Hardcore Punk - Page 3

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

This is probably the worst thing i can think happened to music in a few generations of supposedly 'serious' music fans.As you'll pelt me with bottles and try to sod me in public places,remember that its grime and austerity is as bad as finding a tumor in your genitals.Discuss.

what about nic fit

porkmarras · 12.21.2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Androol

what about nic fit

Nice chap.

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)

nic fit was a cover song. the original band that did it was the untouchables (which featured alec mackaye, ian of minor threat/fugazi's brother)

im asking what you think it means that they covered it. i think theyre obviously showing their appreciation and everyone should follow suit.

porkmarras · 12.21.2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Androol

im asking what you think it means that they covered it. i think theyre obviously showing their appreciation and everyone should follow suit.

Like sheep?No,thanks.

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

This is probably the worst thing i can think happened to music in a few generations of supposedly 'serious' music fans.As you'll pelt me with bottles and try to sod me in public places,remember that its grime and austerity is as bad as finding a tumor in your genitals.Discuss.

this album says shut the fuck up

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

Like sheep?No,thanks.

following sy makes you a sheep?! ok im done with you.

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)

oh, thurston most definately embraced hardcore. he even briefly participated in a hardcore outfit called "even worse".

and "everyone should" = complete craziness. no one "should" have a taste, or even an appreciaton, for somethings thats just not them.

yes they should. example: anyone who cant appreciate sonic youth is an asshole.

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)

their artists, not demi-gods who wish to be worshipped.

ok its too early in the morning im not putting up with this.

!@#$%! · 12.21.2006, 09:29 AM

their? his? hers? yours? who's?

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:37 AM

kill yr idols is pretty hardcore. different from the traditional style of landspeed record for example but still

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:51 AM

what are you saying sonic youth was just some sell out looking for more fans?! wtf point are you trying to make?

ive read both confusion is next and our bband could be your life

Androol · 12.21.2006, 09:59 AM

i still think youre off base with this one. the only thing ive ever read even remotely to this was that they wrote drunk butterfly because they were on lollapalooza or whatever damn festival it was at the time. kill yr idols is the only song really like that and its not traditional by a damn mile. bring in more black flag fans lmao

Androol · 12.21.2006, 10:11 AM

yeah omg they totally incorporated certain aesthetics from mudhoney and nirvana! shut the fuck up

Androol · 12.21.2006, 10:17 AM

link or at least cite then. like i said the only thing ive ever read about anything like this was with regards to drunk butterfly.

Androol · 12.21.2006, 10:24 AM

ok well let me answer that by getting back to the point. the only thing from their early career that comes anything close to hardcore is kill yr idols, and im saying that doesnt have a damn thing to do with getting more minor threat fans in the door.

later

Glice · 12.21.2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)

again, thats why they chose the photocopied art. this was very popular amongst the hardcore community....very "diy".

I like how you're conflating the tone of someone twice your age, the literacy of someone half your age, and the knowledge of neither. I'm pretty certain that the DIY aesthetics they alluded to were more to do with the punk ethos than the hardcore one - the DIY, grainy B&W sleeves of hardcore were inherited from the (British) punk movement. What I've read of SY at the time (which is, truth be told, a fair amount) they borrowed the work ethic of hardcore (ie tour everywhere, forever) but early-SY straddles the ethos of punk/ new wave/ no wave (the latter so marginal a scene as to be pretty insignificant) during CIS-era. Bear in mind that hardcore didn't really start putting out records/ being nationally a notable scene until circa BMR, and SY cut their teeth in the dying throes of late-70s punk and art music.

Edit: Disclaimer - I don't actually care, please disregard if you see fit.

Androol · 12.21.2006, 03:52 PM

ageist

Pookie · 12.22.2006, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice

I like how you're conflating the tone of someone twice your age, the literacy of someone half your age, and the knowledge of neither. I'm pretty certain that the DIY aesthetics they alluded to were more to do with the punk ethos than the hardcore one - the DIY, grainy B&W sleeves of hardcore were inherited from the (British) punk movement. What I've read of SY at the time (which is, truth be told, a fair amount) they borrowed the work ethic of hardcore (ie tour everywhere, forever) but early-SY straddles the ethos of punk/ new wave/ no wave (the latter so marginal a scene as to be pretty insignificant) during CIS-era. Bear in mind that hardcore didn't really start putting out records/ being nationally a notable scene until circa BMR, and SY cut their teeth in the dying throes of late-70s punk and art music.

Edit: Disclaimer - I don't actually care, please disregard if you see fit.

See - Glice knows EVERYTHING.

Glice · 12.22.2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)

theyve had no choice but to tour everywhere, thats where their money comes from.

So you're choosing to undermine the only tenet of your argument which agrees with mine? Who tought you internet arguments? Have them shot, post-haste.

Pookie, meanwhile, shows great acuity in his contributions.

Pookie · 12.22.2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice

Pookie, meanwhile, shows great acuity in his contributions.

Why thank you sir.

What's acuity mean?

12.21.2006, 09:29 AM	#49
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,585	their? his? hers? yours? who's?
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12.21.2006, 09:37 AM	#50
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	kill yr idols is pretty hardcore. different from the traditional style of landspeed record for example but still
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12.21.2006, 09:51 AM	#51
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	what are you saying sonic youth was just some sell out looking for more fans?! wtf point are you trying to make? ive read both confusion is next and our bband could be your life
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12.21.2006, 09:59 AM	#52
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	i still think youre off base with this one. the only thing ive ever read even remotely to this was that they wrote drunk butterfly because they were on lollapalooza or whatever damn festival it was at the time. kill yr idols is the only song really like that and its not traditional by a damn mile. bring in more black flag fans lmao
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12.21.2006, 10:11 AM	#53
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	yeah omg they totally incorporated certain aesthetics from mudhoney and nirvana! shut the fuck up
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12.21.2006, 10:17 AM	#54
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	link or at least cite then. like i said the only thing ive ever read about anything like this was with regards to drunk butterfly.
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12.21.2006, 10:24 AM	#55
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	ok well let me answer that by getting back to the point. the only thing from their early career that comes anything close to hardcore is kill yr idols, and im saying that doesnt have a damn thing to do with getting more minor threat fans in the door. later
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12.21.2006, 03:52 PM	#57
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	ageist
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