[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

you can go back ahead and talk about yr boring trap lame rap shit taco shit Future and king shit loser oh shit, Young Thug crap.

I love you guys but I hate u guys for liking diarrhea shit.

never gonna be down with Atlanta ignorance.

fun is fun.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Severian

I

When I park my Range Rover
Slightly scratch your Corolla
Okay, I smashed your Corolla
I'm hanging on a hangover
Five years we been over
Ask me why I came over
One more hit and I can own ya
One more fuck and I can own ya

.

sorry my man, but these are WACK rhymes.

Rover/Corolla/corolla/hangover ??????

over/over/own ya/own ya?

WEAK

WEAAKKKKKKK

[Rob Instigator]

Kanye raps like a man with a 3 inch boner.....

[louder]

So TLOP might've been a mixtape and THE REAL ALBUM is coming out soon. Maybe there is a God after all..

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

sorry my man, but these are WACK rhymes.

Rover/Corolla/corolla/hangover ??????

over/over/own ya/own ya?

WEAK

WEAAKKKKKKK

Well, he's not really "a rapper" ... I just read an interesting piece on Quietus about Kanye the Producer vs. Kanye the Artist vs. Kanye the Rapper. He shed lyrical rap a long time ago in favor of something less restrictive. I'm not saying he's the best rapper in the world, because he's not, but he's also not going for that.

Yeah, rhyming a word with itself is not a great move for rappers. But the lyric works because the important parts are in between the rhymes. Telling a lie, admitting to telling a lie, and not just any lie, but a major one. There's a conversational element to the lyric that I just love, as though you can see him talking to some stone-faced woman at the front door of her house, saying "slightly scratched" her car and then confessing the truth, "ok, so I smashed it,"
when he sees the dead-eyed look on her face.

That's how I see it anyway. I never claimed Kanye was Rakim, man. Just because the rhymes aren't pristine doesn't mean the lyrics don't have a uniquely human feel to them. (Shrug)

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Kanye raps like a man with a 3 inch boner.....

What does that even mean? Eminem raps like a man with a really big boner that we wants everyone to see. His lyrics are still gutwrenchingly awful. The Game kinda raps like a guy who needs Viagra to get a boner at all, but he still kicks fucking ass (most of the time).

Kanye *makes music* like a man who *makes very good music* ... That's what matters to me.

If you're interested in hearing Ye rap like a fucking God, listen to No More Parties in LA. Or just about anything from his first three albums. Or "Gorgeous". The man's done quite well for himself for not being an actual rapper. Or not *just* a rapper. One of the reasons I like Kanye in a way that I probably will never like super proficient lyrical executioners like Kendrick is because he's both not a rapper and much more than a rapper. It's his hand that has been behind some of the most well produced singles and albums of the past decade.

[Severian]

I was thinking about this the other day on the way home... I trust Kanye West's intuition, artistic vision and skill as a producer so much that if Kurt Fucking Cobain were to rise from the dead tomorrow and Nirvana reunited for a 2016 solo album, and for some reason asked for my input as to who they should work with in the studio, I'd point them to Kanye West.

I honestly think Kanye has such an excellent ear and such on-point sonic instincts that he would be more likely to make an authentic sounding Nirvana album in 2016 than Butch Vig or Steve Albini. This is probably the SYG equivalent of drawing a penis on my forhead with permanent marker, but whatever. That's how I feel.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

So TLOP might've been a mixtape and THE REAL ALBUM is coming out soon. Maybe there is a God after all..

You're driving me crazy here dude. Where did you hear this? Should I refollow Kanye on Twitter? What do you mean it "might have been" a mixtape?

Anyway, if it's a mixtape (which is, let's face it, exactly what it is at this point, since it's basically fucking free, has no physical release, and is not for sale) then maybe you could go a bit easier on it?

If it's a mixtape that puts it in with Can't Tell Me Nothing, "The Graduate" Graduation Mixtape, Freshman Adjustment, etc. all of which have their outstanding moments as well as tons of super weak half-baked shit. You know, a while ago I said something about how you might as well consider it a mixtape, in which case it's pretty much the best mixtape ever made.

Anyway, I hope you're right ONLY because that would mean MORE MUSIC!!!

[louder]

Originally Posted by Severian

You're driving me crazy here dude. Where did you hear this? Should I refollow Kanye on Twitter? What do you mean it "might have been" a mixtape?

Anyway, if it's a mixtape (which is, let's face it, exactly what it is at this point, since it's basically fucking free, has no physical release, and is not for sale) then maybe you could go a bit easier on it?

If it's a mixtape that puts it in with Can't Tell Me Nothing, "The Graduate" Graduation Mixtape, Freshman Adjustment, etc. all of which have their outstanding moments as well as tons of super weak half-baked shit. You know, a while ago I said something about how you might as well consider it a mixtape, in which case it's pretty much the best mixtape ever made.

Anyway, I hope you're right ONLY because that would mean MORE MUSIC!!!

http://pitchfork.com/news/63730-kany...s-in-new-song/

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

http://pitchfork.com/news/63730-kany...s-in-new-song/

Yeah, I read this this morning. Doesn't say anything about mixtapes or unfinished albums though.

