Steve Albini Goes Off on Sonic Youth - Page 5

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 10.09.2010, 03:01 PM

Albini is truly the greatest recordist of our era and one of the best of all time. He may be eccentric, but I must admit he is not quite a sell out. It seems if anything that he has been the last thread of artistic integrity in the mainstream recordings of several bands and albums, and has already been pointed out, he hardly made any money of any of them!

I enjoy practically EVERYTHING he has recorded, and his touch is a sure sign that you will enjoy a band's album.

In regards to this mainstream vs indy debate..

Albini is actually right about the parasitic and exploitative music industry which destroys the art. He is a bit correct, and perhaps giving you a confession from the inside view about how sonic youth should be a bit embarassed, because to a degree they were in fact scouts. I absolutely adore what bands like SY and Nirvana did to mainstream music, utterly destroying hair bands BUT, none-the-less they did give the parasites of the music industry ample room to invade our otherwise delightful indy music scene...
ALL art has went through this debate from all eras. The rich and elitists and exploitative businessmen always are the wealthy patrons and consumers of art, and the artists always deal with this struggle. We should be able to criticize the exploitation without necessary judging the artists who both use and are used by the system. At best, it is just a wink and a nudge...

Kurt Cobain is the Carravagio of our generation, and the music industry are the Medicis.. Albini, he is just the Saint Francis dinosaur a bit out of touch and yet intuitively aware of the drama of the business, but at least a shines a light into the darkness, and all light in the context of darkness at times seems a contradiction to itself, but inevitably your eyes adjust..

Derek · 10.10.2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray

I think we're all forgetting that Rob is one of few people on here that often actually DOES know what he's talking about.

I like Rob. His interests go beyond musical snobbery + video games.

BeSt QUOTE OF THE BOARD.

ann ashtray · 10.10.2010, 08:48 AM

A wildflower painted and confined to a frame.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek

BeSt QUOTE OF THE BOARD.

Even more so than "I love meth" and "that girl is cute, minus the acne"?!

SURELY YOU JEST!

It's up there, though, definitely.

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray

A wildflower painted and confined to a frame.

Yeah that's a funny quote, not quite Lenny Bruce extremes though.

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Even more so than "I love meth" and "that girl is cute, minus the acne"?!

SURELY YOU JEST!

It's up there, though, definitely.

One of my favorite quotes to pass out to after a night of heavy Derek style drinking. That kid, + that damned love/hate relationship w/ whiskey. Worst ex-girlfriend ever. She shows up at random times, begging him to take her + he loves 'er so much that he's just gotta, gotta, gotta. After a few days she starts wearin' on 'em though, + he tells her to get lost again. Wines a bit sweeter, a bit more understanding. Even if not quite as sexy. She can sit on his fridge-top looking all sexy sometimes for days on end, and he doesn't even have to touch her.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:19 AM

But Swa(y) + Ms. Ezra Brooks, they've had some great times w/ that quote..... Room dark as shit and spinning, that quote will slow things down a bit.

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:20 AM

yeah, it's toward the top of my list of fav. quotes to get drunk to. + whenever I'm reading it, I feel like the only person in the entire world. I can dig that.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ni'k

worst post of all time?

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Yeah, it's up there.

Yeah, it's definitely, DEFINITELY up there!

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:21 AM

I thought it was fantastic.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:23 AM

Hey guys,

I'm just going to explain my post by saying that that quote fucking bored me to death, I think it's one of the worst quotes I've ever heard and I don't really hate things without humor, there are some quotes that I really dig (from Derek, atsonicpark, Glice, Dead-Air...) but I listened to that quote when I wasn't that much into quoting (basically, at the time, I was thinking that quotes = boring). Now, maybe I should give it another try but seriously, from what I remember, it was just plain boring...

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:25 AM

It's a quote. It doesn't give you a fucking personality.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:26 AM

I like quotes. Their interests go beyond musical snobbery + video games.

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:28 AM

Hhaa, Robe. actually made a tribute (in title anyway) cd.. Quotes:Special Low Frequency Edition (Boris made the Absolutego tribute version too). Great album. Phases 3 is also awesome. The thing is, it was such a simple but perfect quote that there really doesn't need to be any more speechdrone stuff that sounds like this album -- and yet there was...

Quote:

tons of it.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:30 AM

(I just fuckin adore the structure of the quote. Quoteage eventually gives way to unquoteage with quote-percussives, and the way that these people did it is beyond mere worship. It really is a compositional masterpiece, up there with Bach and Cage.) __________________

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:33 AM

I love that record, but to be honest, I like meth more. "Hex" and "The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull" totally blew my mind. Driving stoned in the desert with those sounds is surreal. I love the wild west "Blood Meridian" influences. Meth is one of today's most important drugs.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 09:35 AM

i listen to ann ashtray's quotes in my car so it sounds like i'm driving a refrigerator.

