Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 284

evollove · 01.22.2019, 01:55 PM

I'm not getting into the weeds, but I'll say this:

I don't know much about James Comey. Maybe he's evil and corrupt.

I don't see how this makes Trump any less evil and corrupt.

There can be two bad people in the world.

And really, HYPOTHETICALLY, if Mueller's team were able to draw a strong line between Trump and Russia, you'd shrug it off because the initial FBI investigation was tainted? Really?

If poisoned fruit falls from a poisoned tree, you're just going to ignore that? You'll just exclaim "My side won!" and leave it at that? If so, then this is just a game to you and you don't really care.

Bytor Peltor · 01.22.2019, 02:43 PM

Are you truly this naïve?

I’m referring to our democracy, our rules and laws in which we are governed.

TRUE, our laws state it’s better for a murder to be set free rather than convicting that person on evidence that was illegally obtained......its what our court system and country were founded on!

When those in charge of upholding our laws are found to be breaking them for personal gain, or in this case, to do everything possible to influence the outcome of our election—-YES—-this is a horrible abuse of their position and a travesty of our laws!

In my opinion, the leaders of the FBI and DOJ (and possibly the White House) breaking our laws to influence our election is a far greater travesty than anything Russia might have done to influence the same election.

As I said back in April, I don’t see where collusion is a crime. Guess what, it doesn’t matter what I think, I’m just showing I’ve held to the same narrative all along.

What does matter is no connection between Russia and Trump has been established and nothing has been proven. I realize many of you are holding out hope that Muller’s Investigation will produce something.

I’m eagerly waiting, too!

It’s foolish to think or assume this is about a side/team winning.

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Originally Posted by evollove

And really, HYPOTHETICALLY, if Mueller's team were able to draw a strong line between Trump and Russia, you'd shrug it off because the initial FBI investigation was tainted? Really?

If poisoned fruit falls from a poisoned tree, you're just going to ignore that? You'll just exclaim "My side won!" and leave it at that? If so, then this is just a game to you and you don't really care.

evollove · 01.22.2019, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Are you truly this naïve?

Maybe. Doubt it though.

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

In my opinion, the leaders of the FBI and DOJ (and possibly the White House) breaking our laws to influence our election...

No evidence of influencing.

If anything, FBI tilted the scale in favor of Trump.

Comey sunk Hillary a few days before the election. Remember? All the investigation into Trump was kept quiet.

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

I’m referring to our democracy, our rules and laws in which we are governed.

Mueller has found a number of people who have broken them.

I assume you'll be sending him a letter of thanks.

!@#$%! · 01.22.2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

When those in charge of upholding our laws are found to be breaking them for personal gain,
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YES—-this is a horrible abuse of their position and a travesty our laws!

yep!

let’s see you take a knee against police brutality

and yes, collusion is by definition criminal

otherwise it’s just cooperation

Skuj · 01.22.2019, 04:27 PM

Are we still doing the "what's wrong with collision anyway?" thing, around and around in circles, ad naseum? It doesn't even matter if I paste the Oxford Dictionary definition here?

Are some people actually listening to what that formerly respected and now utterly failed man Giuliani spews?

Christie is coming out with a new book called "Let Me Finish". Love him or hate him, he is no dummy. An excerpt describes how Trump has surrounded himself with "riff raff".

Trump and Giuliani were meant for each other. I actually love it when Giuliani goes on CNN or Fox now, because he puts his foot in his mouth just about every single time.

Skuj · 01.22.2019, 05:19 PM

Ah what the hell. I know certain individuals will ask "what's wrong with collision anyway?" in about 10 posts from now, but I'm feeling a bit bored today:

From The Oxford Dictionary:

collusion

noun

Secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others.
‘the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers’

The Soup Nazi · 01.23.2019, 02:13 PM

From Under The Radar:

Robyn Hitchcock on Democratic Socialism, Kanye West and Trump (and more)

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What are your thoughts on how the U.S. midterm elections have played out? What do you think the results mean for the Democrats' chances of taking back the White House in 2020?

Let's hope, let's pray, let's envisage that the Democrats take the White House back and keep it forever. Trump will crumble eventually, but what he represents will be harder to purge. If the Democrats pick a cartoon character, Americans will find them easier to identify with than a candidate with a complex message.

