Worthwhile best of the 2010s lists?

Severian · 11.14.2019, 09:29 PM

So. Almost another decade. Yay. Time for lists: things I used to love that social media and listicles have utterly sucked the life out of for me.

I’m not sure if I’m doing anything more than a top 10, but what I want to know is: Are there ANY music sites out there whose lists you’re looking forward to?

Please send recommendations for lists that might be worth viewing.

Thanks or whatever.

Bytor Peltor · 11.21.2019, 09:35 PM

Tiny Mix Tapes: 2010’s Empty Essence

Not sure if this is what you were looking for, but there is a little something for everyone.

Severian · 11.22.2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Tiny Mix Tapes: 2010’s Empty Essence

Not sure if this is what you were looking for, but there is a little something for everyone.

Yeah that works. Thanks.

Crazy how everyone’s sharing stuff.

!@#$%! · 11.22.2019, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

So. Almost another decade. Yay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

Crazy how everyone’s sharing stuff.

i don’t know any lists, sorry

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eta bitchdork has 200. top googl result
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists...-of-the-2010s/

ah, why did i have to look...

The Soup Nazi · 11.30.2019, 03:49 AM

Beyond the "best of the decade" matter, it used to be so easy to find top-ten lists of each year by publication on Metacritic. Now I can't for the life of me find those goddamn little lists there - I wonder if the website received some kind of DMCA notice about it and can't show them anymore. If I'm wrong and that section is still on the site, please let me know and dare to call me an idiot who can't follow links properly:

https://www.metacritic.com/music

d.sound · 12.02.2019, 06:27 PM

fyi, the calendar began at year 1 not year zero. the next decade doesn't start until 2021

/nerd

!@#$%! · 12.02.2019, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by d.sound

fyi, the calendar began at year 1 not year zero. the next decade doesn't start until 2021

/nerd

a decade is not like a century that marks the calendar.

a decade can begin and end wherever one chooses.

so the 10s is just the 10 years that begin with 1 (in this context)

2001 is the real beginning of the xxi century, but 1980 was the beginning of the 80s. apples, oranges

Genteel Death · 12.02.2019, 06:59 PM

This thread is off to a good start. Why do you not post some lists and shut the fuck up?

d.sound · 12.02.2019, 07:26 PM

one can pick and choose a century or millenia as well. no one doing all these "end of the 2010s" list are mentioning their awareness that it isn't the end of the 2010s.

The Soup Nazi · 12.03.2019, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

2001 is the real beginning of the xxi century

In fact, if we adopt a historian's perspective, 2001 is the real beginning of the 21st century because of 9/11. And the 20th century is often "compacted" to about eighty years (mathematically incongruous, I know) and called "from Sarajevo to Sarajevo": Franz Ferdinand's assassination in 1914 to the siege of the city in 1992.

Actually, what's incongrous is that Franz Ferdinand the Archduke, not the band, was the one assassinated. NOW, I finally found what I was looking for on Metacritic. Want lists? Here are 21 best-of-the-decade lists and 20 best-of-2019 lists. Both sets preceded, as you can see, by Metacritic's own calculations. Munch on THAT and report back.

The Soup Nazi · 12.03.2019, 01:29 AM

By the way, when reading all this stuff it's crucial to keep in mind what Robert Christgau says: consensus has consequences. Here's the most recent of those columns I could find after a quick search (it's from 2014, though!):

https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bn/2014-01.php

Years go by, trends change, records nobody in their right mind considered bitchen or relevant may eventually resurface as masterpieces that everybody was too stupid to give more than one spin. And sometimes they're not that obscure, if at all! I keep saying that every time Sam Phillips makes an album it's one of the year's best, but nobody here gives a flying fuck (your loss, mooks). I can guarantee you that Diane Cluck's upcoming album will be gorgeous (I've heard the songs recorded live and she'd have to get hit in the head by a meteorite to ruin them in the studio), but since "wyrd folk" (good LAWD what a dumb tag) ain't where it is anymore, it won't show up on any goddamn list. You know who will be listed, inevitably? Kanye West, whose 2020 LP, Michaelo Ricardo, will consist of praises to Mike Pence over Ray Conniff samples.

