[Rob Instigator]

Bunny Wailer told Snoop to go fuck off after snoop admitted keeping whores on a tour bus which followed his tour bus, and pimping the girls out to people on the tour.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Bunny Wailer told Snoop to go fuck off after snoop admitted keeping whores on a tour bus which followed his tour bus, and pimping the girls out to people on the tour.

Now see, that part of the story I unfortunately didn't here : /

After further investigating, I see I can't in anyway support Snoop Lion for running his mouth against the Emperor of Reggae Music, JAH B Bunny Wailer. Dudes in JA would kill Snoop for comments less dissing than this!

”It's like, people take my kindness for weakness,” he told Rolling Stone. “In the 90s, he could have never tried that because I'd have slapped the dog s*** out of his old ass. How dare you? After all I've done for you? How dare you? You wasn't the s*** in the Wailers. You was just one of them: Bob, Peter Tosh, [and] then you. They dead mean more than you do alive. You get the energy? When it should have been, 'Hey, this brother is putting me back in the light; I could possibly get on the road with him, be on his album, eat again. Let me get in line. This is Snoop Dogg; he's already a star.' It should have been, play along with me as opposed to stick me up. I'm gonna give you what you worth, but you not gonna stick me up.”

Snoop doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about. Peter and Bunny were best of friends, and made several albums together after the Wailers broke up. Bunny was an integral part of those first Wailers albums, both writing the music and the lyrics. Further, Peter married Bunny's sister, and Bunny married Bob's cousin, so they literally were all family for many years after the music thing. Also, Bunny doesn't need Snoop to eat, Bunny could sell out arena's across the country headlining big reggae festivals. No, he is not the most popular or drawing name in reggae music, but on a big line-up show Bunny caries enough respect with promoters to get his money.

at least here Snoop reveals what is really going on..

To me, it's a test, to see if I'm really made for this,” he said. “Who else would it come from to make this amount of noise? But guess who stood up in my defense? Rohan, Rita, Stephen, Damian Marley. Rohan went public. He called him Phony Wailer, or whatever he called him. I can't call him that; I don't know him like that. But they do. They know what he after and they love me. If Bob's kids and his wife welcome they arms and say, "You one of the Marleys," then who is Bunny Wailer to say anything?”

This is some Rita bullshit. Rita Marley is the Yoko of the Wailers. After Bob died, she went crazy about all the money. She has had lawyers suing Bunny and Peter (before he died) for years and years, decades now, over rights to mutually owned Wailers music. She has been trying to rob Bunny for so many years, and its gotten needlessly ugly. Some of the Marley children, were unfortunately too young to know the real or even their father, and so they blindly trust their mother's judgment even when she is so in the wrong on this. NOW I see what up, Snoop got buddy-buddy with those Marley brothers, THEY helped convince him to do this Rasta thing (maybe Damien was trying to build on that Nas shit?) and Bunny just wasn't interested in the long run. If Bunny was suing Snoop over the video footage, its in the same vein as his legal issues with Rita, a matter of principle. Bunny knows when he is being exploited commercially, and he ain't not bitch ninja either

[Rob Instigator]

Snoop Lion has always been candid about his love for women and weed, and now, the rapper reveals that he was more than happy to share that love with athletes and entertainers on the road, because in a past life, he was, indeed, a pimp.
"I put an organization together," the Reincarnated rapper tells Rolling Stone's contributing editor Jonah Weiner in the new issue of Rolling Stone. "I did a Playboy tour, and I had a bus follow me with ten bitches on it. I could fire a bitch, f--k a bitch, get a new ho: It was my program. City to city, titty to titty, hotel room to hotel room, athlete to athlete, entertainer to entertainer."

Snoop Lion (previously known to the public as Snoop Dogg), 41, said that his decision to get involved in the scene came from a "fascination," not a desire to make money.
"I'd act like I'd take the money from the bitch, but I'd let her have it," he said of how he ran his organization. "It was never about the money; it was about the fascination of being a pimp … As a kid I dreamed of being a pimp, I dreamed of having cars and clothes and bitches to match. I said, 'F--k it -- I'm finna do it."

The "Ashtrays and Heartbreaks" rapper said his clientele consisted of a number of high-profile athletes (whom he declined to name), who would "come hang out, pick and choose, and whichever [woman] you like comes with a number."
"A lot of athletes bought p---y from me," he added.

