[atsonicpark]

Tool is one of those bands you like when you're a teenager.

...but you love when you're an adult.

ZING!

Or maybe this post is april fools-ish.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Looking through this thread, it's funny, it looks like I made all the posts, when in fact I was replying to SWay on a bunch of them...

Oh, and belated reply (perhaps I just didn't deem this as even being worth wasting my time replying to the first time around)..
I've never encountered you in your life, so your point is invalid. But yeah, ICP fucking rulz. JUGGALOS FOR LIFE WOOP WOOP.

I just went through some of infinitemusic's posts - I've always found him relentlessly negative. After 3 pages of drudgery, there was something mildly positive about Vic Chestnutt and Black Sabbath, a few comments about SY and otherwise exclusively negative comments. In that context, I laughed when I got to this post:

Originally Posted by infinitemusic

Dude, ignore it. When you have nothing to contribute, you do shit like post pictures of Billy Corgan.

In response to Herr Death.

Obviously, I'm hardly captain enthusiasm, but I just wanted to point that out.

[Glice]

Oh, and incidentally, I can't abide Tool.

[atsonicpark]

infinitemusic reminds me a lot of atari 2600.

[Glice]

Really? Atari was hysterical, and funny, and sometimes quite smart. None of which really applies to infinitemusic.

[atsonicpark]

Oh, I just meant the negativity.

Atari was one of the darkest posters on the board.. I always imagined him as brooding away.

[Glice]

Yeah - I think Atari was more engaging because you at least knew that he was enthusiastic about a lot of things, and was pretty good at sharing torrents and so on. Nothing I was ever interested in, but that's hardly the point.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

yeah their musicianship is just plain average, none of them can play their instruments or write songs...

you may not like them but you should be able to appreciate that they are all fucking brilliant musicians at the very least

Adam Jones isn't brilliant at all.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

yeah their musicianship is just plain average, none of them can play their instruments or write songs...

you may not like them but you should be able to appreciate that they are all fucking brilliant musicians at the very least

a brilliant musician or musicians whose output sounds like TOOL is like a brilliant physicist who only works on how to make plastic bags for pooper scoopers

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

a brilliant musician or musicians whose output sounds like TOOL is like a brilliant physicist who only works on how to make plastic bags for pooper scoopers

Thankfully, Adam has done much work outside of Tool. His guitar offerings via the Melvins have been outstanding. Especially on that Pigs of the Roman Empire record. Really wish Noiseland Arcade would release something (a side project featuring Adam and Buzz).

All of Maynard's side shit has been garbage. Even the stuff w/ Lustmord has sucked cat box.

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

But yeah, ICP fucking rulz. JUGGALOS FOR LIFE WOOP WOOP.

ICP = dog beats
TOOL = dog shit

 

Did you hear that they're going to be in the next episode of Aqua Teen Hunger Force?

[atsonicpark]

Originally Posted by Derek

Adam Jones isn't brilliant at all.

Derek, I'm going to have to politely/respectfully disagree here. Adam Jones isn't a flashy guitarist, but he always knows exactly what to play for maximum emotional impact. A song like Eulogy has layers and layers of interesting little guitar things going on. He really is good at constructing some really well-made songs. I like his sense of restraint, very uncommon for a popular heavy rock act. The most talented guitarists know when not to play. Everything he plays is quite simple, but, well... that doesn't really matter (at the top of my head, every Joy Division song is easy as fuck, but it's all memorable).

I'll agree that there are a few too many dumb drop-d riffs, but 75% of System of a Down's self-titled album is the same way, and it still rocks. I see it more as Tool just playing down to their audience.

They're a creative, interesting little mainstream rock band. Aenima is probably better than 90% of SY's catalogue.

[pbradley]

I'll leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm2glu3WLGk

8-piece koto ensemble performance of "Lateralus"

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Aenima is probably better than 90% of SY's catalogue.

 

[Toilet & Bowels]

tool are just crap

[Dr.Mambo]

Aenima is good and lateralus is decent. I guess undertow is a good album. Don't like 10,000 days. I like puscifer best out if all Maynard's projects

[Severian]

I really think they're overrated. Puscifer is NOT funny, and brings to mind the most obscenely bad "look at me!" butt metal with its even more irritating take on the Primus "thing" ... Their videos are embarrassing to watch. I imagine they hit home with many a pimple faced Midwestern high school outcast, but hopefully those kids go on to discover Melvins, Rodan, Unwound, and other bands that make every project associated with Tool sound equally bland and sophomoric.

I think there are some interesting musical moments on Aenima, specifically "Jimmy" and "H" ... But I think the interesting things they managed to do were accidents. A Perfect Circle is SO AWFUL. That band sounded like a mashup of Incubus and Creed. And they really pock-marked a NIN show for me back in the day by boring the fuck out of me.

I see them as a relentlessly juvenile band that has squeaked by with some of the more "highbrow" music types by throwing bits and pieces of "artsy" experimentation and references to philosophy into their unbelievably tepid, Luke warm vanilla ass songs.

I don't mean to be a hater here. I've tried to be fair about the OK music they've released and not focus only on the complete and total shit, but I can't do it anymore. If I find myself feeling in the mood to listen to Aenima (which I was quite taken with when it first hit), all I'd have to do is think about the fact that the first song is called fucking "Stinkfist" and the urge would die. Took brings to mind high school boys ... The kind of high school boys who play bloody knuckles and like anything that's obscene. Like that goddamn wrench-penis Tool t-shirt. Ugh. Ughhhhh! So. Goddamn. Unfunny.

Who needs Took when you have Spiderland and Leaves Turn inside You and Rusty? Fuck Tool.

[Severian]

Oh, I forgot that Tool fans tend to be absolutely intolerant of anyone who doesn't love Tool. That's so charming.

Feel the wrath of my pale, acne-covered stare as I contemplate shooting you with my dad's hunting rifle!!! Beware the flecks of spit that are bound to shoot out from my braces as I curse you for not liking the almighty band that releases like one album a decade and refuses to die!!!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

loved AEnima for a week when it came. never bothered since. they're boring and have no groove. shitty prog metal with no swagger. you can throw limp bisquick and korn into this category too. hell, just dump the whole rageful late 90's rape intent alt rock metal waste into my bag of disgust so I can tie it to cinder blocks and throw it in the nearest river.

*hocks loogie and spits*


good riddance!!!!

Hah!

Tool's a different kind of bad than Korn and Bizkit though. APC, with their Incubus like drums and vocals that makes me want to deafen myself, are more in that family of "kinda-heavy-rawk" ... Tool is the best of the related projects, but they're still utter shit. Just awful.

My girlfriend loves them

[noisereductions]

I like Tool just fine. I'm not a "fan." But I like them.