Despite compelling testimony from Christine Blasey Ford and sexual assault allegations from other women, Brett Kavanaugh was sworn in a Supreme Court Justice and many Republican women didn't believe Ford's story. What does this tell you about the general state of the #MeToo movement in 2018?

"Republican" and "women," funny to hear those words still together. Not even funny really...

Are you less of a fan of Kanye West now that he's visited the White House and has in other ways supported President Trump?

A biopsy may reveal that they have a similar cell-structure. There are creatures out there that we just don't understand. Sometimes they appear in the mirror, enlarged.

Scott Hutchison of Frightened Rabbit tragically took his own life this year. What should be done to improve mental health conditions for musicians?

Free and comprehensive medical and psychological healthcare would be a good start.

In 2018 there were more dire predictions about climate change and we witnessed some of its likely effects firsthand with various deadly storms and forest fires. What should touring musicians be doing to better offset their carbon footprint? How bad do you think it needs to get for governments and corporations to take stronger actions to fight climate change?

Children can see it already. For the adult powers that be, it will take the drowning of New York or San Francisco—any metropolis with a wealthy, white population—to make them change their tack. I hope I'm wrong.

[...]

In the Trump era do you feel that it's a responsibility to make political music and/or speak out about political issues or do you think it's better to provide your listeners an escape from the never-ending bad news feed?

It's our responsibility, unless we're indifferent to the fate of the Earth and everything that lives on it. But you gotta give the bad news plenty of breaks, or nobody will watch your channel.

With the success of candidates like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, on top of Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential run, do you think that Democratic Socialism has a real future in America or do you think it will never be embraced by the mainstream electorate?

Fuck, I hope so. Reagan was a Democratic Socialist compared to this bunch.

!@#$%! · 01.23.2019, 02:56 PM

social democracy = yes please, within limits

democratic socialism = no thanks

“free” = no such thing

evollove · 01.25.2019, 07:34 AM

The witch hunt found a witch made of Stone.

!@#$%! · 01.25.2019, 09:50 AM

no pollution
fake media
but her emails
what about

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 01.25.2019, 10:10 AM

Good riddance, Stone.

Love how everyone Trump surrounds himself with is corrupt yet hes supposedly this innocent angel according to Fox News and WH officials

!@#$%! · 01.25.2019, 10:30 AM

GravitySlips · 01.25.2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

Good riddance, Stone.

Love how everyone Trump surrounds himself with is corrupt yet hes supposedly this innocent angel according to Fox News and WH officials

Even if Trump were squeaky clean (lol), the fact he's surrounded himself with such characters is surely a major red flag on the guy's ability to be President... he seems to be completely incapable of assessing the motivations of those around him.

!@#$%! · 01.25.2019, 02:40 PM

looks like deadbeat donnie has 3 weeks to make mexico pay for the wall now xD

ilduclo · 01.25.2019, 03:13 PM

‘This is your fault’: GOP senators clash over shutdown inside private luncheon

Republican senators clashed with one another and confronted Vice President Pence inside a private luncheon on Thursday, as anger hit a boiling point over the longest government shutdown in history.

“This is your fault,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) at one point, according to two Republicans who attended the lunch and witnessed the exchange.

“Are you suggesting I’m enjoying this?” McConnell snapped back, according to the people who attended the lunch.

Johnson spokesman Ben Voelkel confirmed the confrontation. He said Johnson was expressing frustration with the day’s proceedings — votes on dueling plans to reopen the government, both of which failed to advance..

Skuj · 01.25.2019, 03:38 PM

"But there is absolutely no evidence of collision."

Bytor Peltor · 01.25.2019, 05:22 PM

Mueller, arrest me...libtards.

Everyone have a great weekend!!!

!@#$%! · 01.25.2019, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Mueller, arrest me...libtards.

Everyone have a great weekend!!!

from that same twitter thread:

have a good weekend bytor, enjoy the taste of crow!

