[Rob Instigator]

my chemical romance is the single most pathetic shit I ahve seen on the TV in the past year.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

what benifits do i get from being happy? i seriously dont give a fuck man.

give whiskey, and put on 1000 leaves, and im okaye.

other than my mom and a few friends thats all i really care about.

but even it really donest mean anything when ya look a t the big picture.'

im here simply cause my parents fucked, and they hated eachother even then.

i dont have a fuckin dad.

my mom and her husband barely get by.

im on my own dude.

God, you're gonna fuckin' LOVE the new Funeral For a Friend album.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

even worse than bush?

that fuck is just pathetic. my chem romance are itchin for an asswhuppin

[demonrail666]

I dunno what you're problem is today Swa(y). You're turning into some kind of weird Emoboy parody. All that 'I'm on my own', Kurt's 'beautiful chaos', feel my pain shit. Act your age.

[contrelefuckingsexisme]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

even worse than bush?

i think they're even.

[Rob Instigator]

schwa?

 

[Everyneurotic]

hahahahaha, this thread is stupid.

Diesel: i was going to put the alice in chains unplugged, at least some songs as you said, over now still gets me a little sad, but i'm not too fond of the guitar sound they had so i didn't think they completely pulled it off.

and most sonic youth are un-unpluggedable, remember bridge school '91? they could do an acoustic show of their last three albums but can you imagine anything from s/t /confusion/bad moon/evol/most of sister/most of ddn/most of goo/most of dirty...why go farther?

i just thought this thread was about how contrele liked the korn unplugged and they are not going to get any cred because they aren't as awesome cool as nirvana, i agree even if i think that unplugged shit is a joke, especially in korn's case. there's this double standard. but contrele, by discussing this, you are instantly talking about nirvana and bringing them up again, as you said it, stop living in the past.

[zedius]

Originally Posted by contrelefuckingsexisme

but even people who really give shit about music or art can find something "good" in what he does.
i've talked about it with one important music producer here.
i cannot find anything good in a Creed song but I certainly believe there's something good in what Justin Timberlake does.
I wouldn't buy him an album, I wouldn't go to one of his shows, I wouldn't even care to watch an special tv show about him.
but when you are in a 15 year old birthday party all you get is miranda! (a pop band from argentina), justin timberlake, black eyed peas. Boredom and the fact that I don't like dancing made me realise over the years that all those kind of teenie boppie bands have at least ONE good thing per song. ONE and only ONE good effect or good arrangement.

Well, I can find something good in just about everything including Creed (I honestly kinda like my own prison), but that doesn't make it artistically valuable. It's light entertainment, and people eat that shit like fast food.

Actually, that might be a good analogy. Fast food may strive to serve healthy choices or exotic fajita wraps, but it's still fast food. There is nothing interesting there to an actual chef. So what if McDonalds has a new and successful ad campaign? Heh heh... featuring a Justin Timberlake "song".

I really like the guitar riff in this slipknot song, but it's still straight from an extra value menu for people who don't want to splurge on King Diamond. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdY4bhsDiU

[zedius]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

He appeals to me in a different way than, say, Ravi Shankar or whoeever you want to insert there who has anymore of a different approach to making music-making than Timberlake might have.
Careful when you say that he appeals only to people who like to dance, because you are making a statement without having anything realistic to back it up with. Brian McMahan (of Slint and Forcarnation fame) has always wanted to make an r n b album and Steve Stapleton of Nurse With Wound has made a Hip Hop album.Both genres are carefully packaged to be sold, and both of them are what you would easily call people who give quite the shit about art.

Timberlake doesn't make music. Some producers do, who are so hot rite now, so a record company has a meeting with Timberlake and they decide to go with Timbaland for the single.

I don't think R&B or hip hop are genres inherently packaged to be sold. I don't think the funk brothers or NWA were just trying to sell. I don't think the Roots are, either. They do sell, but they put their heart in it and because of this they sell less than 50 cent. Old motown shit is amazing and inspiring. The four tops is some of the best music I've ever heard. Usher, not so much. As the market opens up and these things become more profitable, quality goes down. It becomes about selling as many units as possible. This is a fact. There are focus groups and machines to listen for promising hit-like qualities. That means the music is homogonized. Trim the fat, figure out what works, what gives us the numbers, sell it.