[Severian]

@Rob Instigator / Kanye can't rap, etc.

Penitentiary chances, the devil dances
And eventually answers to the call of Autumn
All of them fallin' for the love of ballin'
Got caught with thirty rocks, the cop look like Alec Baldwin
Inter century anthems based off inner city tantrums
Based off the way we was branded
Face it, Jerome get more time than Brandon
And at the airport they check all through my bag and
Tell me that it's random
But we stay winning, this week has been a bad massage
I need a happy ending and a new beginning
And a new fitted and some job opportunities that's lucrative

This the real world, homie, school finished
They done stole your dreams, you dunno' who did it
I treat the cash the way the government treats AIDS
I won't be satisfied til all my niggas get it, get it?

...

Is hip hop, just a euphemism for a new religion
The soul music for the slaves that the youth is missing
This is more than just my road to redemption
Malcolm West had the whole nation standing at attention
As long as I'm in Polo's smilin' they think they got me
But they would try to crack me if they ever see a black me
I thought I chose a field where they couldn't sack me
If a nigga ain't running shootin' a jump or running a track meet
But this pimp is, at the top of mount Olympus
Ready for the World's game, this is my Olympics
We make 'em say ho cause the game is so pimpish
Choke a southpark writer with a fishstick
I insisted to get up offa this dick
And these drugs, niggas cant resist it
Remind me of when they tried to have Ali enlisted
If I ever wasn't the greatest nigga, I must have missed it!

...

need more drinks and less lights
And that American Apparal girl in just tights
She told the director she tryna get in a school
He said "take them glasses off and get in the pool"
It's been a while since I watched the tube
Cause like a crip said,
"I got way too many blues for any more bad news"
I was looking at my resume feeling real fresh today
They rewrite history I don't believe in yesterday
And what's a black beetle anyway, a fucking roach
I guess that's why they got me sitting in fucking coach
But God said I need a different approach
Cause people is looking at me like I'm sniffing coke
It ain't funny anymore try different jokes
Tell 'em hug and kiss my ass, x and o
And kiss the ring while they at it,
do my thing while I got it
Play strings for the dramatic
Ending of that wack shit
Act like I ain't had a belt in two classes
I ain't got it I'm coming after whoever who has it
I'm coming after whoever, who has it!?
You blowing up, that's good, fantastic
That y'all, its like that y'all
I don't really give a fuck about it at all
Cause the same people that tried to black ball me
Forgot about two things, my black balls

[louder]

Originally Posted by Severian

Yeah, I read this this morning. Doesn't say anything about mixtapes or unfinished albums though.

The amateur cover art, the half assed lyrics, songs that sound unfinished, the bad mixing, last minute tracklist changes, the fact it's a Tidal exclusive release, etc.. all make me believe that TLOP was just a mixtape. The new song already sounds like it's on par with Ye's standard. He said he's "already working on the next one" and there are rumors over the Internet about him dropping a new album soon.

Only thing I don't get is why Ye didn't tell us about it in advance. Because TLOP actually made me lose respect for him..

[louder]

I was about to hit him up with Gorgeous lyrics too. You beat me to it, Sev.

[louder]

Ok now it's official: https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/702566224304152576

"New album coming this summer" - Kanye

[noisereductions]

weird.

If this really does stay a Tidal exclusive then it'll be like the Free Weezy album to me. (I have never heard that).

[Rob Instigator]

I didn't say Kanye cannot rap or that he has lame lyrics. I said the ones you quoted were WACKKKKKKKK

[Rob Instigator]

http://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/...-life-of-pablo

The A-Z Guide to Every Song Sampled on Life of Pablo

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

The amateur cover art, the half assed lyrics, songs that sound unfinished, the bad mixing, last minute tracklist changes, the fact it's a Tidal exclusive release, etc.. all make me believe that TLOP was just a mixtape. The new song already sounds like it's on par with Ye's standard. He said he's "already working on the next one" and there are rumors over the Internet about him dropping a new album soon.

Only thing I don't get is why Ye didn't tell us about it in advance. Because TLOP actually made me lose respect for him..

Ah man, don't be like that. Everyone agrees it's a sloppy jumble of insanity, but I still fucking love it. Fucking love the shot out of it.
Love the shit out of Ye. Hope he gets the help he needs, hope he does not make 40 tracks with Young Thug. Hope he feels good and gets shot under control.

Album still goes hard as hell. I can't think of anything negative to say about it. But maybe that's because I keep listening to it, and as predicted the songs are starting to take on specific meaning for me.

I almost didn't keep listening to Yeezus. So glad I did. Don't give up on him bro.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

Ok now it's official: https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/702566224304152576

"New album coming this summer" - Kanye

I still don't see anything about TLOP being a mixtape but whatever, that's cool.

Of course, this is coming from the guy who said he was going to release the follow up to Yeezus eight months.... No 12 months... No, a year and a half... scratch that, 3 years later.

[Severian]

I'm listening to FML again... Wondering what you have to say about this track.

I think it's one of his best songs ever. Could have been on Yeezus.