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just cuz you don't like some rapper or their music is popular doesn't mean they aren't rap (or hip-hop.. basically the same thing, hate to burst your bubble). rap/hip-hop isn't some holier-than-thou term, you can be a shitty rapper but at the end of the day you'll still remain a rapper!
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but Hip Hop is pop music today. nothing wrong with that. |
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see i can understand a lot of criticism for Drake (i even have some myself), but saying he isn't a rapper is just taking it too far, lol.
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I do when I look at Drake's hard on for me on his own videos, yes. |
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I've only listened to a random selection on youtube, probably 10 songs, equivalent length to a short rap album. And that's enough, 10 songs is more than sufficient to figure out if you like something. I don't think listening to an actual album will change much. Anywayz, I'm not a huge Eminem fan, I find his 'serious' raps really boring, but when he's having fun he's great, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Lg0EDz8QE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_FreftDj5Y |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djuc0kg97yo 41 seconds in. You need to learn your history. |
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Jeez, don't be a fucking racist. Since when was hiphop ever meant to be smooth? Since when did people not show feelings in the 80s and 90s? How old are you anyway? Since when is producing yr own beats and rapping a good thing, personally I think it is just a reflection of the increasing solipsism of contemporary rap, it's like saying a band's records would be better if the singer made the music by themself. |
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same thing happened in the 90's. rap rock, trip hop, electronica, r and b stars with guest rappers. the only new 'pop' influence of hip hop I hear today is on bro country. I agree, Kayne turned hip hop upside down in way, but you have to understand hip hop was pop in the late 90's and early 2000's too. I wasn't quite old then and not much has changed besides the distribution, new production styles/flows and the emotional impact. I say, better hip hop to be 'pop' even more now than rap-rock, pop punk, or post grunge. it's always been mainstream where im from. so be it. Drake is not that bad and he shows appeal even to me. I understand why people like him. yeah, im kinda a (rock head). I can't help it. I like bass, guitar, and drums where three or four people are rocking in a room. it's magical, but I love lots of hip hop too. even some new shit you and Sev post. as you say, like what you like. yr getting defensive and taking it the wrong way. our posts are not a whole trying to attack you. different opinions. |
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my problem with mainstream pop hip hop is that it's relating more and more with white trash rednecks. what else are they going to listen to? date rape rap rock is over and heavy metal is elite and splintered. that can't be good.
it's inspiring to them. it's a paradox and why it must appeal to everyone because it's pop. those same artist you love are the same artist racist white folks are listening too. I know this for a fact, because im American. it's been happening for years and years now. it's calmed down now because of bro country, which is heavily inspired by hip hop. but it's all the same. |
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What did I miss? Why the gang up on louder? He speaks the truth. I used to think hip hop stopped evolving somewhere around 1997, with Wu-Tang forever.. That production tech would never surpass what Dan the Automator and Dj Shadow did in the mid-'90s, and that Public Enemy was Bob Dylan, Tribe and Wu were the Beatles, and Biggie was Elvis or something.
But rap (hip-hop, that is) has grown so much that it, along with electronic music as a whole, has become the canvas for popular music evolution. The most interesting sounds come from these genres, and hip-hop has become as musical as it is lyrical, which is something nobody ever expected back in the early '90s. Maybe I should read more of the argument before I sweep in... But whatever, he seems to be on point as usual to me. |
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yes, maybe you should read more of the argument before a comment. what you posted was predicted in the 90's. and it's only getting worse for hip hop, just like pop punk was the death nail. you guys need another genre. ![]() don't give me that old "hip hop is the new canvas" because that's old and I've already stated why. if you live in a liberal part of the country then there's more than a chance you can't compete with me and my opinions. I see it first hand. you maybe see a daydream fantasy. |
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music isn't "meant to be" one way or another, it just sounds better. you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, the comparsion with rock bands is silly, rappers producing their own music gives them room to express themselves in ways they couldn't have with words, and they make beats that match their flow resulting in unique sounds. |
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"rapper
[rap-er] noun 4. a person who performs rap music, especially professionally." |
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