[Rob Instigator]

Bunny is the man, and has done more to keep the original spirit of the Wailers alive than anyone else...

[h8kurdt]

What a total douche bag. (Snoop that is)

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Alright, wait. Those quotes I posted while, bad, were a bit out of context. When I read the entire interview, Snoop still comes across as a prick, but less so then in just those quotes.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...ailer-20130424

[louder]

new Gaga artwork for the first single off ARTPOP:

 

oddly, reminds me of:

 

am i the only one??

[Severian]

Wow, Snoop Puddy Tatt Is really gonna run his mouth about a music legend like that? I'm disappointed, but not at all surprised.

All that shit about being a star. That's how diva bitches talk. Bunny has always been on the relative belly side of fame; a cult artist from a genre that has never really been popularized. Still, people know who the fuck He is, and when he plays music, people listen.

Half the Snoop fans, or former Snoop fans, in the world have no idea that he's made a reggae record. Why? Because he's a casino headliner at best. He has money because he used to be a famous musician, but if anyone needs help being notified, it's him. His fans have all either grown up, are serious rap conoisseurs, or love weed, and are "Snoop fans" only insofar as they are "Weed fans"... The kind who make sure everyone knows they love weed by wearing shirts with pictures of weed or weed-relevant people/things/pop culture phenomena on them.

I'd compare him to Woody Harrelson, but Woody still makes movies that are great, and has a following from outside the "weed fan" demographic. I'm talkin loner ass bitches here. Dumb, dumb, adolescent motherfuckers, who think working at Webdy's is just fine as long as it brings in the green, and buys them a ticket to burning man, where they don't listen to music, and just do tons of drugs, only to return acting superior about their experience... In some dude's van, smoking SERIOUS chron (no, I mean like serious serious chron. You don't know man, you weren't at Burning Man).

Fuck that shit. What a fucking tool.

[louder]

yeah, i don't give a fuck about Snoop. The Blue Carpet Treatment was his last good album, and he'll never make another one.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

Wow, Snoop Puddy Tatt Is really gonna run his mouth about a music legend like that? I'm disappointed, but not at all surprised.

All that shit about being a star. That's how diva bitches talk. Bunny has always been on the relative belly side of fame; a cult artist from a genre that has never really been popularized. Still, people know who the fuck He is, and when he plays music, people listen.

EXACTLY. Plus, Bunny is a man of principle, he had some lawsuits in 2004 with some shady promoters who dissed him and didn't pay what they signed, so he cancelled the shows, and the promoters tried to smear him. He responded from his website like he did on his facebook with a lengthy (several pages) letter explaining the crooked set up and why he had to back out of those shows. This situation is similar. It seems Bunny and a promoter in Jamaica had an arrangement with Snoop for a show in Jamaica, but then Snoop reneged on the signed aspects of the deal, so Bunny got in his ear. When Snoop didn't readjust, Bunny felt that Snoop was just purely exploiting Rastafari with this whole Snoop Lion thing. The fact the Snoop is now close with Rita Marley, who has had many legal issues with Bunny in the past, probably all the more fueled the fire. Bunny Wailer is quiet, peaceful, yet calculated man. If he speaks out, its for good reason. Me? I think Snoop is genuine in trying to become a Rasta, but he will always be Snoop, and Snoop is a commodity, so his Snoop Lion will inherently become a commodity too. Plus, I've known a lot of long-time Rastas whose attitude was about as shitty and condescending as Snoop ever could be, so these set a bad example for Snoop in his process of conversion. If he is hanging out with bad-attitude Rastas, he will not reform his old gangsta ways. HOWEVER, and again, the quotes I posted were from a website that put them a bit out of context, when you read the ENTIRETY of that Rolling Stone interview, Snoop comes across a bit less of an asshole. He comes across more like a low-life gangsta kind of muthafucker that is trying to reform, but old habits, ways of speaking and reacting die slow.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by louder

new Gaga artwork for the first single off ARTPOP:

 

oddly, reminds me of:

 

am i the only one??

good call. Maybe Gaga is making a prog-rock album?

[h8kurdt]

And the font and border is straight from their Abacab album.

[Rob Instigator]

what's more gaga and tongue in cheek than prog?

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

what's more gaga and tongue in cheek than prog?

I think far too many people assume that prog must be tongue in cheek because of the sheer ridiculousness of it. Sadly, I think there are few who take themselves more seriously than prog rock dudes. They are closer to to tongue-in-asshole.

