[DeadDiscoDildo]

read the traveler damnit!

I have noone to talk to about it on these boards!

[Kloriel]

also don't fucking spoil endings. i'm not saying someone did but i started reading a post and then its direction was headed towards here is the end and i said oh fuck out loud to my pet iguana Yogurt who didn't even blink and so i mashed keys until the back button was hit. Yogurt is doing fine though.

[Sonic Youth 37]

Aiming to finish Brave New World and start/finish Call of Cthulhu tonight with some trying to read my 1,200 or so pages for my Greek History Mid-term tomorrow.

[uhler]

i'm mostly reading zines nowadays, but i just started snow crash and it's pretty great so far.

i picked the divine comedy. great book.

[pbradley]

Read some Platonic dialogues.

[Sonic Youth 37]

So, I finished both those tonight. So, over the my 4-day break, I intend to read Dracula, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, The Time Machine, and Cannery Row.

[tesla69]

Lovecraft, but really you should run not walk and find Jim Marrs' new one The Rise of the Fourth Reich. Fascinating stuff, I've already learned the uranium used in the nukes, if not the nukes themselves, dropped on Japan probably came from the Nazis, and the Germans probably used nukes against the Soviets.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37

So, I finished both those tonight.

brave new world was underwhelming, wasn't it?

[Sonic Youth 37]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

brave new world was underwhelming, wasn't it?

Very. I wasn't expecting it to come close to 1984 at all, but I wasn't expecting it to be like it was. I will not be recommending it to anyone.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Read some Platonic dialogues.

See, I would argue that there are some things that there's no essential need to read. Plato's writing is so entrenched in large slews of Western philosophy that you don't even need to read him. Nietzsche, yes. Plato, no. There's a few subtleties and nuances that you'll miss without reading Plato, but you're life won't be enriched any by ploughing through. Seneca's Medea, that's what you want.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Glice

See, I would argue that there are some things that there's no essential need to read. Plato's writing is so entrenched in large slews of Western philosophy that you don't even need to read him. Nietzsche, yes. Plato, no. There's a few subtleties and nuances that you'll miss without reading Plato, but you're life won't be enriched any by ploughing through. Seneca's Medea, that's what you want.

see, but i'd argue that reading plato is necessary to know the enemy & where he came from.

seneca's medea? i had never heard of that. hm, that got me interested...

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Glice

See, I would argue that there are some things that there's no essential need to read. Plato's writing is so entrenched in large slews of Western philosophy that you don't even need to read him. Nietzsche, yes. Plato, no. There's a few subtleties and nuances that you'll miss without reading Plato, but you're life won't be enriched any by ploughing through. Seneca's Medea, that's what you want.

I think that is quite ridiculous. Should you be so content to read the footnotes of a book instead the book itself in order to save time? I would say the legs of the table are the most essential element to the structure of a table yet you seem to suggest that they are not because the table apparently already stands. Nietzsche himself can be found in the character of Callicles in the Gorgias!

[Sonic Youth 37]

I'm staying away from ancient texts at the moment because I'm currently up to my ass in Herodotus, Thucydides, and Tacitus

[Glice]

Originally Posted by pbradley

I think that is quite ridiculous. Should you be so content to read the footnotes of a book instead the book itself in order to save time? I would say the legs of the table are the most essential element to the structure of a table yet you seem to suggest that they are not because the table apparently already stands. Nietzsche himself can be found in the character of Callicles in the Gorgias!

I think the table metaphor is fine, but philosophy isn't a table. The root of Western epistemics isn't an object, it's manifested everywhere. I'm not saying one shouldn't read Plato, but as he's everywhere already, you don't really need to rush to read him.

[pbradley]

Perhaps if you are already familiar with Western contemporary philosophy but most aren't. Either way SY 37 looks like he's already Greeking out and I'd probably agree with you if I weren't in the middle of this Plato seminar class.

[Glice]

Fair enough. I'm probably biased because I'd read odds and sods of philosophy before I got to Plato, and he seemed a bit tepid by that point. It was only a little bit later that his import struck me, but even so, it's probably the case that he's too important to consider seriously (he says contentiously) with 'new' eyes (although, obviously, there've been a few in the 20th-century who've tried).

[Sonic Youth 37]

I'm reading Dracula right now. I just realized that the courtyard is well-lit enough to read at night. Total win.

[sticky money]

Originally Posted by Glice

But wasn't there some reason why the didn't all die? What was the whole thing with the little girl and the pan-dimensional bird? Didn't that mean they didn't all die? And the watch? And the packet of matches?

The book of matches was from the club, on earth, that they were at right before the earth got destroyed. They assumed it was a planet, but were wrong unfortunately.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i voted divine comedy for the simple reason that it's such a cornerstone of western literature that everyone should read & know it.

I voted for it as well for that reason

[StevOK]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

brave new world was underwhelming, wasn't it?

I liked it better the second time I read it.