[SONIC GAIL]

Originally Posted by Glice

Limbus Puerorum (children's limbo) was stricken from the records a long time ago, as I understand it. I think in the 1850s?

They must not of let the diosece of St Augustine know that. Good thing they did away with that nonsense. It is still a thought quite integrated into the minds of local caths here. Mostly the over devout.

[SONIC GAIL]

ps i know my spelling sucks i just don't give a fuck anymore

[Glice]

Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL

They must not of let the diosece of St Augustine know that. Good thing they did away with that nonsense. It is still a thought quite integrated into the minds of local caths here. Mostly the over devout.

Yeah - it's one of the interesting things with Catholic Theology; because it's so sprawling and diffuse, often questions like this come down to emphasis. Essentially, there's very little stopping a priest saying Limbus Perurorum still has dogmatic currency, and little stopping someone from side-stepping or emphasising a potential redemption for the child. The question becomes whether a child can truly know sin, and many would prefer to preserve the sanctity of the child's soul.

[SONIC GAIL]

They say we are born with sin I think that is true but I think we learn sin as well

[Rob Instigator]

The catholics say we are born FROM sin, because they see any and all fornication as a sinful act, regardless of wether it is to procreate or just to bust a nut over the upturned nalgas of a lovely lady.
yet, when their priests fuck women, or men, or worse, yet, children, it is ussually treated as a moral lapse, a recoverable sin. just ask for forgiveness..

it is all bullshit.

may as well worship morning dew.

[SONIC GAIL]

I will worship god but no man

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

The catholics say we are born FROM sin, because they see any and all fornication as a sinful act

This is not what the Catholic Church believes.

[Rob Instigator]

If there is a god I do not think he demands worship. I think that is a human construct used to subjugate and control the masses by allowing just one priviledged "class" to be the interlocutor between man and a god.

Buddhism does not count for actual Buddhism denies the existance of any supreme being.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by pbradley

This is not what the Catholic Church believes.

true. I misspoke.

St Augustine first proposed that unbaptised babies go to HELL if they die before baptism, because of original sin, the idea that humans are born sinful, born distant from god, and to some, carry the original sins of adam and eve as hereditary.

[SONIC GAIL]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

If there is a god I do not think he demands worship. I think that is a human construct used to subjugate and control the masses by allowing just one priviledged "class" to be the interlocutor between man and a god.

Buddhism does not count for actual Buddhism denies the existance of any supreme being.

demanding worship defeats the point. Thus we have sin and freewill. When you have chosen the lesser path and then gone back to god in your times of despair it only proves to him that you have CHOSEN him. Not that you have been forced to believe in him.

[Rob Instigator]

tell that to the actual priests/rabbis/Mullahs etc.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL

demanding worship defeats the point. Thus we have sin and freewill. When you have chosen the lesser path and then gone back to god in your times of despair it only proves to him that you have CHOSEN him. Not that you have been forced to believe in him.

It only "proves" that a person needs a crutch.

[knox]

Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL

Tis true indeed the non baptised kids are doomed to an after life in limbo. That is why they baptize u at birth. Plus there is an underlying strong dislike of the Penecostals and Baptists, though this is not often publicly displayed.

so you're basically saying that IM GOING TO HELL you are saying that IM GOING TO HELL.

(i've been to more than one mass)

[jon boy]

because of all his lohan posting i cant take anything rob instigator says seriously.

[knox]

Originally Posted by jon boy

because of all his lohan posting i cant take anything rob instigator says seriously.

its tricky.
i wish i could teach you how to do it.

[knox]

Originally Posted by pbradley

This is not what the Catholic Church believes.

but looking back now the good thing about the catholic church is that you can do ANYTHING. You just have to confess.

[SONIC GAIL]

Originally Posted by knox

so you're basically saying that IM GOING TO HELL you are saying that IM GOING TO HELL.

(i've been to more than one mass)

Im not saying yr going to hell i don't think that way. just pointing out that a lot of people do. Knox will you meet me in heaven?

[SONIC GAIL]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

It only "proves" that a person needs a crutch.

who does'nt? why do you think so many drug addicts cling to him?

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by knox

its tricky.
i wish i could teach you how to do it.

please do, also his propensity to say 'bullshit' and 'dude'.

[knox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrl3n2ZtK2E