[Severian]

I've actually been really disappointed with this year's electronic music releases. Last two years it's been all I could do to even keep up with all the awesome releases dropping every few weeks throughout the year. This year, there's been nothing truly exciting that's made waves. Though I haven't heard Tim Hecker's new one yet. Still, it's been really goddamn quiet.

That and I've been really goddamn busy. Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe I'm maturing and finally growing out of my maniacal obsession with obtaining new music.

[noisereductions]

yeah. We might be grown ups. Weird. Haha.

[Severian]

Aw nuts.

[louder]

DJ Quik Calls Kanye West a Kardashian, Says ‘Life of Pablo’ Isn’t That Great
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/04/d...life-of-pablo/

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by louder

DJ Quik Calls Kanye West a Kardashian, Says ‘Life of Pablo’ Isn’t That Great
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/04/d...life-of-pablo/

Haha love me some Quik

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

DJ Quik Calls Kanye West a Kardashian, Says ‘Life of Pablo’ Isn’t That Great
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2016/04/d...life-of-pablo/

Hey, that's great! DJ Quik got himself a headline in 2016! Good for him.

[Severian]

"Send it up" is an awesome song. Just totally fucking awesome. Probably got less praise than any other Yeezus track, but that's a damn fine song right there.

Same goes for "Guilt trip."

[Severian]

I read an intersting little bullshit article called (something like) "11 Times Kim Kardashain clapped back at the haters" ... Or some such nonsense.

But I read through each account of people bashing her on social media (sometimes reputable ass bitches, like Bette Middler), and I read their comments as her responses, and I walked away with a much higher opinion of her. She bitch slaps some random asshole who calls her a whore who only married Kanye so she could be more famous, made some crack about their offspring being idiots or something, and she responded by correcting his grammar and punctuation, and saying "my children will at least know the difference between 'there' and 'their'" ... which I thought was pretty cute.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

Hey, that's great! DJ Quik got himself a headline in 2016! Good for him.

Don't hate on your elders son, especially founding fathers of hip hop.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Don't hate on your elders son, especially founding fathers of hip hop.

I'm not hating. I'm actually a fan. I'm just saying, the headline on pitchfork reads: "DJ Quik releases new EP, says Kanye West is a kardashian now" ... It probably wouldn't have even made the headlines without the Kanye reference. And Pitchfork wrote it that way to gain clicks.

It's nothing against Quik himself, but man, if you want to make headlines, say something extreme about Kanye West, and you've got yourself some press.

[noisereductions]

I really think Pfork handled the headline all wrong too. It was too sensational. If you read what he said y'know?

I got mad love and respect for Quik. Dude is genuinely a fan of music. He is a guy that is always about thinking about making something unique and different. I love that.

I felt he was talking as a fan. He admires Kanye. I feel like his thought was that Pablo isn't forward thinking. And I agree in a sense. It is a great album. But it's not pushing any boundaries. When College Dropout came out - everyone started doing the Kanye chipmunk soul shit. When "Goldigger" dropped people realized you could do big budget samples w/o copying the song wholesale like Puff. When Graduation dropped, it was suddenly cool to dig straight techno tracks. 808's pretty much launched a sub-genre. And so on.

So I don't think there was malice there. I think it was a fan saying - ok, good album but I wish it was on some next shit.

It's all good.

[louder]

I watched the video.. he said he wants Kanye to make his best music, and TLOP isn't that. And he thinks it's not as good as his previous albums, which I can agree with. I think he feels the same way I do.. it's just his honest opinion. They asked him about Kanye and he answered. I don't think he was trying to make a headline..

[louder]

Turbo Graffix, please be more like the Kanye we all love, and less like the Kanye Sev and NR but not louder love.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by louder

You know.. it's such a great relief that I don't even like Pablo. Sorry.

Haha word

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

I watched the video.. he said he wants Kanye to make his best music, and TLOP isn't that. And he thinks it's not as good as his previous albums, which I can agree with. I think he feels the same way I do.. it's just his honest opinion. They asked him about Kanye and he answered. I don't think he was trying to make a headline..

Well, trying or not, my point was more that the word Kanye is more likely to make a headline than not these days. Quik should have been given a blurb about his new album alone. But pitchfork knows how to grab readers.

Re: Kanye's best music

I don't know man. I feel like some tracks, namely ULB, Real Friends, No More Parties, 30 hours, Famous and Fade, are made with Ye fans in mind. I don't see how any fan of top tier Ye couldn't love those songs. All those songs either have Ye's classic self-deprecating lyrical charm, coupled with a sick ass beat, or feature totally inspired chopped up production that plays to his strengths as a producer. Definitely some of my favorite Kanye songs ever.

Every album since Graduation has turned off some fans and blown others away, and TLOP is really no different.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

Turbo Graffix, please be more like the Kanye we all love, and less like the Kanye Sev and NR but not louder love.

Betcha, like, a million dollars' worth of bragging rights that "Turbo" not only doesn't come out this year, but NEVER comes out under that title. Just a hunch

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Haha word

Quiet you! You won't listen to it anyway. You'll still only have ears for Gore.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by Severian

Quiet you! You won't listen to it anyway. You'll still only have ears for Gore.

his ears must be some kind of deaf ears
he can't hear anything but Gore

he only has ears
for Gore

[Severian]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

his ears must be some kind of deaf ears
he can't hear anything but Gore

he only has ears
for Gore

Hah!

Sounds like me during the 2000 election.

[Severian]

Real talk though: Even though TLOP is currently being considered more of a "cultural" script-flip, I actually think that in time it will end up having the same effect on music in general that the rest of 'Ye's albums have had.

I think it's apt to think of it as Kanye's White Album. It has a little bit of everything, and that includes dumbass shit like 2016 takes on the skits that populated his first two records ("I love Kanye", "Freestyle 4", "Silver Surfer Intermission", the end of 30 hours).

Did anyone notice the cover of Joywave's latest album?

 

And there have been other cultural references to TLOP as well.

But I strongly believe that this will influence a whole shit tonigh artists in the same way Ye's other albums have. But because there's so MUCH going on in the album, its actual sonic influence is probably going to be a little more subtle.

That's how it was with MBDTF too. Yeah, that album was like the OKC of hip-hop, and everyone everywhere knew, even if they didn't like it, that it was a game changer. But it didn't produce any direct imitators the way 808's and College Dropout, and Yeezus did. It's probably because the album was not a single statement, and didn't contain one overarching sonic theme (aside from, perhaps, digital maximalism, which Drake kind of aped on Take Care, and which artists like Rustie have pushed to the limit in other genres).

TLOP is a lot like MBDTF in this way. Unlike Yeezus (which was very direct, and had a singular sound throughout... one that inspired Travi$ Scott and new bloods like KIT and gave Pusha T a shot of adrenaline for his big comeback) or 808's, which we all know is probably Ye's most influential album, TLOP spins off in every direction. So I think its influence will be less about direct imitation, and more about other artists continuing to vibe on the record's general frequency.

For example, I think very few albums have been as influenced by MBDTF as Kendrick's To Pimp a Butterfly. They sound absolutely NOTHING alike, but are similar in size and scope. Kendrick didn't rip Ye off in any way, shape or form, but he made a Comton street poet's version of a prog-rap album, and the result has been, essentially, that when it comes to grand hip-hop statements, the 2010s can be represented by those two albjms and pretty much nothing else. If someone were to have a big conspiracy board devoted to modern hip-hop, there would be a little line of yarn connecting these two albums, and moving on to a giant ?.

I suspect TLOP's influence will be similarly broad.