Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 267

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 12:56 PM

also consider how trump in spite of his purported fortune (which is much smaller than he claims, which is why he hides his tax returns) is an outsider relative to the moneyed elites.

old new york money looked down on his queens slumlord empire and his nouveau riche tabloid ways

thus he understands the psychology of resentment, and this is how he con/nects with his base. yes he connects--and then cons them.

but anyway let’s worry about his spelling. because that’s what’s important!

ilduclo · 12.10.2018, 01:38 PM

Eric Garner or Jamaal Kashoggi?

“I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe.”

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 01:51 PM

THE MYTH OF THE "ADULT IN THE ROOM"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...82f_story.html

President Trump always seemed like he was collecting generals the way some children collect Barbie dolls — not necessarily because he liked interacting with them but because he liked having them, all lined up in their best outfits, ready to be admired by popular world leaders who might come for a play date. Here is my National Security Adviser. Here are my Secretary of Defense and my Chief of Staff.

[...]

But meanwhile, let’s be careful about how much we preemptively applaud the next adult in the room. No matter how impressive the résumé or the uniform, no matter how official and reassuring they look. Sometimes, an adult in the room just provides the veneer of maturity that helps a toddler in the room get away with everything.

choc e-Claire · 12.10.2018, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

hillaria won in the most educated districts, trumpet in the most uneducated

I remember that in a book I read (Everybody Lies, by Seth Somethingwithahyphen), he found that there was a strong correlation between areas that voted for Trump in the Republican primaries and areas with a high volume of searches for 'nigger president' in 2008.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

I remember that in a book I read (Everybody Lies, by Seth Somethingwithahyphen), he found that there was a strong correlation between areas that voted for Trump in the Republican primaries and areas with a high volume of searches for 'nigger president' in 2008.

Makes you think, doesn't it?

trump's coalition is a heterodox one, and lumping all members together does not help disassemble it

eta: read this again: https://www.businessinsider.com/libe...nnoying-2017-7

I think it makes more sense to think of Trump's voters as being like any heterodox coalition, which you seek to defeat by splitting it. Offer what you can to win some of them over without conceding on what you hold dearest.

i'm no columbus (lost at sea) but i've been circling around those ideas for some time now rather than follow the partisan chorus

it does help me clarify things. like how to fight.

Skuj · 12.10.2018, 03:17 PM

Everything got so dumbed down.

How do we dumb it up again?

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

Everything got so dumbed down.

How do we dumb it up again?

we repeat what everyone else is saying and join the chorus

join the chorus

join the chorus

(like that)

Skuj · 12.10.2018, 03:50 PM

I first read that as "join the circus".

Skuj · 12.10.2018, 03:56 PM

I'd love to be a fly on the dining room wall in the Conway residence.

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 04:09 PM

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said Monday that Democrats shouldn’t focus on investigating President Trump when they retake the House majority in January because there are bigger issues facing the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...65a_story.html

BUT THEN

Critics were quick to point out that in 2014, McCarthy and other House Republican leaders set up a special committee dedicated to investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americans were killed. The following year, in an interview with Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, McCarthy credited the panel with having put a dent in Hillary Clinton’s poll numbers.

“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?” McCarthy said at the time. “But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought.”

Skuj · 12.10.2018, 05:13 PM

I couldn't resist:

3 Chief of Staffs in less than 3 years of being President: Part of the reason why @BarackObama can't manage to pass his agenda.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 10, 2012

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj

I couldn't resist:

3 Chief of Staffs in less than 3 years of being President: Part of the reason why @BarackObama can't manage to pass his agenda.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 10, 2012

must spread more nutella

ilduclo · 12.10.2018, 05:46 PM

One of the administrators responsible for protecting diversity among federal employees has effectively admitted that guidance protecting transgender workers was removed to make it easier to discriminate against them.

Over the Thanksgiving holiday, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which oversees all federal employees, surreptitiously removed language from its website which detailed how to respect transgender employees. At the time, the administration made no public comment explaining the change.

https://thinkprogress.org/opm-justif...-72c746043c45/

Bytor Peltor · 12.10.2018, 07:29 PM

I’ve been told it’s really good coffee, but I’m not a coffee drinker.

choc e-Claire · 12.10.2018, 07:49 PM

I...

Are there words to describe his facial expression?

tw2113 · 12.10.2018, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

I...

Are there words to describe his facial expression?

