (and side projects). But having said that I try to keep it in check, and still have more than a few gaping holes in my collection.
There is plenty of time to fill those holes and I think it's a fun pursuit... ...nothing beats the thrill of the chase.

If I was less disciplined it could easily get out of hand though !
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Old 07.13.2010, 04:05 AM   #9
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I haven't the time for multiple versions of the same record. Audiophiles confuse me. But fair play to them. Having said that, I have got different conductors/ musicians doing the same pieces. But that's different and expected, right?
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Old 07.13.2010, 06:37 AM   #10
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the differences have to be major. like different recordings, producer or something. but that doesnt mean in the first place that its buyworthy. since the online era where you can get almost anything if you got enough money had made me way more picky. I never was one of those "I need all versions" guys. I am a sucker for bonus material like artworks, tunes or any extra content. I also like limited editions.
I prefer a limited pressing of an actual album way over some bottlegged and crappy sounding shit.
I collected a ashitload of nirvana bootlegs in my teens, which were pretty hard to get in the early nineties. for two reasons: no web and I live in germany, they actually CARE for what is being sold in a way that makes it almost impossible to find pirate material anywhere sold officially. Ive sold most of that bootlegs at the beginning of 2000 on ebay, cuase they were JUST bootlegs

If I had the chance of starting again, I would only buy vinyls and D/L mp3s. cds suck, they are small and made of ugly plastic. a nice cover in a decent size is what matters most beneath the actual music, imo.
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Old 07.13.2010, 08:41 AM   #11
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I try to not buy doubles, and I do cringe when I get something on vinyl that I have on CD, but CD's are not the same.

Having said that, I have multiple pressings of various albums, mostly to get better sound, for my old beatles albums were second hand and scratched and cracked (and I wore them out).

I make exceptions for colored vinyl. I have 4 different copies of Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge. one regular. one clear vinyl. one in puke colored viny and one picture disc.

I have daydream nation at least 4 different ways and am looking for the russian bootleg!

I mostly do this only for sonic youth
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Old 07.13.2010, 09:08 AM   #12
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I haven't collected hardcore music in several years now. Much of that stuff has been sold/given away, but I've held on to the mandatory Black Flags, Poison Ideas, etc/etc. Minor Threat annoys me.


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bad joke.

Hmm....Only albums I've ever felt some serious need to collect are ANYTHING i don't have already SY related. Stooges. Nirvana. 80's texas punk (Butthole Surfers, Big Boys, Scratch Acid, etc...really wish I could find me some Toxic Shock)...

All that "CBGB" stuff.

I agree w. atsonicpark. You can't take any of it w/ ya when ya die (I don't collect the way I used to, seldom buy anything)...BUT, it's fun. Almost (!!!) everything anyone ever does boils down to entertainment. Wether it's being a hardcore collector of anything, jogging, owning a pet, sex, religion, books whatever.


If ya enjoy it, do it. Just don't steal or kill + we're good.


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Old 07.13.2010, 09:54 AM   #13
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what is great about collectors is that, when they die, if we are lucky, their collections have been taken care of and the items can go to new homes.
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Old 07.13.2010, 10:07 AM   #14
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Agreed. I like to think that before I die I can pass on my stuff to some kid that'll appreciate it. Hopefully at a time when I'm near deafness anyways. haha...you know, like when i'm 432 and have outlived anyone/everyone that mattered to me anyways.
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Old 07.13.2010, 10:08 AM   #15
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Are there still people who want to pay $300 for a Black Flag, or Misfits 7 inch?
When it can be downloaded for free.
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Old 07.13.2010, 10:12 AM   #16
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There are people who will pay that, because it is an artifact.

a Matisse doodle is worthless to own, when you can just download a pic of it, but it is not the same is it?
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Are there still people who want to pay $300 for a Black Flag, or Misfits 7 inch.
When it can be downloaded for free.


I can appreciate that mentality, even if it sometimes saddens me a bit. I just remember the days when music couldn't be downloaded. Some of the best fun I ever had was walking around Athens record stores and leaving w/ stacks of music.

But, times are changing.

I do download stuff.

But....this doesn't change the fact that I also collected a lot.

I'll still buy something on occassion if the price is right. Picked up Neil Young's (perfect condition) "Harvest" on wax @ Goodwill a couple days ago. 2.50...I win.
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Old 07.13.2010, 10:34 AM   #18
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I found Neil Young's ON THE BEACH for $1.50 at a thrift store. fucking cool.
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a Matisse doodle is worthless to own, when you can just download a pic of it, but it is not the same is it?
Everything Matisse wrote, or draw, or paint is worth money.
But the reproductions are worth nothing (maybe some feelings to the viewer, but no money).
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Are there still people who want to pay $300 for a Black Flag, or Misfits 7 inch?
When it can be downloaded for free.

agreed, but i doubt the people in their teens and 20's will be record hounds like the generation before them. they learned to approach and listen and gather music much differently.
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