[demonrail666]

oh god GMKU, come on. you can do so much better than falling back on the old 'we saved your asses in wwII' line. I'd expect that from a lesser American but not you. you're slipping. you really are.

[gmku]

It may be lame but it's true. You'd all be speaking German and drinking pilsners and eating jaegersnitzel if it were not for dog-faced American GIs like me.

[demonrail666]

since we're talking about lame truths, it's just a shame that so many people had to die before you decided to put an end to things.

[jon boy]

 

twice. not so smart now are we?

[gmku]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

since we're talking about lame truths, it's just a shame that so many people had to die before you decided to put an end to things.

It took a while to figger out the way to mass destruct, but once we did, it was a doozy, ya gotta admit.

[demonrail666]

As I said, lame truths aren't generally my thing but, as you insist, America had the resources to nip nazism in the bud bit it chose not to. Every country had its reasons not to get involved but not all of them chose to use those reasons as an excuse not to. When Britain asked America for help it received what amounted to little more than a bank loan. Nice one.

[gmku]

I see. And you had what for collateral? Some meat pies? Let's be real, OK? We went in to save the wealthy Jews, not you silly ass broke as shit Brits. You just reaped the benefits.

[demonrail666]

you're right. we were broke and we needed the money largely to go on fighting a war we couldn't afford to fight. so yeah, the money was welcome but an end to the war would've been preferable. just as well Stalin was there really. hard to imagine what would've happened had the red army also decided to stay out of harms way.

[gmku]

That's the problem with you Brits. You don't like a good, long, protracted, senseless fight. Wimps.

[pbradley]

I'm only casually aware of Jeremy Clarkson's cuntness but I can see potential of him being a bigger cunt.

[gmku]

Could he take over the world with his big cunt-ness?

[pbradley]

Not at all. He's too insufferable to manage a private army.

[gmku]

So American G.I.'s wouldn't need to come over and kick his Brit ass?

[demonrail666]

 

aahh, my blood pressure can't take this conversation any longer. I surrender.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

you can do so much better than falling back on the old 'we saved your asses in wwII' line.

He really can't.

It's one of those things someone like him says just to say anything at all.

[gmku]

God, we should have let you Brits go to the Nazis. What did you ever give us back except the Beatles and the Stones. Sheesh.

[pbradley]

Yeah, giving us the Stones was an entirely unwarranted curse.

[ni'k]

nazism always had that romantic suicidal wagnerian drive so i don't think it would have lasted had america stayed out of the war. fuck how much better was the american victory over a potential nazi victory anyway? hitler had his gas chambers and concentration camps but is the violence america has reaped since ww2 somehow comparitively lesser? to me, and this may be niaeve, nazism is almost a preferable evil to capitalism because it seems so much more volatile and from defeatable in an obvious fuck the facists let's kill the fuhrer kind of way. and then you have the space opened up for a potential leftist revolution. plus they have cooler uniforms, when you see the swastika and the skulls its like- there's the bad guy let's shoot him. Point and click basically.

[ni'k]

plus with nazis you can convince them you've got the holy grail of the turin shroud or a time machine and they'll lap that shit right up and come to negotiate and then bam- trapdoor in your secret liar and they all fall into the sarlac pit.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by ni'k

nazism always had that romantic suicidal wagnerian drive so i don't think it would have lasted had america stayed out of the war. fuck how much better was the american victory over a potential nazi victory anyway? hitler had his gas chambers and concentration camps but is the violence america has reaped since ww2 somehow comparitively lesser? to me, and this may be niaeve, nazism is almost a preferable evil to capitalism because it seems so much more volatile and from defeatable in an obvious fuck the facists let's kill the fuhrer kind of way. and then you have the space opened up for a potential leftist revolution. plus they have cooler uniforms, when you see the swastika and the skulls its like- there's the bad guy let's shoot him. Point and click basically.

In a way I strangely agree. I wonder if we'd stayed out of the war if things would have simply imploded. That is, did our involvement just bolster Nazi resolve and prolong things? Would the German people have realized sooner the error of the Nazi way and ended things themselves? It's possible. And yes, things like Vietnam, racism in America, killing students... we can hardly say we have been much better.

But yes, basically, Nazism in Germany was so extreme that it could not have sustained itself. Imagine, though, how it must have looked to the rest of the world at the time, when communication was so slow and so primitive by present standards.