Shit, even a band as great and consistent as Wye Oak, praised by everyone and your grandmother just a few years ago, got barely a mention in 2018, even though they made one of their best, The Loudest I Call, The Faster It Runs. To a degree, this isn't unlike, say, the Golden Globes, where the critics get smitten with a show; then, regardless of its merits, they move on to the next shiny thing. Hugh Laurie won the award for his performance in the first two seasons of House, but when he and the program reached their quality peak in season three, the vote went to the new kid in town, Jon Hamm.

On the other hand, some universal acclaim is certainly deserved. I do believe Weyes Blood made a phenomenal work that will stand the test of time. Just take these bloody lists with a kilo of salt and try not to choke on it.

_tunic_ · 12.03.2019, 03:34 AM

You want lists, you get lists.
Here's a list of number 1 hits in the Dutch charts between 2010 and now. Or actually until 2014, because by then they realised that nobody gave a fuck.

d.sound · 12.03.2019, 06:03 AM

Great posts soup!

As for music websites, I only give a shit about Brainwashed and TMT. Those are the only sites I'm aware of that truly dig deep into obscure avant music i like. Yeah yeah the Wire blah but it's stupid expensive.

Severian · 12.03.2019, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

This thread is off to a good start. Why do you not post some lists and shut the fuck up?

Because I haven’t seen any good ones? I don’t spend as much time on the internet as I used to, because I don’t have much time?

Because I’m literally asking other people if they have seen any good lists and to share them if that is the case?

Truly the point and purpose of the thread.

Why don’t YOU post something? I’d genuinely love to see any worthwhile end-of-decade lists you’ve come across.

Not counting the P4k/Rolling Stone/Spins of the world because bleh.

Anyway don’t be a shit

Severian · 12.03.2019, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

a decade is not like a century that marks the calendar.

a decade can begin and end wherever one chooses.

so the 10s is just the 10 years that begin with 1 (in this context)

2001 is the real beginning of the xxi century, but 1980 was the beginning of the 80s. apples, oranges

Didn’t think I needed to clarify this, but this is for Jan. 1, 2010-Dec. 31, 2019. Aka the 2010s.

Bytor Peltor · 12.03.2019, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

I’d genuinely love to see any worthwhile end-of-decade lists you’ve come across.

This is something I’ve come up with, so I doubt anyone finds it worthwhile.

Three random (not a best of) albums from each year:

2010
Sun City Girls - Funeral Mariachi
JG Thirwell - The Mesopelagic Waters
Barn Owl - Ancestral Star

2011
Charalambides - Exile
Thurston Moore - Demolished Thiughts
Alvarius B - Barboque Primitiva

2012
Dead Can Dance - Anastasia
Aaron Dilloway - Modern Jester
X-TG - Desert Shore/The Final Report

2013
Body/Head - Coming Apart
Jesu - Everyday I Get Closer To The Light From Which I Came
Wire - Change Become Us

2014
Current 93 - I Am The Last Of All The Field That Fell
Sun Kill Moon - Benji
Einstürzende Neubauten - Lament

2015
Wolf Eyes - I Am A Problem: Mind In Pieces
Lightning Bolt - Fantasy Empire
Flying Saucer Attack - Instrumentals 2015

2016
Brian Eno - The Ship
Controlled Bleeding - Larva Lamps And Baby Bumps
Bonnie Prince Billy - Pond Scum

2017
Slowdive - Slowdive
UUUU - UUUU
Aaron Dilloway - The Gag File

2018
Wet Tuna - Livin’ The Die
Andrew Chalk - Baroque Steps
Lea Bertucci - Metal Aerher

2019
Blood Rhythms - Civil War
The Modern Folk - Modern Folk X
Tuluum Shimmering - Blue Water Sunray

choc e-Claire · 12.03.2019, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

This is something I’ve come up with, so I doubt anyone finds it worthwhile.

