[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Did you guys see what Trump said about wind energy / noise?

It's so fucking moronic that I cannot post it here.

You honestly think he believes that? He knows how to appeal to the lowest common denominator and he knows it works. Think about before he even said he was running for president. He started spouting about Obama's birth certificate bollocks and he saw it was getting enough of a reception. That was him testing the waters to see if he had a chance to win an election. Ever since then he's pulled comments like the wind turbine stuff cos he knows that his core voters will go with it.

[GravitySlips]

Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

I can't vote in your elections, or my own - there's one next month, but I'm only 17, so unfortunately I won't be able to vote our government out.

I sincerely hope Australia votes out the current crop of corrupt politicians, who are in the pocket of coal mining companies. After the summer you've just had, where indigenous species died of the heat, it should be a matter of urgency to vote in politicians who will prioritise Green energy policies.

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

I want Bernie in 2020 so badly. He might be the only dude who even stands a chance.

Fuck off, Beto. Mr. Skateboarder punk band hacker pants. Why dont you go snowboardin with Kerry you left leaning centrist pile of dung

(would still vote for ya fam if you won primaries, im just joshing)

Jeez, you need to read up on Bernie’s past. He’s absolutely unelectable. The Republans would fucking destroy him. Worst candidate possible.

[ilduclo]

Next Fed appointee, Herman “nein, nein, nein” Cain. Wonder why Trimp likes him? Watch this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4ab91hHyk

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

Jeez, you need to read up on Bernie’s past. He’s absolutely unelectable. The Republans would fucking destroy him. Worst candidate possible.

past, present and future

he’s 50 kinds of wrong

he’s as much a demagogue as trump

making empty promises with high emotional appeal

and is not/has never been a democrat either

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

You honestly think he believes that? He knows how to appeal to the lowest common denominator and he knows it works. Think about before he even said he was running for president. He started spouting about Obama's birth certificate bollocks and he saw it was getting enough of a reception. That was him testing the waters to see if he had a chance to win an election. Ever since then he's pulled comments like the wind turbine stuff cos he knows that his core voters will go with it.

I do actually think that he believes that stuff. And, consequently, the lowest common denominator is impressed, and, unfortunately, in America today, there is a very large lowest common denominator.

There. I said it.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

I do actually think that he believes that stuff. And, consequently, the lowest common denominator is impressed, and, unfortunately, in America today, there is a very large lowest common denominator.

There. I said it.

“An Antisocial Personality doesn’t believe his or her lies — but that doesn’t bother them. It’s actually worse than that. They are only concerned that their victim believes the lie and for that reason, if they suspect you aren’t totally accepting their current lie, they will offer additional lies and promises until you are convinced. ”

https://askthepsych.com/atp/2009/03/03/sociopath-lies/

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

Jeez, you need to read up on Bernie’s past. He’s absolutely unelectable. The Republans would fucking destroy him. Worst candidate possible.

Inform me

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by hairs missing

Sanders won 46% in the 2016 primary

so that translates to roughly 25% in the general then?

[hairs missing]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

so that translates to roughly 25% in the general then?

He's raised his profile pretty significantly since 2016, so no... I think he'll be a more formidable candidate this time. I'm confident that he would outperform Clinton, especially in crucial rust belt states.

I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination btw. I live in a swing state

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

^ I'm calling it now. It's gonna be Bernie or Beto.

Also yeah, I am too reaching the point where moneyhatting "Democrats" aren't left-wing enough for me at this point.

Fight the powers that be.

I'd vote for anyone left of Trump tbh. So like a dirty shop vac in my uncle's basement would suffice.

[ilduclo]

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

Inform me

I actually agree with many of the stances Sanders has taken in the past, but I think I am a serious outlier. Not so much on the rape fantasy writings of his 1970’s era, but I was always ok with the Sandinistas.

But, I don’t think that many folks in the US would like hardly ANY of it, therefore, I consider him completely unelectable.


Read it ( and think of how the AtwaterFux Newswing of the Republan party will frame these facts)

Sad but true


https://blog.politicsmeanspolitics.c...e-c1032187e02c

[Skuj]

Buttigieg is a very impressive individual. I thought it was all a joke at first, then I listened to him at length a few times.

However, there is no fucking way that America will put an openly gay and married man in the Whitehouse in 2021. And it makes me sad to say that.

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

Originally Posted by hairs missing

I'm willing to put my differences with centrists aside to get Trump out of office, but I still think the party needs to move in a more left-wing direction to prevent a Trump-like politician from getting elected again... Their default position on healthcare is still to defend a right-wing plan that was literally crafted by the Heritage Foundation and supported by Mitt Romney. They won't even actively push for a public option.

You may be right about Sanders and Beto being the final two, but there's this mayor in Indiana who's been gaining a lot of traction lately... I'm gonna have to look his name up

Edit: Pete Buttigieg

That name alone should disqualify him.

I'm curious to see if Andrew Yang can make UBI a mainstream idea, similar to what Sanders did for Medicare for All in the previous election. He reached the fundraising threshold needed to be in the debates in a relatively short amount of time...

You'd probably really dig Mike Gravel. Hes a dude running, not to become president, but just to get on stage during the primaries and argue far left talking points

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...g-his-twitter/

Their ultimate goal wasn’t to win the election but rather to qualify him for the Democratic debates, so that he could use that platform to “issue a critique of American militarism, plutocracy, and inaction on climate,” as his newly-created website states.

Apparently homeboy is even a 9/11 truther according to Vice. 2020 is gonna be a wild ride

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

However, there is no fucking way that America will put an openly gay and married man in the Whitehouse in 2021.

i don’t think that’s the obstacle you think it is

[Skuj]

I wish. I hope I'm wrong. He is the mayor of a city in a red state, right?

[Skuj]

So far, Buttigieg is the Dem who is talking the most sensibly, imho.

Biden's pre-entry is not going so well. (And he's too fucking old!!)

[ilduclo]

there's a lot not to like about Biden

https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/joe-biden-record/

[ilduclo]

Jury fines man $1 for punching white nationalist in Charlottesville

"How much fun can you have for only 1 dollar?"

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

So far, Buttigieg is the Dem who is talking the most sensibly, imho.

Biden's pre-entry is not going so well. (And he's too fucking old!!)

i listened to him just the other day and he sounded positively geriatric. by which i mean he should think about a rocking chair by the fireplace not an intense campaign.

having said that, i’ll vote for an inanimate object if it can beat trump. he’s getting more insane and repulsive by the hour.

i figure even if bernie got elected (shudder) no congress would ever nationalize the economy for him, and the followup midterms would probably manacle him permanently. so... yeha. but he’s not a democrat.

i’m still waiting for my candidate to show up (i don’t know who that is yet). i’m busy learning a new business and there are just too many candidates to follow, so i simply don’t have the SSD and RAM capacity to follow the electoral circus at the moment.