Derek · 10.10.2010, 09:39 AM

ann ashtray is swa(y), now I don't know if he has other quotes, but who the fuck cares.

Odelay for me, and sea change too coz the extracts are amazing on that.

atsonicpark · 10.10.2010, 10:09 AM

Steve says "end of thread."

Moshe · 10.11.2010, 01:32 AM

http://pitchfork.com/features/articl...f-sonic-youth/

10.09.2010, 03:01 PM	#81
SuchFriendsAreDangerous invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fucking Los Angeles Posts: 14,801	Albini is truly the greatest recordist of our era and one of the best of all time. He may be eccentric, but I must admit he is not quite a sell out. It seems if anything that he has been the last thread of artistic integrity in the mainstream recordings of several bands and albums, and has already been pointed out, he hardly made any money of any of them! I enjoy practically EVERYTHING he has recorded, and his touch is a sure sign that you will enjoy a band's album. In regards to this mainstream vs indy debate.. Albini is actually right about the parasitic and exploitative music industry which destroys the art. He is a bit correct, and perhaps giving you a confession from the inside view about how sonic youth should be a bit embarassed, because to a degree they were in fact scouts. I absolutely adore what bands like SY and Nirvana did to mainstream music, utterly destroying hair bands BUT, none-the-less they did give the parasites of the music industry ample room to invade our otherwise delightful indy music scene... ALL art has went through this debate from all eras. The rich and elitists and exploitative businessmen always are the wealthy patrons and consumers of art, and the artists always deal with this struggle. We should be able to criticize the exploitation without necessary judging the artists who both use and are used by the system. At best, it is just a wink and a nudge... Kurt Cobain is the Carravagio of our generation, and the music industry are the Medicis.. Albini, he is just the Saint Francis dinosaur a bit out of touch and yet intuitively aware of the drama of the business, but at least a shines a light into the darkness, and all light in the context of darkness at times seems a contradiction to itself, but inevitably your eyes adjust.. __________________ Today Rap music is the Lakers
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ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	A wildflower painted and confined to a frame. __________________ Team Thurston!
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10.10.2010, 09:19 AM	#87
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	But Swa(y) + Ms. Ezra Brooks, they've had some great times w/ that quote..... Room dark as shit and spinning, that quote will slow things down a bit. __________________
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10.10.2010, 09:20 AM	#88
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	yeah, it's toward the top of my list of fav. quotes to get drunk to. + whenever I'm reading it, I feel like the only person in the entire world. I can dig that.
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10.10.2010, 09:21 AM	#90
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	I thought it was fantastic.
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10.10.2010, 09:23 AM	#91
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Hey guys, I'm just going to explain my post by saying that that quote fucking bored me to death, I think it's one of the worst quotes I've ever heard and I don't really hate things without humor, there are some quotes that I really dig (from Derek, atsonicpark, Glice, Dead-Air...) but I listened to that quote when I wasn't that much into quoting (basically, at the time, I was thinking that quotes = boring). Now, maybe I should give it another try but seriously, from what I remember, it was just plain boring... __________________
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10.10.2010, 09:25 AM	#92
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	It's a quote. It doesn't give you a fucking personality.
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10.10.2010, 09:26 AM	#93
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I like quotes. Their interests go beyond musical snobbery + video games. __________________
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10.10.2010, 09:30 AM	#95
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	(I just fuckin adore the structure of the quote. Quoteage eventually gives way to unquoteage with quote-percussives, and the way that these people did it is beyond mere worship. It really is a compositional masterpiece, up there with Bach and Cage.) __________________ __________________
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10.10.2010, 09:33 AM	#96
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	I love that record, but to be honest, I like meth more. "Hex" and "The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull" totally blew my mind. Driving stoned in the desert with those sounds is surreal. I love the wild west "Blood Meridian" influences. Meth is one of today's most important drugs.
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10.10.2010, 09:35 AM	#97
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	i listen to ann ashtray's quotes in my car so it sounds like i'm driving a refrigerator. __________________
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10.10.2010, 09:39 AM	#98
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	ann ashtray is swa(y), now I don't know if he has other quotes, but who the fuck cares. Odelay for me, and sea change too coz the extracts are amazing on that.
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10.10.2010, 10:09 AM	#99
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Steve says "end of thread." __________________
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10.11.2010, 01:32 AM	#100
Moshe Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,896	http://pitchfork.com/features/articl...f-sonic-youth/
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