Skuj · 01.25.2019, 08:23 PM

There's a certain thing that some people do when they know they are guilty as fuck. Stone has been "yucking it up" and exhibiting this behaviour for months. "Come and get me Mueller" etc etc, as if this inevitable arrest somehow lessens the known facts in the statement from Mueller.

Skuj · 01.25.2019, 08:30 PM

"The indictment later states that after WikiLeaks released emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, "an associate of the highranking Trump Campaign official sent a text message to STONE that read 'well done.'""

NO COLLISION!!!!

01.22.2019, 01:55 PM	#5661
evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	I'm not getting into the weeds, but I'll say this: I don't know much about James Comey. Maybe he's evil and corrupt. I don't see how this makes Trump any less evil and corrupt. There can be two bad people in the world. And really, HYPOTHETICALLY, if Mueller's team were able to draw a strong line between Trump and Russia, you'd shrug it off because the initial FBI investigation was tainted? Really? If poisoned fruit falls from a poisoned tree, you're just going to ignore that? You'll just exclaim "My side won!" and leave it at that? If so, then this is just a game to you and you don't really care.
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01.22.2019, 04:27 PM	#5665
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,686	Are we still doing the "what's wrong with collision anyway?" thing, around and around in circles, ad naseum? It doesn't even matter if I paste the Oxford Dictionary definition here? Are some people actually listening to what that formerly respected and now utterly failed man Giuliani spews? Christie is coming out with a new book called "Let Me Finish". Love him or hate him, he is no dummy. An excerpt describes how Trump has surrounded himself with "riff raff". Trump and Giuliani were meant for each other. I actually love it when Giuliani goes on CNN or Fox now, because he puts his foot in his mouth just about every single time. __________________ Fuckit.
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01.22.2019, 05:19 PM	#5666
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,686	Ah what the hell. I know certain individuals will ask "what's wrong with collision anyway?" in about 10 posts from now, but I'm feeling a bit bored today: From The Oxford Dictionary: collusion noun Secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others. ‘the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers’ __________________ Fuckit.
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01.23.2019, 02:56 PM	#5668
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	social democracy = yes please, within limits democratic socialism = no thanks “free” = no such thing
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01.25.2019, 07:34 AM	#5669
evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	The witch hunt found a witch made of Stone.
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01.25.2019, 09:50 AM	#5670
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	no pollution fake media but her emails what about
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01.25.2019, 10:10 AM	#5671
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,571	Good riddance, Stone. Love how everyone Trump surrounds himself with is corrupt yet hes supposedly this innocent angel according to Fox News and WH officials
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01.25.2019, 10:30 AM	#5672
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548
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01.25.2019, 02:40 PM	#5674
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	looks like deadbeat donnie has 3 weeks to make mexico pay for the wall now xD
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01.25.2019, 03:13 PM	#5675
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	‘This is your fault’: GOP senators clash over shutdown inside private luncheon Republican senators clashed with one another and confronted Vice President Pence inside a private luncheon on Thursday, as anger hit a boiling point over the longest government shutdown in history. “This is your fault,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) told Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) at one point, according to two Republicans who attended the lunch and witnessed the exchange. “Are you suggesting I’m enjoying this?” McConnell snapped back, according to the people who attended the lunch. Johnson spokesman Ben Voelkel confirmed the confrontation. He said Johnson was expressing frustration with the day’s proceedings — votes on dueling plans to reopen the government, both of which failed to advance..
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01.25.2019, 03:38 PM	#5676
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,686	"But there is absolutely no evidence of collision." __________________ Fuckit.
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01.25.2019, 05:22 PM	#5677
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	Mueller, arrest me...libtards. Everyone have a great weekend!!!
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01.25.2019, 08:23 PM	#5679
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,686	There's a certain thing that some people do when they know they are guilty as fuck. Stone has been "yucking it up" and exhibiting this behaviour for months. "Come and get me Mueller" etc etc, as if this inevitable arrest somehow lessens the known facts in the statement from Mueller. __________________ Fuckit.
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01.25.2019, 08:30 PM	#5680
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,686	"The indictment later states that after WikiLeaks released emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, "an associate of the highranking Trump Campaign official sent a text message to STONE that read 'well done.'"" NO COLLISION!!!! __________________ Fuckit.
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