"He can be taught!"

Severian · 12.04.2019, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

This is something I’ve come up with, so I doubt anyone finds it worthwhile.

Three random (not a best of) albums from each year:

2010
Sun City Girls - Funeral Mariachi
JG Thirwell - The Mesopelagic Waters
Barn Owl - Ancestral Star

2011
Charalambides - Exile
Thurston Moore - Demolished Thiughts
Alvarius B - Barboque Primitiva

2012
Dead Can Dance - Anastasia
Aaron Dilloway - Modern Jester
X-TG - Desert Shore/The Final Report

2013
Body/Head - Coming Apart
Jesu - Everyday I Get Closer To The Light From Which I Came
Wire - Change Become Us

2014
Current 93 - I Am The Last Of All The Field That Fell
Sun Kill Moon - Benji
Einstürzende Neubauten - Lament

2015
Wolf Eyes - I Am A Problem: Mind In Pieces
Lightning Bolt - Fantasy Empire
Flying Saucer Attack - Instrumentals 2015

2016
Brian Eno - The Ship
Controlled Bleeding - Larva Lamps And Baby Bumps
Bonnie Prince Billy - Pond Scum

2017
Slowdive - Slowdive
UUUU - UUUU
Aaron Dilloway - The Gag File

2018
Wet Tuna - Livin’ The Die
Andrew Chalk - Baroque Steps
Lea Bertucci - Metal Aerher

2019
Blood Rhythms - Civil War
The Modern Folk - Modern Folk X
Tuluum Shimmering - Blue Water Sunray

These are good picks! Though not my own picks. But hey, that’s kind of the point.
Thanks!

Severian · 12.04.2019, 08:30 AM

There was another website/zine that used to have a fan base on SYG. I can’t remember the name of it for the life of me, but it was the kind of site that put Oren Ambarchi and Jefre Cantu-Ledesma and Emeralds and stuff on year-end lists... like the most widely known entry would be Swans or something.

Anyway, does anyone know what I’m talking about?
Don’t remember the name because I’m not cool, and I don’t have time to scour the boards for it, but it was like white text on a black background? Mostly text-based. Always had really good lists.

h8kurdt · 12.04.2019, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

Because I haven’t seen any good ones? I don’t spend as much time on the internet as I used to, because I don’t have much time?

Because I’m literally asking other people if they have seen any good lists and to share them if that is the case?

Truly the point and purpose of the thread.

Why don’t YOU post something? I’d genuinely love to see any worthwhile end-of-decade lists you’ve come across.

Not counting the P4k/Rolling Stone/Spins of the world because bleh.

Anyway don’t be a shit

Actually saw the pitchfork one yesterday. Fuck me what a dire list. Swear they just pick em out of a hat and hope people swallow it

