steve jobs rip - Page 4

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 03:43 PM

And dont forget, Donald trump is a "job creator" in Vegas, if it werent for him Celine Dion would only be living off the royalties from "My heart will go on", how could anyone be so inhhumane as to wish sadness upon Celine Dion?

!@#$%! · 10.07.2011, 03:51 PM

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Peter jones, he's one of the "Dragons" from Dragons Den, and deserving of several spinal injuries, on account of his abnormally large spine.

As i said, he aint as annoying as those three, but they all exist in the public sphere because people seem to think being rich is automatically respectable.
I finished The Great Gatsby a few weeks ago, these people seem to have read that and thought "yeah, if only he stopped whining about that girl he'd be fucking awesome"

yeah, no, i don't think jobs is admired because he had money, but rather by pushing technology forward to revolutionize the way we live and work, the same way people admired edison or graham bell. yes, jobs wasn't an inventor proper, we live in a different era now, but he was great at marshalling engineers into turning geeky things into simple stuff a dumbfuck could operate, and with his devotion to aesthetics, turning clunky shit into beautiful design.

for the record edison had ahdh and he'd come up with a shittillion ideas but he didn't follow them through-- his minions did that.

anyway, it's the fucking creativity that people are applauding.

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

yeah, no, i don't think jobs is admired because he had money, but rather by pushing technology forward to revolutionize the way we live and work, the same way people admired edison or graham bell. yes, jobs wasn't an inventor proper, we live in a different era now, but he was great at marshalling engineers into turning geeky things into simple stuff a dumbfuck could operate, and with his devotion to aesthetics, turning clunky shit into beautiful design.

for the record edison had ahdh and he'd come up with a shittillion ideas but he didn't follow them through-- his minions did that.

anyway, it's the fucking creativity that people are applauding.

But like you just said, he wasnt creative, he was organised. He took stuff that other people had invented and packaged it in a more appealing way.

People like Thomas Edison and Clive Sinclair have some respect in that there were probably thousands of inventors like them who never made it and toiled away in obscurity, and they probably had a level of dedication that i can admire somewhat. Marketing men will play the percentages and if it doesnt work theyll find another way of making money.

If you wanna make money, fine, just dont expect me to admire you or any of your boilerplate cod-philosophy.

Gulasch Noir · 10.07.2011, 04:08 PM

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It should be obvious this is how the corporate media under corporate fascism reacts when one of their corporate gods dies.

Im sure all of you have your NexT computers still.

It surely is one of the positive effects of Austria's Verbotsgesetz, that people around here pay a bit more attention to the use of terms like "fascism" or "national socialism". Of course, fascism and national socialism are two different things, but don't you think you are grossly minimising (within the meaning of said act), say fascist Italy, by calling the US a fascist country? I guess, that wasn't your intention. It's just something I sometimes witness on this board.

I don't want to come off as a pedant, but fascism seems inappropriate to me.

!@#$%! · 10.07.2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the ikara cult

But like you just said, he wasnt creative, he was organised. He took stuff that other people had invented and packaged it in a more appealing way.

People like Thomas Edison and Clive Sinclair have some respect in that there were probably thousands of inventors like them who never made it and toiled away in obscurity, and they probably had a level of dedication that i can admire somewhat. Marketing men will play the percentages and if it doesnt work theyll find another way of making money.

If you wanna make money, fine, just dont expect me to admire you or any of your boilerplate cod-philosophy.

i don't know what cod-philosophy you're talking about but the little fucker was creative-- creativity is not limited to unpaid artists. it takes imagination and conviction to do the shit he did. yes, his partner wozniak was another fucking brilliant person, but he wasn't a business person, he could have been bought and sold 10 times and never make much.

whether you personally resent jobs or not is another story-- you can hate him all you want but that does not take away his visionary (yes, i said that) leadership of the company he founded, was kicked out of, and then rescued from oblivion--after founding fucking pixar, i might add. even if it's leadership at making money, which you apparently detest, it wasn't by selling herba-life or paper diapers, it was by making some really cool shit and blowing everybody else out of the water with quality and beautiful products. he's no holy man, but fuck, he did change the world, whether we like it or not.

anyway, i don't know why i'm trying to convince you, i'm really not, it doesn't matter.

for the record, i'm not an apple cultist, and i have plenty of criticism for that company, but i'd have to be blind to ignore the changes the stalinist little fucker brought to the world. not bad ones, actually-- for my taste anyway.

Gulasch Noir · 10.07.2011, 04:15 PM

On the topic of Holocaust denial: There's a "secret" Death in June gig in a few weeks. You have to pay in advance and then you get informed about the venue. The keep it secretly "to avoid trouble". I'm still hesitant.

!@#$%! · 10.07.2011, 04:37 PM

oh, and i should have said-- satana was the last rockstar in this shit-hole.

good weekend, pricks.

