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yeah, i was talking about the socio-economic, and political analysis that is often applied to things. also i was speaking more from my experience as an art student, and critical theory rather than about actual music theory, which although i'm not very knowledgable on i give more creedence to because music theory has more basis in fact (physics and maths) than other art forms where it's entirely opinion and conjecture. in three years of art school i haven't received one single fine art lecture that is based on aesthetics or practical theory rather than some half-baked socio-political (or worse, identity politics) based theorizing. anyway, my distrust of academia is based on experience, i'd love to wring various necks at my college, let me tell you. i'm sure most academics are working under some deluded notion that deconstructing a piece of work puts you on a level with the person who made the thing in the first place. |
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I've had some really good lyrical ideas myself on the toilet. I wouldn't be surprised. |
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That sounds really elitist to me. So people who understand art and music theory enjoy it more? Many artists would consider themselves failures if that was the case. As far as classical music being better- people attach a certain holiness to art that is older and stood the tests of time. Some rock musicians could stand among the likes of Tchaikovsky and Bach. Mozart called the guitar a miniature orchestra, and he was right. The sound of a 4-5 piece band can be just as immensely moving as classical orchestral music. |
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anyway, i was going to say that rock vs classical i don't know if you can compare them. anyway aren't prog and math rock just applications of music theory to rock, or ...shudder... Dream Theater? see i don't know how much theory can help balls-outness which i think is the core of rock.
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The best thing about music theory is that it gives people something to rebel against.
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You shouldn't be ostracized. I sort of agree, but I think it is important not to put song lyrics on such a high pedestal. I don't know. Oh fuck, this is a really old thread. Hahaha. I already replied to it. . . Now I feel dumb. |
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Once I wrote a play that eventually got to be produced in front of an audience. I wrote the text, described what was going on, and so on. Then the director agreed to add a dancer in the play to please someone. It didn't please me. It was partly fucking the continuity up. My friend shuddered and said, let's see what comes out of it.
My mother told me, after seeing the play, that she had appreciated the dance moment, and told me how we had beautifully evoked something that was in the text by letting that girl (a pest) dance. As if we had had a goal. It puzzled me and made my friend smile. One night, an actor said one of his lines in a very beautiful way. I congratulated him, he told me he had no idea of what I was talking about. I told him what I had grasped from his interpretation of the line I had written. He laughed out loud when I told him what line it was. The line was : "Yes". |
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ha ha. did you know that wagner had to write ballet numbers in his operas to please parisian audiences? i didn't know this practice was still current but there you go... |
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I hear some dolphins in the distance.I'm gone.............
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its about what it means to you.
i associate specific songs with specific places/relationships/periods of my life. just because i listened to them then, or the lyrics or vibe seemed to be describing what was going on. ive no idea what whoever was writing those lyrics about, neither do i care. (i havnt read the thread so forgive me if im repeating whats been said) |
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Good point but then that's a general malaise that comes with appreciating art in general and having the means to voice your opinions either via a piece of paper or through other mediums.I love it when you read of journalists who haven't even listened to a record or fully attended a gig but have to write a review of either.It sums up pretty much how seriously/not seriously i take mine and certain others' opinions when it comes to music/arts etc etc. |
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[quote=truncated] Does it ever cross your mind that when you postulate on the meaning of an SY (or any band for that matter) album/song/lyric/relationship/quote/etc., "
That's interesting. Whenever I type out "SY" I'm hearing it in my mind as "Sonic Youth" so I would write "a SY...". But because you wrote "an SY..." that means you're hearing it as ""ess why" which is why you wrote "an SY" instead of "a SY". So you have appropriated "SY" as a term which has meaning as itself while to me it equates to either laziness or a desire to to save bandwidth or even a desire to conform with proper posting procedure. |
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I read it as "ess why" as well.
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Is anybody besides me nerdy enough to be savoring the irony of the misspelling of "grammar" in that Nazi image?
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Yes it's only you.
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this thread is interesting. good for a change. i'm just bumping it.
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