[demonrail666]

I think that the DNC has stood by Biden solely because they see him as having the best chance of beating Trump, but that a deal has been struck where, assuming he does win, he will stand down (I'd predict quite early) during his 1st term so Kamala becomes president by default.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

It's Fox News' line, verbatim. Others in the same alternative facts sphere (Michelle Bachmann and this board's own putrefied BP, to name just two) have said or strongly insinuated Biden is a Trojan horse for Black Marxism (whatever the fuck that is). So there.

I certainly don't equate Kamala with 'Black Marxism', or any other kind of marxism for that matter. Quite the contrary, I'd put her further to the right (relative to the L-R spectrum within the DNC) than Biden. Regardless of what Trump or some within the Right wing media might be saying, she's not there to provide the Left with a path back in but to shut them out completely. Dropping them like a stone the moment she takes power.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

something

therefore, in view of these conspiratorial speculations and fantastical scenarios, the logical conclusion is: support a moral degenerate maniac and the forces of fascism. but of course! it makes perfect sense...

[Antagon]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

therefore, in view of these conspiratorial speculations and fantastical scenarios, the logical conclusion is: support a moral degenerate maniac and the forces of fascism. but of course! it makes perfect sense...

You know, it always bothered me how in The Dark Knight Harvey Dent was so easily convinced to go apeshit by the guy who was responsible for his predicament. Like how was anything an obvious lunatic told him so appealing he'd go from a somewhat measured - if a bit absolutist and misguided - district attorney to some cuckoo reactionary murderer flipping coins? I thought it was something for which I had to suspend my disbelief a bit too much in an otherwise solidly executed movie (had other small problems as well, but I do agree it's a good movie, don't get your fangasms in a twist). But looking at the absolutely bonkers reasoning some people seem to have for supporting the likes of Trump and the insane theories they are willing to swallow without resistance, I'm starting to see how that scene is probably closer to real life than I'd have given it credit for. Man, I don't recognize this place anymore sometimes.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Antagon

You know, it always bothered me how in The Dark Knight Harvey Dent was so easily convinced to go apeshit by the guy who was responsible for his predicament. Like how was anything an obvious lunatic told him so appealing he'd go from a somewhat measured - if a bit absolutist and misguided - district attorney to some cuckoo reactionary murderer flipping coins? I thought it was something for which I had to suspend my disbelief a bit too much in an otherwise solidly executed movie (had other small problems as well, but I do agree it's a good movie, don't get your fangasms in a twist). But looking at the absolutely bonkers reasoning some people seem to have for supporting the likes of Trump and the insane theories they are willing to swallow without resistence, I'm starting to see how that scene is probably more close to real life than I'd have given it credit for. Man, I don't recognize this place anymore sometimes.

The Internet is your friend. Kind of. Flashback to 2015 (!):

 

https://whatwouldbaledo.com/2015/08/...-to-the-joker/

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Antagon

But looking at the absolutely bonkers reasoning some people seem to have for supporting the likes of Trump and the insane theories they are willing to swallow without resistance, I'm starting to see how that scene is probably closer to real life than I'd have given it credit for. Man, I don't recognize this place anymore sometimes.

i don’t know about batman movies, but here, i think it’s not so much “bonkers reasoning” towards a conclusion, but rather it’s reaching for a rationalization after the fact.

people get seduced by fascism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, etc. everyone has tendencies that have nothing to do with reason. reason only shows up afterwards to bolster a narrative fallacy. people need an “explanation,” so they construct one.

anyway... it’s fucked up.

[LifeDistortion]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I think that the DNC has stood by Biden solely because they see him as having the best chance of beating Trump, but that a deal has been struck where, assuming he does win, he will stand down (I'd predict quite early) during his 1st term so Kamala becomes president by default.

Hm, I think I remember when they said the same thing about Trump, saying that he'd willingly step down so that Pence could be the President. When in history has a elected President of the United states ever said, 'Thanks for voting for me, now here's your President' and given the VP the presidency?

[Antagon]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i don’t know about batman movies, but here, i think it’s not so much “bonkers reasoning” towards a conclusion, but rather it’s reaching for a rationalization after the fact.

Oh, I just chose that analogy because it's a piece of media I'm fairly certain a lot of people on this board have watched. It also seemed apt to me to compare that phenomenon to something firmly rooted in a highly fictional realm to convey just how absurd things have gotten in real life.