Punch worthy?

!@#$%! · 12.10.2018, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

I’ve been told it’s really good coffee, but I’m not a coffee drinker.

golden shower blend?

Skuj · 12.11.2018, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove

How bad would a Trump presidency be? I mean, really?

"He'll build a wall." Think he'll keep any campaign promises? Ha. Others haven't, and they were made of stronger moral fiber, so why would he?

So, taking away his big talking points, how can we predict what would actually happen? I'm drawing a blank. Might not be that bad. I mean, not end-of-the-world bad. Just a bunch of eh and blah perhaps.

I have no idea why I get drunk and then do this from time to time.

Skuj · 12.11.2018, 03:41 PM

I woke up slightly groggy this morning.....and then I saw that Oval Office meeting.

evollove · 12.11.2018, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj

I have no idea why I get drunk and then do this from time to time.

I'm curious when I wrote that. Had he already won?

Also, have you really read all 282 pages of this fucking thing?

12.10.2018, 12:56 PM	#5321
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,563	also consider how trump in spite of his purported fortune (which is much smaller than he claims, which is why he hides his tax returns) is an outsider relative to the moneyed elites. old new york money looked down on his queens slumlord empire and his nouveau riche tabloid ways thus he understands the psychology of resentment, and this is how he con/nects with his base. yes he connects--and then cons them. but anyway let’s worry about his spelling. because that’s what’s important!
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ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Eric Garner or Jamaal Kashoggi? “I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe, I can’t breathe.”
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12.10.2018, 01:51 PM	#5323
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,563	THE MYTH OF THE "ADULT IN THE ROOM" https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...82f_story.html President Trump always seemed like he was collecting generals the way some children collect Barbie dolls — not necessarily because he liked interacting with them but because he liked having them, all lined up in their best outfits, ready to be admired by popular world leaders who might come for a play date. Here is my National Security Adviser. Here are my Secretary of Defense and my Chief of Staff. [...] But meanwhile, let’s be careful about how much we preemptively applaud the next adult in the room. No matter how impressive the résumé or the uniform, no matter how official and reassuring they look. Sometimes, an adult in the room just provides the veneer of maturity that helps a toddler in the room get away with everything.
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12.10.2018, 03:17 PM	#5326
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,690	Everything got so dumbed down. How do we dumb it up again? __________________ Fuckit.
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12.10.2018, 03:50 PM	#5328
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,690	I first read that as "join the circus". __________________ Fuckit.
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12.10.2018, 03:56 PM	#5329
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,690	I'd love to be a fly on the dining room wall in the Conway residence. __________________ Fuckit.
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12.10.2018, 04:09 PM	#5330
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,563	House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said Monday that Democrats shouldn’t focus on investigating President Trump when they retake the House majority in January because there are bigger issues facing the country. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...65a_story.html BUT THEN Critics were quick to point out that in 2014, McCarthy and other House Republican leaders set up a special committee dedicated to investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, in which four Americans were killed. The following year, in an interview with Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity, McCarthy credited the panel with having put a dent in Hillary Clinton’s poll numbers. “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?” McCarthy said at the time. “But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought.”
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12.10.2018, 05:13 PM	#5331
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,690	I couldn't resist: 3 Chief of Staffs in less than 3 years of being President: Part of the reason why @BarackObama can't manage to pass his agenda. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 10, 2012 __________________ Fuckit.
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12.10.2018, 05:46 PM	#5333
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	One of the administrators responsible for protecting diversity among federal employees has effectively admitted that guidance protecting transgender workers was removed to make it easier to discriminate against them. Over the Thanksgiving holiday, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which oversees all federal employees, surreptitiously removed language from its website which detailed how to respect transgender employees. At the time, the administration made no public comment explaining the change. https://thinkprogress.org/opm-justif...-72c746043c45/
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12.10.2018, 07:29 PM	#5334
Bytor Peltor Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Arlen, Texas Posts: 3,784	I’ve been told it’s really good coffee, but I’m not a coffee drinker.
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12.10.2018, 07:49 PM	#5335
choc e-Claire expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 2,465	I... Are there words to describe his facial expression? __________________ Making myself up as I go along. Check out my music-themed blog, 79:57.
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12.11.2018, 03:41 PM	#5339
Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,690	I woke up slightly groggy this morning.....and then I saw that Oval Office meeting. __________________ Fuckit.
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