[Everyneurotic]

yeah, it's sad; i still have a magazine add for the release of the album up in my room, it has the scene from the stage, with the band playing, and above it there's a group pic but layne isn't there, but the pic itself is on top of layne's shadow.

that unplugged compensates for emotion, i need to listen/see it again sometime soon.

[zedius]

My girlfiriend got the Alice in Chains unplugged dvd recently. I agree, it's really good. Layne looks invisible in it. It's sad, but powerful.

[Savage Clone]

swa(y) is in rare form today.
Wow.
Just...wow.
This is even better than when he lectured Pookie and myself on the "history" of hardcore.

Originally Posted by zedius

Timberlake doesn't make music. Some producers do, who are so hot rite now, so a record company has a meeting with Timberlake and they decide to go with Timbaland for the single.

I don't think R&B or hip hop are genres inherently packaged to be sold. I don't think the funk brothers or NWA were just trying to sell. I don't think the Roots are, either. They do sell, but they put their heart in it and because of this they sell less than 50 cent. Old motown shit is amazing and inspiring. The four tops is some of the best music I've ever heard. Usher, not so much. As the market opens up and these things become more profitable, quality goes down. It becomes about selling as many units as possible. This is a fact. There are focus groups and machines to listen for promising hit-like qualities. That means the music is homogonized. Trim the fat, figure out what works, what gives us the numbers, sell it.

Right, let's be a bit more specific, then.Timberlake might or might not make his own music for all we know here (and both of us certainly don't hang around with him to ever find out about the truth), but even if he doesn't and he only has to rely on a team of producers to use the magic wand, i'm sure he has a saying in what gets put out under his name because,after all, the finished product doesn't make me think of something that has simply been made by a few pushings of some buttons and a handshake.He is a pop star, and he is more sincere than most in that he makes it obvious to the point of not making it obvious that he intends to make money out of his debatable lack of talent, something that i appreciate more than someone who strives for some kind of artistic purity but ultimately sounds and acts like they're in it for the money too.As for Hip Hop and R&B being genres that are carefully packaged to sell, it is something about both that i really admire because it only means that (general or non general quality of some of the records aside) some work is being put into it regardless of my liking what i hear or not.As it happens, i love both Hip Hop and R&B when I think they communicate something to me.When they don't,well, whatever.

[noumenal]

 

[Rob Instigator]

junkies singing about junk have a long history in the annals of music.


depeche Mode's CLEAN is one of my faves

Clean
The cleanest I've been
An end to the tears
And the in-between years
And the troubles I've seen
Now that I'm clean
You know what I mean
I've broken my fall
Put an end to it all
I've changed my routine
Now I'm clean
I don't understand
What destiny's planned
I'm starting to grasp
What is in my own hands
I don't claim to know
Where my holiness goes
I just know that I like
What is starting to show

Sometimes

Clean
The cleanest I've been
An end to the tears
And the in-between years
And the troubles I've seen
Now that I'm clean
You know what I mean
I've broken my fall
Put an end to it all
I've changed my routine
Now I'm clean

As years go by
All the feelings inside
Twist and they turn
As they ride with the tide
I don't advise
And I don't criticise
I just know what I like
With my own eyes

Sometimes

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by noumenal

 

I have this book. read it twioce. good stuff.

[zedius]

Who is Aaron Copland?

[noumenal]

Originally Posted by Diesel

listen for catchy tunes. book closed. what the fuck?! haahj books on how to....ahh fuck hahahasdk.

Hahaha, I couldn't have asked for a better reaction.

Originally Posted by zedius

Who is Aaron Copland?

I'm not taking that bait - I don't believe for a second that you don't know who Aaron Copland is.

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by zedius

Who is Aaron Copland?

Noumenal is totally going to beat you up now.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by noumenal

Hahaha, I couldn't have asked for a better reaction.


I'm not taking that bait - I don't believe for a second that you don't know who Aaron Copland is.

he's some dead dude who was made famous by emerson lake & palmer, right?