I completely agree that it's mostly a reaching for something in post. In order to get to that point, there had to be some sort of spark/inciting incidents in the first place though. And it's that road from being somewhat frustrated about certain goings-on to full-on support of something so obviously generated to prey on people's fears and born out of malicious intent. There's this almost meme-like analogy of the flock of sheep being mildly frustrated with the farmer, so they decide to vote for the wolf. That's how some people's rationalizations look like on display. And it's just baffling.

Though a good amount of those partaking in this farce are not in fact sheep taken in by false promises and a flimsy charade. Some are in fact aware and willing collaborators. Which is even worse.

[Skuj]

Yes!!

A recent Trump Ad uses Fauci, and completely out of context. (Of course!)

And Fauci, God bless him, is not taking that lying down.

(Shall we predict how long Fauci lasts?)

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by LifeDistortion

Hm, I think I remember when they said the same thing about Trump, saying that he'd willingly step down so that Pence could be the President. When in history has a elected President of the United states ever said, 'Thanks for voting for me, now here's your President' and given the VP the presidency?

Well the transition would never be made that crudely but I stand by my prediction that if Biden does win he won't see out his 1st term and will most likely hand power over to Harris quite early on. Even if you don't buy the dementia claims and putting aside any encounters he's had with Trump, does he honestly look to you like someone with the strength to go toe-to-toe with Putin, or Xi Jinping or even the more radical wing within his own party?

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Well the transition would never be made that crudely but I stand by my prediction that if Biden does win he won't see out his 1st term and will most likely hand power over to Harris quite early on. Even if you don't buy the dementia claims and putting aside any encounters he's had with Trump, does he honestly look to you like someone with the strength to go toe-to-toe with Putin, or Xi Jinping or even the more radical wing within his own party?

Fuck it. This is verbatim Faux News, as Soup Nazi has already alluded. I'm sending you to Byteme and Skunk.

[!@#$%!]

fucking tragic

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Even if you don't buy the dementia claims and putting aside any encounters he's had with Trump, does he honestly look to you like someone with the strength to go toe-to-toe with Putin, or Xi Jinping or even the more radical wing within his own party?

This is pathetic.

1.- Yes, Biden seems more than strong to me to be president for four years.

2.- You know who has NOT had the strength to go toe-to-toe with Putin, or Xi Jinping or even his own crazy-ass murderous supporters from the far right (who, by the way, don't have even a remote equivalent among the leftiest of Democrats)? DONALD FUCKING TRUMP. Remember Helsinki? Remember how, despite all his ineffective "easy to win trade war", he ate Xi's bullshit about Korea and has said he admires him for managing to engrave his thoughts into China's Constitutions (state and party), freeing him from term limits to his rule?

Some of us thought you were better than this. Clearly we were just focusing on the football thread.

[Debaser]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

We can all point to exceptions but you'll have a hard time convincing me that traditional working class areas (at least those outside of major cities) aren't on the whole feeling alienated by what they perceive as an increasingly Woke agenda taking hold of traditional Left wing and centrist parties.



I tend to agree, and I say that as someone who was for a while quite on board with a lot of what Spiked was doing. I continue to endorse them calling out the SJW stuff in terms of what it's doing to the Left, but that's no reason for them to turn a blind eye to the incompetences of the Tories right now (especially when they're becoming infected with the Woke virus themselves). But if you're talking about alternative Left wing media, the only other one I can think of that has an equivalent impact is Novara Media, which epitomises everything that I hate about this current identity-politics obsessed Left, so I'm still much more likely to follow Spiked than I am anything else, albeit with nowhere near the same enthusiasm that I used to.

Mate, the right are also very good at 'identity politcs' also, infact even more so imo.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Debaser

Mate, the right are also very good at 'identity politcs' also, infact even more so imo.

indeed, very much so. case in point:

https://mobile.twitter.com/giselefet...19072553783297

[EVOLghost]

https://youtu.be/Qg0pO9VG1J8




SNL really hit it on the head with this one.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

https://youtu.be/Qg0pO9VG1J8




SNL really hit it on the head with this one.

haaahaaahaaaahaaaaaa

funny but also stomach-churning

those people are among us

[Savage Clone]

I didn’t think facts were important to Republicans these days.

[h8kurdt]

Trump tweets parody website thinking it's real

And there some people adamant that Biden is the idiot.

[Silver ✴ Rocket]

If you look how Biden enriched himself and his family through 50 years of "public service" I think we can all agree he's no idiot.