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Old 01.05.2010, 12:34 PM   #161
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The average person has never fallen for all that pseud hyperbole that only ever convinces imbecilic poseurs with more money than sense.

Since when has a person's liking of experimental or modern art had anything to do with money? If you're broke, a stroll around a major gallery filled with modern art is a decent and usually cost-free way to kill the day. It costs money to cast a vote on Celebrity Big Brother, though. God bless the financial nous of your 'average person'.
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Old 01.05.2010, 01:38 PM   #162
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LOL, sorry about last night. I got a bit excited. I'm not really angry.

Anyway, here's a Bateman.



 

Just to be clear, this painting just deflates me. It does absolutely NOTHING for me. Great technical talent though, I suppose.

This is not Art, surely?
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Old 01.05.2010, 01:55 PM   #163
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you might as well take a picture.

it's nocoincidence that abstract art started when photography started to offer more and more possibilities. before photography hyperrealistic painting was necessary because there was no alternative.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:00 PM   #164
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:04 PM   #165
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Oh Man......

I buy used Art books and cut Pollock out to frame. (He'd probably kill me for that.)

Your post is ultra brainwashed / generalizing....whatev.....I'm genuinely angry at it, but I'll recover quickly....

"familiar" "pretentious" "average" "psued" "hyperbole" "poseurs" "money/sense"

Goddammit!!!!

Haven't you been brainwashed into thinking Pollock's art is good?
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:11 PM   #166
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maybe your nonsense would be a bit more palatable if you happened to be as erection inducing as cartoon depictions of Ann Coulter.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:20 PM   #167
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maybe your nonsense would be a bit more palletable if you happened to be as erection inducing as cartoon depictions of Ann Coulter.

I see you've been brainwashed into thinking lame cartoon depictions of Ann Coulter can be used as an insult on message boards.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:23 PM   #168
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you seem to be obsessed with this idea that people who don't agree with you have in some way been brainwashed. It's odd.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:30 PM   #169
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you seem to be obsessed with this idea that people who don't agree with you have in some way been brainwashed. It's odd.

Not as odd as being brainwashed into using a lame, deflective counterargument like that against people who you think are obsessed with the idea that people who don't agree with them have in some way been brainwashed.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:37 PM   #170
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I like that painting of a leopard!

it surely is art. a great painting caputres much more than a photograph can.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:42 PM   #171
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I like that painting of a leopard!

it surely is art. a great painting caputres much more than a photograph can.

I agree. Technically it's faultless to the degree that it's difficult to differentiate it from a photograph.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:50 PM   #172
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that oil on masonite painting will be around far lomger than a film negative or a print will remain undamaged.
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Not as odd as being brainwashed into using a lame, deflective counterargument like that against people who you think are obsessed with the idea that people who don't agree with them have in some way been brainwashed.

You seem to have been brainwashed into believing that the brainwashing you've received was actually received by the people you're talking to, who are brainwashed into making perfectly reasonable arguments while you, brainwashedly, have been brainwashed into perceiving perfectly valid and reasonable arguments as an affront to your personality which, in your brainwashed state, you seem to ignore the fact that you're talking complete and utter shite while accusing other people of precisely the rabid incoherency and nonsense that the only the brainwashed (ie, you) could believe.
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Old 01.05.2010, 02:53 PM   #174
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You seem to have been brainwashed into believing that the brainwashing you've received was actually received by the people you're talking to, who are brainwashed into making perfectly reasonable arguments while you, brainwashedly, have been brainwashed into perceiving perfectly valid and reasonable arguments as an affront to your personality which, in your brainwashed state, you seem to ignore the fact that you're talking complete and utter shite while accusing other people of precisely the rabid incoherency and nonsense that the only the brainwashed (ie, you) could believe.

More brainwashed nonsense. You shouldn't be letting others do the thinking for you.
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Old 01.05.2010, 04:22 PM   #178
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after looking around for a minute for clues i found this plaque that indicated that the museum had purchased the long yellow hose from a mexican hose salesman in 1996.



 



... i've never before felt an impulse to immediately dismiss a piece of art as worthless/not art. there's always been something there that i could at least get a critical/interpretive handle on... some real or imagined more or less vague intention towards meaning that i could at least sink my teeth into and then accept or reject on those terms... at least engaging the work before saying that i don't like it/think it's poorly executed/downright idiotic...

but this absolutely refuses to be anything other than simply a hose... is that the point? more duchamp than duchamp? urinal as urinal and not readymade? if so, why is the hose not in use as a hose?


does anyone else "get it"?

i could come up with some sort of bullshit invention in 3 seconds.

eg- "the yellow hose is meant to remind us of the workers who labor to support the esthetic pleasures of the upper classes. like orozco, many of those workers are of mexican origin, and the bilingual title alludes to this..."

etc etc

ha ha ha

i still thik it's crap. but it do like how it fucks up the museum like they're in the middle of tending the yard or something. not that i have been there.

i hope he made good money from it though.

 


i haven't read the rest of the thread, i supposed there is much blah blah, but time is short.
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I do regret using the word "brainwashed" last night.
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Old 01.05.2010, 04:32 PM   #180
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