[Torn Curtain]

Herbie Hancock - Maiden voyage.

Amazing track.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

 

Great album. My favorite since Real Gone.

Wonder when we're going to get a new Tom Waits album.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by Severian

Great album. My favorite since Real Gone.

Wonder when we're going to get a new Tom Waits album.

I love Alice too. Hard to say which is better, Blood Money or Alice. I have waited also new album, it´s possible to come this year if he has kept the same time between albums as between last ones (well if you don´t think Orphans as a new album, then we have to wait two more years).

[evollove]

After Black Rider, I waited. And waited. And waited, for six years. Then came the so-so Mule Variations. My once-feverish love for the man's work cooled and has never fully returned. A pity.

If there's a pause in the record making--which is fair; dude has a life, kids-- make sure to write some killer material meanwhile, is the lesson I think.

[confusion is next]

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by evollove

After Black Rider, I waited. And waited. And waited, for six years. Then came the so-so Mule Variations. My once-feverish love for the man's work cooled and has never fully returned. A pity.

If there's a pause in the record making--which is fair; dude has a life, kids-- make sure to write some killer material meanwhile, is the lesson I think.

I loved Mule Variations at first. It had this kind of kitchen sink sound that reminded me of Experimental Jet Set. Also I loved the fact that the Grammy twats went nuts over it, despite the fact that it's basically an anti-rock, borderline experimental album.

But Real Gone blew it out of the water. Improved on the basic formulas on MV so much that there's really no reason to go back to it.

I've been a Tom Waits fan for many many years, and in my opinion Real Gone is one of his top 3 records, easily.

[Mortte Jousimo]

To me "I got my Waits back" -albums were Blood Money & Alice. Really loved also Real Gone & Orphans, also Glitter & Doom & Bad As Me.

I wasn´t very disappointed about Mule Variations, but of course it was really "let´s give something to every Waits fan" album after the very tight, crippled entity of Black Rider (which I still think is the greatest album of Waits). There are some really great songs: Big In Japan, Lowside of the road, Hold On (this always cheers me when I´m low), Get Behind the Mule, Black Market Baby, Eyeball Kid & Chocolate Jesus. And the rest of the album is also not bad. I was really happy to hear the beats and his familiar voice in Big in Japan after that long waiting.

BTW, all the albums after Mule (except Real Gone) has been less or more "let´s give them everything" -albums. Too much to asked he will make next one tight entity like Black Rider?

[Severian]

I don't know if that's too much to ask for Waits. His entire discography is pretty solid, really. All the way back to the crooning Heart of Saturday Night. But Waits is again one of those special artists for me, like SY, Aphex Twin, Velvets... all time favorite who can really do no wrong.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Same to me. But also Waits is really special artist in these "well-planned artistic career" days that it´s always possible he will do nothing anymore. If so, I will be sad. But on the other hand he already got awesome discography without any really bad album, so it´s always better he will do nothing than he will do a bad album (but also I don´t believe it´s possible).

[evollove]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

"let´s give them everything" -albums.

That's it. Or part of it. I don't like the boring ballads on MULE. There's nothing like the haunting beauty of "Who Are You" off his masterpiece BONE MACHINE. Also, I don't think "normal" production serves him well. I want it gritty.

I should re-listen to MULE. Again, I think a six year wait created too much anticipation that he probably couldn't fulfill.

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

it´s always better he will do nothing than he will do a bad album

Dylan in the 80s: a bunch of albums, all of which range from barely tolerable to super shitty (except Oh Mercy).

Dylan in the 90s: not much released, but most of it at least listenable

[Severian]

I sometimes forget how shitty Dylan actually got in the '80s. Off the top of my head I can think of only two or three '80s Dylan songs that would go on a career spanning playlist for me. I mean- wow, he had some low lows.

The '90s were better.

[stu666]

Wolf Eyes @ Cafe OTO 2014-08-02

Available here: https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/shop/wolf-eyes-020814/

 

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by evollove

Dylan in the 90s: not much released, but most of it at least listenable

Time Out Of Mind: BEST ALBUM IN THE HISTORY OF THE GALAXY.

[Severian]

I started the day with Disappears - Low: Live in Chicago, then moved on to David Bowie's Low, then played Low - C'mon for some reason, then I marathoned my favorite Beatles songs on Spotify.

Now I'm feeling very Beatlesy indeed.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

I was listening to the sounds reverberating into my ear from the dentist's cleaning tool grindimg against my teeth. It was making the most fantastic sound similar to guitar feedback that i would love to create. I was inspired

[_slavo_]

 

Tetsu Inoue - Ambiant Otaku

[Mortte Jousimo]

Velvet: Live at the Max´s Kansas City

First I was really suprised why Lou sings Afterhours, but then remembered Maureen wasn´t at all in this record.

[evollove]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Time Out Of Mind: BEST ALBUM IN THE HISTORY OF THE GALAXY.

I much prefer OH MERCY, if it's fair to compare the two. I think it is. So have fun with "Make You Feel My Love" and "'Til I Fell in Love with You" and throwaways like "Dirt Road Blues" while I enjoy OH MERCY and won't have to skip a single track.

I kid. Sort of. "Love Sick," "Not Dark Yet," and "Standing in the Doorway" are amazingly great songs.

I've had a long relationship with the man's music. I stepped away for quite a while, but I'm getting back into things. Reading a ton of bios, re-listening to the records and coming to new realizations (Under the Red Sky isn't so bad; Planet Waves kind of sucks). Last night I fell asleep in bed reading Chronicles.

But how many more Dylan albums can there be? So I've been cautious with the newer stuff. I'm not very familiar with the last decade or so. I'll get around to it. They are waiting for me and I will heed their call. But maybe I'll wait til he dies. Still, out of curiosity, I put on TEMPEST and the first track was so fucking good--a very worthy entry in the "train song" genre--I might go ahead and absorb that one into my bloodstream.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by evollove

Planet Waves kind of sucks

The album as a whole may not be his finest, but "Going, Going, Gone" is one of his best songs. Richard Hell sure agrees with me! Anyway, there's a great story told by Joni Mitchell about that album vs Court And Spark:

[...] Right at the time I made Court And Spark, which was my most successful album, David Geffen was trying to sign Dylan for what turned out to be the Planet Waves project. David and I were sharing a house. I'd been working on Court And Spark under his nose, and maybe he heard it through too many stages, but I knew I was making something special.

I was so excited the night I finished it. I brought it back to the house and played it. There were a bunch of people there, including Dylan. I played Court And Spark for everyone, and Bobby fell asleep and snored all the way through it. When the record came to an end, the people went, "Huh?"

Then they played Planet Waves and everybody jumped up and down. There was so much enthusiasm. Now, Planet Waves wasn't one of Bobby's best projects, and I hadn't expected it to be a competitive situation, but for the first time in my career I felt this sibling rivalry. It was an ordinary record for Bobby, a transitional piece, and yet everybody was cheering. Finally, one of the women took me aside and said, "Don't pay them any attention. Those boys have no ears."

[Severian]

I really like "Sweetheart Like You"... it's corny as hell, but something about it just hits home. I don't exactly like other songs that sound similar, but "Sweetheart Like you" has always, against my better judgment, been one of my top latter-day Dylan picks.

It's kind of like how I hate Mick Jagger's solo material, but "Don't Tear me Up" just totally kicks ass.

I also like "Most of the Time" ... Clearly I'm not as big a Dylan buff as many of you are, so maybe these admissions are preposterous in some way I can't really understand, since I rarely listen to anything from after Blood on the Tracks. If that's the case, forgive me. I know not what I say.