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Old 03.02.2007, 04:31 PM   #1
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I have a feeling the whole "No wave" thing might become a big reference point for alot of trendy bands over the next year. Seeing as every other aspect of 80s music seems to have been referenced to hell over the past 4 years it makes sense that the more avant garde sides of it will get credited (albeit in a more popularised, easier to listen to way... much like... Sonic Youth perhaps?) in the next decade. I dont expect a Glenn Branca NME cover, but kinda like Gang of four and Joy Division came back into fashion over the last 5 years or so.
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Old 03.02.2007, 04:57 PM   #2
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You're wrong - this years thing, blatently, is going to be reformed bands.
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Old 03.02.2007, 05:04 PM   #3
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no no no reformed bands has been the thing of the last 3 years
Pixies
Gang of four (again)
Slint
Wedding Present
plus many others.
Theres noone else to reform except Pavement!
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Old 03.02.2007, 05:27 PM   #4
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Yeah but its just absurd this year...

Dinosaur Jr - Well their first album with the reformed lot is dropping this year
Van halen
The Jam
Jesus and Mary chain
Genesis
Rage Against the Machine
Smashing Pumpkins
Sepultura (rumored)
The Police

there are a lot more rumoured too - something is going on. Like its been building up to 2007
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Old 03.02.2007, 05:31 PM   #5
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The trend has been going since the Pixies 3/4 years ago though. Since then everything has happened cos the Pixies reunion was so successful.
I dont really like the new Fall album "Reformation post-TLC" but the message in its title sums how things are. Why arent there new bands who really embody the spirit of these bands and dont just copy their style?
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Old 03.02.2007, 05:35 PM   #6
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umm... because everything has been saturated to the point that its all style and no substance, there's no community spirit anymore and no worthwhile idols to look up to?
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Old 03.02.2007, 05:43 PM   #7
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I think youre right in many ways. It would be nice to hear or see something outside the general TV and radio pathways. But community spirit is a redundant term in my eyes. Id like to see a newer community spirit that is linked just by a general kind of "bollocks to everything" style, doing yr own thing and not trying to get covered by blogs or the NME
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Old 03.02.2007, 05:55 PM   #8
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though if bands around at the moment just copy their style, we're basically in a vicious catch 22 circle - no point having a great fuck off scene if all the bands are bullshit. Maybe its just we're out touch who knows? I doubt it though... I think also part of the problem is like an overload culture today.
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Old 03.02.2007, 06:09 PM   #9
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well exactly thats why i think something like "Nowave" (whatever the geeks define this as i dont care) will become a known reference point
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Old 03.02.2007, 08:20 PM   #10
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NME wouldn't touch No Wave with a barge pole so I doubt any scenester tossers will get onto it. Even if they do, we can expect nothing more than a extremely brief feedback squeal heard as a song fades out.
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Old 03.02.2007, 08:23 PM   #11
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agreed. No Wave could only be appropriated by the mainstream in an extremely diluted way.
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Old 03.02.2007, 08:27 PM   #12
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Didn't this already happen? Remember The Rapture, Radio 4...all that shit. Didn't really sound Nowave but they were blatantly trying to cash in on that New York hip vibe. There was even a comp called Yes New York for fuck sake...with similar artwork to No New York. (always got me briefly excited everytime I went in Fopp and saw it for a fiver before I realised what it was)
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Old 03.02.2007, 08:29 PM   #13
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Old 03.02.2007, 08:31 PM   #14
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but that was more post punk than no wave.. sorta touched on no wave in a quite superficial way, non?
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The trend has been going since the Pixies 3/4 years ago though. Since then everything has happened cos the Pixies reunion was so successful.

first reunions i can recall (meaningful ones, anyway) were the Soft Boys and Mission of Burma; i don't think Wire ever really called it quits at any one time, but they could be lumped in too.
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but that was more post punk than no wave.. sorta touched on no wave in a quite superficial way, non?

Yeah but the original post was suggesting that bands might use No Wave as a reference point which I took to mean "namecheck but not actually sound like". I don't think anything that has more than a superficial nod to No Wave is going to become popular...not musically anyway. But yes, it wouldn't surprise me if there were bands now or in the future that namechecked DNA, wore Contortions tshirts and sounded like U2. But I probably wouldn't know about it unless someone here posted about it. So, if it does happen please try and make sure I am out of the loop...thanks.
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Old 03.02.2007, 08:46 PM   #17
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hopefully no wave becomes dead cool then my band might be semi-successful and i wouldn't have to get a real job
wait, that might suck
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Old 03.02.2007, 09:03 PM   #18
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Haha....surely if you can avoid getting a real job then that would be ace, no?
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first reunions i can recall (meaningful ones, anyway) were the Soft Boys and Mission of Burma; i don't think Wire ever really called it quits at any one time, but they could be lumped in too.

reunions have been happening since you were probably still in nappies sonny boy, e.g. VU & sex pistols
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Old 03.03.2007, 11:13 AM   #20
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Didn't this already happen? Remember The Rapture, Radio 4...all that shit. Didn't really sound Nowave but they were blatantly trying to cash in on that New York hip vibe. There was even a comp called Yes New York for fuck sake...with similar artwork to No New York. (always got me briefly excited everytime I went in Fopp and saw it for a fiver before I realised what it was)


Don't forget that "Kill your Idols" documentary from a few years ago... it's filled with modern day Brooklyn post-punk poser bands referencing/being linked to the original New York no-wave scene. It's total crap by the way and I'm glad I followed this board's advice and downloaded it instead of wasting money on buying the DVD.
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