[Glice]

 

GLOSSARY
Benzodiazepines: Wide-ranging class of prescription tranquilisers
Buprenorphine: Opioid drug used in treatment of opiate addiction
4-MTA: Amphetamine derivative sold as 'flatliners' and ecstasy
Methylphenidate: Amphetamine-like drug used to treat ADHD
Alkyl nitrites: Stimulant often called amyl nitrites or 'poppers'

The paper

The BBC report

[raging_nelly]

they also said on this programme that you cant have four cigarrets without becoming addicted and there is no such thing as a social smoker


bollocks to that

iv had about 40 and i still only smoke when im realyl pissed at a party or something...

[m1rr0r dash]

everybody's so concerned about heroin and marijuana and all that, until they forget the most dangerousest narcotic that exists, and that's the narcotic that's injected into the minds of infants... it's called social narcotics...

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

Addicts are never recovered. You're an idiot.

he's not an idiot per se. he's a Compulsive Clown®

 

[floatingslowly]

 

I'm not bad, I'm just programmed that way.

PS: !@@#$%!, don't ruin the poor guy's fun.

[!@#$%!]

Hayden is alright. He just mistook you for a serious person.

[floatingslowly]

strong with the power of nonobservancey, he is.

[Tokolosh]

The physical withdrawls of heroin only take about a week or two. The real challenge is having to stay off of it afterwards. Your body recovers quite quickly and the damage is surprisingly minimal compared to smoking or drinking for prolonged periods of time.

It all really depends on what you've been using, the amounts you've been taking and the duration of the addiction.

A no-win situation in most cases.

[fugazifan]

ciggs are still pretty horrible. if you smoke enough it pretty much garantees you that the last few years of your life are going to be a living hell where even walking to the bathroom can be too much effort.
JUST SAY NO :-)
i quit a year ago.

btw i have a question,
what is the actual reason that marajuana in illegal?
there seems to be no logical reason....

[Tokolosh]

One of the main reasons besides it being "bad" for you, is because it's still widely sold backdoor,
and involves tax evasion.
Think about it.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by fugazifan

btw i have a question,
what is the actual reason that marajuana in illegal?
there seems to be no logical reason....

it's harmful if consumed in excess but so it is with alcohol (worse even, alkies are serious bad news), cigarettes, etc.

the best explanations i've read are socioeconomic-- in food of the gods, this guy what's his name, says that hallucinogens are bad for the industrial lifestyle, and that's why coffee, tobacco & sugar were "ok", plus etOH for relaxation but frowned upon during work hours.

these days health care costs are making cigarettes almost illegal.

anyway alvin toffler argued similarly & said that post-industrial societies didn't require the machine-like precision of the factories of old and that's why more people were smoking weed.

then there is the funny thing i read in a book in old india the warrior class ate meat and drank wine & called the brahmins a bunch of hippie potsmoking girlie men-- the brahmins smoked weed but abstained from meat & alcohol & called the warrior class a bunch of redneck barbarians. (evidently i'm "adapting" this for present-day language).

so i guess it depends on the state of mind that the economic system requires of you, that makes things either "ok" or verbotten.

anyway last week after a long week of work i felt like smoking a little reefer & cooking dinner but the thought of getting involved with criminals in order to get a miserable joint turned me away from it. a pity.

[fugazifan]

Originally Posted by Tokolosh

One of the main reasons besides it being "bad" for you, is because it's still widely sold backdoor,
and involves tax evasion.
Think about it.

thats the thing, its not really bad for you. but it means that the goverment doesnt profit from it.
sniffing glue and airconditioning gas is probably much worse for you.
it seems that people make up excuses as to why its illegal instead of there actually being a reason to begin with...

[Glice]

Originally Posted by fugazifan

thats the thing, its not really bad for you. but it means that the goverment doesnt profit from it.
sniffing glue and airconditioning gas is probably much worse for you.
it seems that people make up excuses as to why its illegal instead of there actually being a reason to begin with...

No, there's good reasons for all drugs that are illegal being illegal, they're just not consistent with the ones that aren't illegal.

To join in with the tone of shit arguments - think about it.

Alcohol is part of a religious sacrement of certain countries; those countries have defined and dominated Western society, Western capitalism, for aeons. Alcohol formed a quintessential part of many early economies. And not merely as falling down water, as an early anaesthetic and, anthroplogically, a means of sanitising drinking water. There's studies which suggest that East-Asian countries sanitised water by decanting it; Western Europe made booze.

Something with that history might not have a rational reason for being legal now, but it has, for as long as written history in the West, so far as I can tell, been a large part of our society.

As soon as a religion with weed as its religious sacrement (some forms of Rastafari) gets a nation state, or a reasonably large enough territory, I'd be surprised if weed wasn't legalised, but it's going to be a scant occurence otherwise.

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

everybody's so concerned about heroin and marijuana and all that, until they forget the most dangerousest narcotic that exists, and that's the narcotic that's injected into the minds of infants... it's called social narcotics...

that was one cliche pretentious statement, no offense, but were talkin chemicals here, but social conditioning.

[batreleaser]

not*

[HaydenAsche]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

it's almost noon, shouldn't you be smoking crack already?

Thanks for reminding me. I almost forgot to whip out my stem and pop it up.

Originally Posted by Glice

No, there's good reasons for all drugs that are illegal being illegal, they're just not consistent with the ones that aren't illegal.

To join in with the tone of shit arguments - think about it.

Alcohol is part of a religious sacrement of certain countries; those countries have defined and dominated Western society, Western capitalism, for aeons. Alcohol formed a quintessential part of many early economies. And not merely as falling down water, as an early anaesthetic and, anthroplogically, a means of sanitising drinking water. There's studies which suggest that East-Asian countries sanitised water by decanting it; Western Europe made booze.

Something with that history might not have a rational reason for being legal now, but it has, for as long as written history in the West, so far as I can tell, been a large part of our society.

As soon as a religion with weed as its religious sacrement (some forms of Rastafari) gets a nation state, or a reasonably large enough territory, I'd be surprised if weed wasn't legalised, but it's going to be a scant occurence otherwise.

What a lot of crap.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

What a lot of crap.

I'm astonished you've waited till now to point out that one of my posts is a load of crap. What are you, sober?

[Glice]

Oh, nearly forgot to call you a cunt, y'cunt.