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Hey. I don't know what that last paragraph has to do with anything. "Ignorant, idealistic, suburban, USA hating"( LOVE that one), hipster kids..??? I'm annoyed more by the hateful, conservative, "Fox news is real news", superficially compassionate, head up their ass, walmart is good, never been to the big city types, personally.
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france had its share of the problems earlier this year.. so did australia.. social problems are one thing, but heightening them to a racist gridlock is something else..
there are no black and white areas regarding these situations, and people just have to be aware of how manipulated their message becomes..
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True, it's not black and white. Everything is political nowadays too. What fuels alot of this anger is how divided the country is, and specifically the right. The traditional conservative viewpoint is to put a halt on immigration and especially the illegal variant. But now, that is being sort of pushed to the side and ignored by the Bushie conservatisim, b/c their new focus is on the eternal bottom line of greed, money. This side are the same people who push outsourcing..again, Bush influence. So of course, the Bushies can now show how compassionate they r on this, and sell it as such. But it is hollow for the most part.
Don't be swayed. If we do not control the borders and account for illegals etc.,the driving force and the trend will continue to be to drive the cost of workers down. I work at a major publishing firm, and we have just set up two major pipelines, circuits, to Indian firms to begin sending heavy data about our operations. We're hearing outsourcing. It's the same principle. Lowest costs possible for business, and american workers getting axed. What kills me is they say they're doing what's best for the company AND it's employees. haha. But how's that, by becoming ex-employees? I got off on a tangeant, but it's relative, nonetheless. We have got to figure out a way to thwart this trend of lowest cost priority, or else it's no more middle class, and low, barely liavable, wages for american workers and ultimately everyone; immigrants, illegals included, save the top echalon of tax break millionaires. That's the trend.
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Haha! Nothing's changed.
'Rhys Chatam' is an idiot. Know nothing know it all. You were right though, when on the old board you said anal sex was overrated. I agree with you on that. Hahaha! |
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Well well elix it, about time you joined us.
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Think about it. If you truly care. Think about the fact that hiring illegal immigrants is a violation of the federal rackeetering act for a reason. It hurts Americans & the illegal immigrants themselves. Companies that hire or go out seeking to hire illegal immigrants are enabling them to stay illegal, so naturally, it has bled over into a problem with too many immigrants either not bothering or making the sacrifices of time necessary to become legal citizens. what part of reality don't you get exactly? Quote:
I understand that what protesters are protesting about. They want unionization basically. It's not going to happen. Naturalization & a road to recovery might hopefully might be on the horizon but the rich business owners of America that exploit illegal immigrants are never going to give them the security of unionized workers. To do so would take away the perceived advantages of hiring them in the first place. If these protests raise consciousness about the issue or the intrinisic value of human rights, then that's great. But pack me another hit in the peace pipe, because that's probably just dreaming, truth be told. I never wrote or tried to imply that I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants. Instead the very first thing I wrote was: Quote:
then i begin with an analogy that I prefaced by writing it was "sort of an unfair comparison, but" & a certain poster deliberately several posts later tried to take issue with me as not be sympathetic to the plight of illegal immigrants & all the varying extenuating circumstances of their life. I actually bring factual information into the debate & most of the rest of you just are blowing each other off trying to look good or goofing off at my expense. My posting history at this board & the old one demonstrates that I truly have passion & concern, whereas a certain other poster's demonstrates that he is a petty individual. Think about that. Think about the fact that you are ignore listed & that I will not mention you if you do not mention me. You are free to quote & provide rebuttal, but the little flame games you pathetically enjoy so much are finshed. Keep my name out of your posts other than as a quote or making a valid, reasonable point. Quote:
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I prefer Silly Lube
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Mm hmm, had to get my beauty rest. |
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as long as we live in a society which values the cost of workers above the standard of living, then we will live in an extremely divided society, and a House divide against itself shall not stand! our society must embrace empathy before politics, and look at people as just that people, before they add on political/racial/imperialistic labels and overlook the eyes of the people being classified. People, I just want you all to see that the glory in yr hearts was put inside you for a reason, so dont waste it on the games of this generation.
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Really cool sentiment there, but let me make sure I'm reading you correctly. Your plan is to wait on some eventual evolutionary heightening of human consciousness? Quote:
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oh no, but it would be unwise to let the cat of the bag.
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speaking of other planets, the United States is spending about a billion dollars a year developing a program to convert Mars into a green, habitable planet within 100 years. this is not a joke, this is truth! maybe they will rename it planet shithead when all of the ignorant Amerikkkans move there to escape from the Jews, Wetbacks and Niggers of the land in which they stole, destroyed and now it seems plan to abandon.
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Well I say this because you're always a day late, dollar short. You bring up "old news" as if it just came out today. So I even question whether or not you infact do have a degree because you don't sound educated enough in Political Science. Either that or you probably got your degree online? |
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Ricechex, don't you have some KKK rally or some GOP convention to go to? I'm sorry if we're hating on your "favorite president", but he's an idiot and someone's gotta set you straight. |
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So, the "right" is divided, but not the "left"? WOW! Sounds like you got "RATHER RIPPED" on your so-called "degree" in Political Science. Did you get it in like 9 weeks? Conservative Republicans do not want to "hault" immigration. That is retarded. So obviously you're still probably getting your "online degree" because you don't know shit about "Conservative Republicans". Bush's stance is not really even aligned with all conservative republicans(and you have a degree in what???). What Bush wanted was a system of working cards for those here illegally, not what most conservatives really wanted. As far as "outsourcing", well it was actually Bill Clinton who got America on the ball rolling in outsourcing. Better go back and get your money because those online degrees don't teach you jack. It's not so much of a "money" issue as it is with an "ethics" issue, and I think that's where you lost understanding of just why the Republicans disagree with Democrats on this issue. And if I recall, even Japan was outsourcing before America and the rest of the world started to outsource, so "outsourcing" was inevitable...it isn't a choice, it was mandatory for survival, plain and simple. Would you really pay for a Ford Taurus if it costed $20,000 over a Honda Civic that costed $16,000 even if you knew the Honda car had better crash ratings, was safer, was more fuel efficient, and had less defects? And that's why "outsourcing" in America exist. You may have a shitty online degree, but you don't know shit about Economics, my friend. |
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Yeah, old news. Unfortunately, so much ill is happening with our govt. powers, things like wiretapping american's illegally, outing CIA agents, and failure to find WMD that lead to unjust, illegal wars, are sadly, just "old news".
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