Prog became tongue in cheek, after a fashion, due to people taking the "ironic cool" approach (think Hella fans in Rush shirts and comedy rockers like Dave Ghrohl and Tenacious D using prog-metal as a backdrop for stupid theme nysic videos and over-the-top dumbassery). But there are some kids out there who evidently missed the joke and started to rub their little pube goatees and sincerely draw connections between YES and the math rock that they desperately wanted to be identified with.

I know you guys know some of these folks. The forced intellectuals who evaluate YES and Rodan by the same criteria. That's bullshit of course. Slint and Rodan were clearly born out of hardcore, plain and simple. Slint has nothing to do with concept albums or maximalism. It's guttural, violent, piercing punk rock, only it's informed by the forward thinking work of Sonic Youth and Fugazi in the late 80s.
Slint is just like Sonic Youth really, and there's nothing prog about it. It's just smarter, more contemplative and musically challenging variations on punk. In a way it's far more stripped down. Even the work of GY!BE and Don Caballero are more punk than prog. The connection to wailing synths and long winded classical guitar ejaculations was never there. GY!BE just play punk rock really slowly and inevitably build to a climax that touches on black metal at times... Which does have a connection to prog, which is why most black metal is fucking terrible.

I really have nothing against YES or Peter Gabriel era genesis, but prog rock as a whole is an objectively absurd, and really really dumb thing that British band geeks threw together after discovering acid and having sex way too late in life, leaving them with the self importance of a trained classical artist, and the naïveté of... Well... The rest of us before we lost our virginities at the normative and totally appropriate age of 14 (+/- 2 years for the outliers).

...


Wow, I'm sorry. Why the hell am I still talking about prog in the hip hop cafe? Jesus. That was not at all my intention when I started typing, but I managed to bring back some really awful memories of friends I met at Don Cab or Russian Circles shows, luring me into their basement lairs and playing Yes albums for my stupefied drunken ass, to show me the "mathiest track ever" ... The memory of their scorn as my laughter at what I took to be a drunken joke slowed to an apologetic grimace as I realized that I was pissing my pants while they were bearing their goateed souls to me. Unfortunately this kind of thing happened happened on multiple, increasingly awkward occasions, and I was eventually written off as a mean and judgmental person by people who had NO FICKING SENSE OF HUMOR TO SPEAK OF.

I wasn't laughing at them for their taste in music... But I sure as hell was laughing at the seriousness with which they drew argued that Unwound and Tera Melos were mere descendants of Jethro Fucking Tull. Assholes.

[h8kurdt]

You pissed yourself?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Severian, that could be the most Hunter Thompson post on SYG in a long time. Keep ranting like that, brilliant!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

You pissed yourself?

Yeah, more or less. The proverbial "piss" did flow from my proverbial "penis." Mostly I just meant that I laughed really hard.

This is a completely true story, and it did happen on multiple occasions. I think it broke my heart a little bit to realize how god damn thick the ostensibly progressive hardcore crowd was. I was a part of that "scene" when I was in my teens and early twenties. Really it's just a sad memory about former friends who turned out to be no such thing in the end.

I should not take out my personal resentment on prog rock as a whole. It's the privileged, upper middle class, white urban males who are really the problem. Guys who come from money, and don't even realize it; who develop a "social conscience" and start wearing wrist bands and black hoodies (snug, and just a wee bit too short in the arms), and preaching Marxism to all the other art majors and "radicals" who have no identity, and don't understand that they're products of the system they "fight." I just really loathe disingenuousness.

Anyway, yeah- not real piss. Not that I can recall anyway. This was a long time ago, and I was quite wasted through much of this part of my life, so I'm not going to rule anything out.

[h8kurdt]

I was jesting.

However, I can very much sympathise with you on the whole prog fan thing. A lot of my friends are die-hard prog fans and it's hard work sometimes. The main bands they bang on about being Genesis and Rush.

[Severian]

By the way, has anyone listened to the new U-GOD? There's a Kool Keith collab that pretty much kills, but otherwise it's the most limp dicked Wu-Tang affiliated record I've heard in a long time.

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by Severian

By the way, has anyone listened to the new U-GOD? There's a Kool Keith collab that pretty much kills, but otherwise it's the most limp dicked Wu-Tang affiliated record I've heard in a long time.

so it's a lot like his other solo albums?

Actually my fav U-God solo album is Hillside Scramblerz... which was barely a solo album haha.