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Now I am listened all three first Minutemen-albums. Well, Double Nickels is of course also good, but not as great as those two other. Itīs like they lost some of their "madness" they have in What makes a man. Specially Boonīs voice doesnīt have same power. There are great songs like Nature Without Man, God Bows to Math, the Politics of Time. Also really love their CCR-cover. This album also not of course sounds mainstream, but I think it is any way much more straightforward than itīs predecessors. I donīt understand why they changed into that direction. I donīt also know their lifeīs situation that time, maybe they were tired of tours when making that record?
Also listened Revisited first time in my life as whole (can you imagine). Yes, I think there are something same even Revisited is better. Also White Album came into my mind, maybe because they both have lots of different material (which I think is a good in double albums, you donīt get bored). I think itīs little bit wrong to call Minutemen just hardcore punk band, because I think itīs much more. Maybe this is only in Finland, but here hardcore punk means nowdays just that punk where every song is played with that uptempo beat. And singer really not sing. At first that term was also here just meaning of punk that is more extreme than normal punk. There was hardcore scene in Finland also in the beginning of eighties, but I prefer only Terveet Kädet & Kansanturvamusiikkikomissio from that. Latter was the only one, who was something else than that uptempo punk. Hereīs piece from them (I think you can hear influences from Birthday Party): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJiYg5IoMM |
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if you like the Minutemen then check out Saccharine Trust. sort along the same lines expect the lyrics are weird and some sort of slam poetry thingy. Surviving You Always is the best, to me. sometimes Kim sounds like the singer of this band.
haven't heard the Minutemen in a long time. but they were something back in the day for me and all the other SST bands, only because I didn't know I could order albums from the local record store, and had catalogs from SSt, Touch and Go. so I was loaded on Big black, Meat Puppets, black flag blah blah blah vinyl. for all I cared my other peers could suck on their Sublime, no doubt, and Smashing Plunckhead discs. |
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Yeah, def check out Meat Puppets too if you like Minutemen. Totally different sounds for the most part, but both bands did some interesting variations on classic rock guitar sounds.
Also, ever listen to the Wipers, Mortte? |
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This day I am going to spend all the great sixties/seventies wonders I have recently found like Kinks, Blossom Toes, Family & Fairport Convention albums. Finally I am going to listen Dylanīs Freewheelin as a whole too. Also I am going to listen some Pussy Galore again. One band that came to my mind from Minutemen is Trumans Water from the nineties. Of course theyīre not as great as their skills and not have as strong bass sound, but I think both have continued Beefheartīs tradition in a very great, interesting way. |
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^^uh, wait wait what???.... did anyone recommend the Our Band Could Be Your Life Book???/ you acted like HUH?!?!?! ok, an English barrier.
heard a little of black flag?, first time hearing highway 61 revisited, and minutemen?!?! and...and never heard The Wipers...?????? but loves Nomeansno and Fugazi? as much classic rock love you spew here and yr now just going to hear The Freewheeling by BD? no, sorry. I don't believe it. you're pulling our leg?! and you needled me for hating Pink Floyd? Finland is a weird country. no offence because it seems to be true. btw. Sugar Shit Sharp is the only Pussy Galore you need. |
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have to shit out ~15k words by this time next week and am entering into a state of total psychosis
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Pink Floyd has always been much more important to me than Dylan (and still is). As a young I didnīt like Dylan at all (I donīt think I am the only oné in the world). Maybe at the age of seventeen or eighteen I recorded Desire on cassette. That was long time the only Dylan album I listened. Last year I bought my first Dylan-vinyl (Bringing it on home). I have now been quite interested at him, but I donīt believe I will become ever a big fan. I have always listened music that Iīve been interested at the moment. Never thought there are records Iīve must hear. Itīs great if you have heard all the rock classics (I really hope you have listened the Piper at the Gates Of Dawn). I am really glad there are still great records I havenīt heard before. I LOVE Pussy Galore! I need all their material! Youīre right, Finland is weird country. And I am weird guy. |
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What's the most famous Finnish band of all time?
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i thought you were gonna say the leningrad cowboys ha ha ha ha
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Wait, wait - remember that Black Flag existed for years before Rollins came on board, and that Greg Ginn was really the closest thing the band had to a consistent creative director. So don't let your opinion of Henry Rollins form your opinion of Black Flag. Check out the Process of Weeding Out (instrumental album), and Nervous Breakdown (debut EP from '78 with Keith Morris of Circle Jerks handling vocal duties, years before Rollins started playing with the group a la Damaged.) Really, I say Minutement were the ultimate hardcore band because of how immensely talented and influential they were. In many ways they were as singular and inimitable as Sonic Youth. But Black Flag were equally adventurous, with musical aspirations that went way beyond the restrictions of hardcore. They were challenging, and heavy, and eclectic, influenced by metal, jazz, punk and noise. They were so much more than just "That band Henry Rollins used to be in." Dude, I hate to beat a dead horse here, but if you're really digging on Monutemen and want more "old" music to investigate, then reading Our Band Could Be Your Life might be just the thing for you. The book is fairly limited in scope because it only gives proper chapters to American bands, and focuses almost exclusively on their indie years, glossing over the successes some of the bands had after signing onto a major. But it will definitely give you reasons to check out these bands once you read about how into bands like CCR many of these groups were. |
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Chalk it up to the limited exposure. I get it. I have friends from Japan, Bulgaria, Israel, Iran... most of them have similar things going on. But I would like to know how those essential Dylan albums were missed. That's just weird. |
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Itīs just I havenīt been interested in music that I donīt interest at the moment, not even GOD himself would have made it (well maybe even I in that case have so much curiosity that I have to listen it). About that book you so many have recommend me, it seems it hasnīt translated to Finnish. I am very slow reader also in Finnish, so it will takes at least a year to read a book in English. BTW I am now reading first time in my life Kerouc On the road, the original version (maybe itīs the next thing you can wonder), after that I am going to read second time Burroughs Naked Lunch (read it I think almost twenty years ago). |
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About another great man, here in Finland was yesterday three hours radio program about John Fogerty (cause he had 70 years birthday party last week). It was so great to listen, when they played I put the Spell On you, I really got shivers!
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And about great books, John Fogerty is going to publish a book about his life in autumn (hope it will come in Finnish too), Johnny Winter book is soon coming also in Finnish.
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ha ha ha ha same exact thing here im a non-native english speaker so he does very little for me i understand his genius is his poetry or whatever but i'm like -- eh i like his music much better when someone covers it -- like the rolling stones or cat power or nina simone or hendrix except for mr tambourine man which is shit in all versions. oh and blowin in the fucking wind which is a catholic church song in spanish (i swear-- i fucking hate it--fucking singing priests ruined it for me) great songwriter-- let someone else sing |
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Hereīs one horrible Finnish version from Blowin in the wind (I think Iīve heard even more horrible, but maybe as a reason it wasnīt in YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX9jJVwxzbE This is a great version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHAvr2oL1q4 Actually it is totally different song with also different Finnish lyrics, only the song title is same in Finnish, but they made an english version of it where are Dylanīs lyrics. |
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Uhh ... yeah, I think it must be a language thing. Dylan's certainly not Celine Dion, but that's a good thing. His voice has an immediacy and honesty to it that really hits people hard. I have trouble listening to any of his early acoustic songs, because I have a hard time holding it together.
I think it's a bit like Kurt Cobain's singing in that sense. Surely there are a ton of people who think he couldn't sing for shit, and I can see why they might feel that way. But if he grabs you he grabs you hard, and the same is true of Dylan. Hey, not everyone's lucky enough to be Billy Corgan. Am I right? |
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