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i don't know what cod-philosophy you're talking about but the little fucker was creative-- creativity is not limited to unpaid artists. it takes imagination and conviction to do the shit he did. yes, his partner wozniak was another fucking brilliant person, but he wasn't a business person, he could have been bought and sold 10 times and never make much.

whether you personally resent jobs or not is another story-- you can hate him all you want but that does not take away his visionary (yes, i said that) leadership of the company he founded, was kicked out of, and rescued from oblivion--after founding fucking pixar, i might add. even if it's leadership at making money, which you apparently detest, it wasn't by selling herba-life or paper diapers, it was by making some really cool shit and blowing everybody else out of the water with quality and beautiful products. he's no holy man, but fuck, he did change the world, whether we like it or not.

anyway, i don't know why i'm trying to convince you, i'm really not, it doesn't matter.

for the record, i'm not an apple cultist, and i have plenty of criticism for that company, but i'd have to be blind to ignore the changes the stalinist little fucker brought to the world. not bad ones, actually-- for my taste anyway.

I dont wanna make it sound like i only respect people who toil in obscurity, thats a fallacy of course and there are plenty of people who are rich and deserve it. And i dont wanna make it sound like I have any personal dislike for Mr Jobs, im completely indifferent to his achievements and his products, what i really dislike is this cult of personality that gets bestowed on people whos first goal was always making money for themselves - trump, branson etc.

cod-philosophy wise, ive just been bombarded with his quotes and speeches on facebook and the news these last couple of days, its as though Mandela died ffs. So yknow, i find the Thomas Paines and George Orwells of the world a little more inspiring than that.

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 04:53 PM

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Over 300 patents under his name, is that enough creativity for you?
What €£@‰@€£ said.

It's funny, I'm one of the few that occasionally talk about technology on this forum and I'm usually the one criticising Apple.

I didnt know that, actually. It doesnt seem to have been mentioned very much in the news, so fair enough i concede your point. I still think my point about the veneration of his life is valid though, if youre into technology and all that then im sure his death is a significant event for you, like Gianni Versace dying for fashion students i guess. but i still dont think his contribution to the world merits the kind of fawning that ive seen these last couple of days, and his customers fawning over him when they didnt know him in any way is pretty pathetic in my eyes.

!@#$%! · 10.07.2011, 05:03 PM

fakk, i just got a call that my weekend is delayed 30 minutes. very well:

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cod-philosophy wise, ive just been bombarded with his quotes and speeches on facebook

oh, shit-- then you have only the thief zuckerberg to blame-- and yourself for inhabiting the monstrosity he built. and of course your fb riends for being so fucking trite. can't you unfriend the bastards?

Rob Instigator · 10.07.2011, 05:10 PM

"I hate all of you and I want you dead." - Steve Jobs

!@#$%! · 10.07.2011, 05:11 PM

cheeeetooooooooooooooooo

where are the photos from yr show mang

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 05:12 PM

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fakk, i just got a call that my weekend is delayed 30 minutes. very well:

oh, shit-- then you have only the thief zuckerberg to blame-- and yourself for inhabiting the monstrosity he built. and of course your fb riends for being so fucking trite. can't you unfriend the bastards?

My arguement is crumbling around me isnt it.

!@#$%! · 10.07.2011, 05:13 PM

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My arguement is crumbling around me isnt it.

no worries. grab a beer.

Rob Instigator · 10.07.2011, 05:24 PM

fuck all that shit. the main thing Steve Jobs did was learn to market and design, both products and packaging, that white folk find irresistible. "It's so ergonomic!"

Pookie · 10.07.2011, 05:48 PM

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Not for those abhorred by marketing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ

What an utter cock. the ikara cult: afonso has redeemed you.

floatingslowly · 10.07.2011, 06:13 PM

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I heard the biggest jerks were the Atari folks. Seriously.

Amiga4ever.

when Gary Gygax died, I used very harsh language for more than a week. word.

PNPD&Dd204lyfe

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 06:18 PM

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What an utter cock. the ikara cult: afonso has redeemed you.

Fuckin hell, even when i climb down from my arguements something turns up to prove me right. Being right is so hard; i hope you all hold me up as one of the defining men of this age on account of my incredible success at being right. And make a little symbol with my sillhouette too

the ikara cult · 10.07.2011, 06:27 PM

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Not for those abhorred by marketing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmG9jzCHtSQ

I managed to get through about 45 seconds of that before i had to remove my shoulder blades from my pelvis. utter, utter bullshit of the highest order

keep poppin pimples · 10.09.2011, 04:08 AM

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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	fuck all that shit. the main thing Steve Jobs did was learn to market and design, both products and packaging, that white folk find irresistible. "It's so ergonomic!" __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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