11.14.2019, 09:29 PM	#1
Severian invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11,745	So. Almost another decade. Yay. Time for lists: things I used to love that social media and listicles have utterly sucked the life out of for me. I’m not sure if I’m doing anything more than a top 10, but what I want to know is: Are there ANY music sites out there whose lists you’re looking forward to? Please send recommendations for lists that might be worth viewing. Thanks or whatever.
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11.21.2019, 09:35 PM	#2
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	Tiny Mix Tapes: 2010’s Empty Essence Not sure if this is what you were looking for, but there is a little something for everyone.
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11.30.2019, 03:49 AM	#5
The Soup Nazi invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Del Boca Vista Posts: 18,242	Beyond the "best of the decade" matter, it used to be so easy to find top-ten lists of each year by publication on Metacritic. Now I can't for the life of me find those goddamn little lists there - I wonder if the website received some kind of DMCA notice about it and can't show them anymore. If I'm wrong and that section is still on the site, please let me know and dare to call me an idiot who can't follow links properly: https://www.metacritic.com/music __________________ GADJI BERI BIMBA GLANDRIDI LAULI LONNI CADORI GADJAM A BIM BERI GLASSALA GLANDRIDI E GLASSALA TUFFM I ZIMBRA
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12.02.2019, 06:27 PM	#6
d.sound the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 553	fyi, the calendar began at year 1 not year zero. the next decade doesn't start until 2021 /nerd __________________ http://chaotropics.bandcamp.com http://seatone.bandcamp.com
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12.02.2019, 06:59 PM	#8
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	This thread is off to a good start. Why do you not post some lists and shut the fuck up?
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12.02.2019, 07:26 PM	#9
d.sound the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 553	one can pick and choose a century or millenia as well. no one doing all these "end of the 2010s" list are mentioning their awareness that it isn't the end of the 2010s. __________________ http://chaotropics.bandcamp.com http://seatone.bandcamp.com
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12.03.2019, 01:29 AM	#11
The Soup Nazi invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Del Boca Vista Posts: 18,242	By the way, when reading all this stuff it's crucial to keep in mind what Robert Christgau says: consensus has consequences. Here's the most recent of those columns I could find after a quick search (it's from 2014, though!): https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bn/2014-01.php Years go by, trends change, records nobody in their right mind considered bitchen or relevant may eventually resurface as masterpieces that everybody was too stupid to give more than one spin. And sometimes they're not that obscure, if at all! I keep saying that every time Sam Phillips makes an album it's one of the year's best, but nobody here gives a flying fuck (your loss, mooks). I can guarantee you that Diane Cluck's upcoming album will be gorgeous (I've heard the songs recorded live and she'd have to get hit in the head by a meteorite to ruin them in the studio), but since "wyrd folk" (good LAWD what a dumb tag) ain't where it is anymore, it won't show up on any goddamn list. You know who will be listed, inevitably? Kanye West, whose 2020 LP, Michaelo Ricardo, will consist of praises to Mike Pence over Ray Conniff samples. Shit, even a band as great and consistent as Wye Oak, praised by everyone and your grandmother just a few years ago, got barely a mention in 2018, even though they made one of their best, The Loudest I Call, The Faster It Runs. To a degree, this isn't unlike, say, the Golden Globes, where the critics get smitten with a show; then, regardless of its merits, they move on to the next shiny thing. Hugh Laurie won the award for his performance in the first two seasons of House, but when he and the program reached their quality peak in season three, the vote went to the new kid in town, Jon Hamm. On the other hand, some universal acclaim is certainly deserved. I do believe Weyes Blood made a phenomenal work that will stand the test of time. Just take these bloody lists with a kilo of salt and try not to choke on it. __________________ GADJI BERI BIMBA GLANDRIDI LAULI LONNI CADORI GADJAM A BIM BERI GLASSALA GLANDRIDI E GLASSALA TUFFM I ZIMBRA
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12.03.2019, 03:34 AM	#12
_tunic_ invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: I could live in eurHope Posts: 3,942	You want lists, you get lists. Here's a list of number 1 hits in the Dutch charts between 2010 and now. Or actually until 2014, because by then they realised that nobody gave a fuck. __________________ what comes first, the music or the words?
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12.03.2019, 06:03 AM	#13
d.sound the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 553	Great posts soup! As for music websites, I only give a shit about Brainwashed and TMT. Those are the only sites I'm aware of that truly dig deep into obscure avant music i like. Yeah yeah the Wire blah but it's stupid expensive. __________________ http://chaotropics.bandcamp.com http://seatone.bandcamp.com
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12.04.2019, 08:30 AM	#19
Severian invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11,745	There was another website/zine that used to have a fan base on SYG. I can’t remember the name of it for the life of me, but it was the kind of site that put Oren Ambarchi and Jefre Cantu-Ledesma and Emeralds and stuff on year-end lists... like the most widely known entry would be Swans or something. Anyway, does anyone know what I’m talking about? Don’t remember the name because I’m not cool, and I don’t have time to scour the boards for it, but it was like white text on a black background? Mostly text-based. Always had really good lists.
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