[tesla69]

Anyone who doesn't believe that the sudden de-platforming of Alex Jones across over a dozen online services and platforms isn’t coordinated collusion is delusional.


The Resistance is totalitarian. Arm yourself and protect your family. When "Antifa" and their gang banger allies come for you, you'll only have one chance to get it right.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

No, I mean Ivanka tweeted that. Because her father seems to be absolutely incapable of making a strong statement against the White Supremacists. And we all know why, don't we?

I think it is extraordinary that both Melania and Ivanka seem to be publicly straying from Donald's very limited point of view at times. I don't love these people, but I sense they have some goodness in them that Donald does not ( and will not ever) possess.

ivanka 2020: at least some goodness!

nah, i get what youre saying, but these are still enablers and collaborators who on occassion attempt to appease their guilty consciousness with...

i don’t know really.

and they both still support the monster.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by tesla69

Anyone who doesn't believe that the sudden de-platforming of Alex Jones across over a dozen online services and platforms isn’t coordinated collusion is delusional.

S.O.R.O.S. I’s spaceship was sighted over the tranquility sea when suddenly the power went out in...

Originally Posted by tesla69

The Resistance is totalitarian. Arm yourself and protect your family. When "Antifa" and their gang banger allies come for you, you'll only have one chance to get it right.

the only thing i have my family to protect against is you and your ilk and i only need free thought and free speech to neutralize you, “69”

[geckinho]

And why not? I think it's an interesting choice

[Skuj]

LOL, what is "69" up to? (I put him on ignore.)

Is it possible that he actually is a Russian Bot? (I'm serious.)

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

LOL, what is "69" up to? (I put him on ignore.)

just his usual mild paranoid schizophrenia, delirium of persecution, whatever

Originally Posted by Skuj

Is it possible that he actually is a Russian Bot? (I'm serious.)

no no. he’s just a bit unhinged is all.

every metaphor is literal with him, basically

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by tesla69

Anyone who doesn't believe that the sudden de-platforming of Alex Jones across over a dozen online services and platforms isn’t coordinated collusion is delusional.


The Resistance is totalitarian. Arm yourself and protect your family. When "Antifa" and their gang banger allies come for you, you'll only have one chance to get it right.

This is by far the most important post to this thread in the past couple of weeks and I’m afraid a few here are so caught up in their petty foolishness that they don’t realize it.

You see, this has nothing to do about you liking/ despising Alex Jones (I for one am not a fan of his continuous blathering and yelling), rather, about a mass effort to shut a voice down.

Believe it or not, Alex Jones is one of the ALL TIME GREATEST multi-level marketers in the history of multi-level marketing! The content of his radio show attracted listeners and the listeners supported Alex Jones by purchasing whatever product he was shelling.

Alex created his pyramid by placing station owners and station managers under him (in his down line). Any products sold to listeners calling a number attached to a specific station, that owner / manager go a cut of the pyramid profits. It got to where so much money was rolling in, Alex Jones was no longer having to pay for the Air Time.

It’s important to understand the difference between advertisers: beer companies, hotel chains and your local grocery store. These were not the types of companies supporting or buying airtime on stations when the Alex Jones Show was on. Instead, it was companies with product names you don’t see on store shelves, but products we’re familiar with: nale vitality, do it yourself home water filtration systems, six month supply of MRE’s for a family of four...these were the type of products advertising on the show.

Outside the Over-The-Air terrestrial radio waves, Alex Jones had multiple podcast (5) on iTunes, Spotify, a FB page and YouTube channel that the masses flocked to......and with a concerted effort, the current social media platforms took it all away in a single day.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND......a single platform didn’t shut Alex Jones down because of something he said and then after some backlash and bad press, the other platforms decided to flex their self righteousness.

NO NO NO......it was a concerted movement —COLLUSION— to shut Alex down and it’s simply WRONG!!!! Once you start with Alex Jones, it’s not that far from shutting down church service webstreams or preaches podcasts. News Papers are slowly dying and for some reason FREEDOM OF THE PRESS isn’t transitioning to social media platforms.

So why was Alex Jones shut down?

The elections are coming up and the left is desperate.

No worries......because of Alex Jones, someone is currently creating a new platform that the left will have no control over.

And for those of you who think I’m crazy......just look at the BILLIONS of dollars FB lost over the past couple of weeks due to people leaving FB in droves.

Another way to say it, the very group of people who would vilify you for refusing service to gays, people of color or religion are the same individuals applauding Alex Jones being shot down......the fact they don’t understand the difference is the DIVISION of America!!!

[_tunic_]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

And for those of you who think I’m crazy......just look at the BILLIONS of dollars FB lost over the past couple of weeks due to people leaving FB in droves.

interesting theory. But I guess here you go too far: were people leaving FB because of the Alex Jones ban? Or had they already left anyway?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

This is by far the most important post to this thread in the past couple of weeks and I’m afraid a few here are so caught up in their petty foolishness that they don’t realize it.

You see, this has nothing to do about you liking/ despising Alex Jones (I for one am not a fan of his continuous blathering and yelling), rather, about a mass effort to shut a voice down.

Believe it or not, Alex Jones is one of the ALL TIME GREATEST multi-level marketers in the history of multi-level marketing! The content of his radio show attracted listeners and the listeners supported Alex Jones by purchasing whatever product he was shelling.

Alex created his pyramid by placing station owners and station managers under him (in his down line). Any products sold to listeners calling a number attached to a specific station, that owner / manager go a cut of the pyramid profits. It got to where so much money was rolling in, Alex Jones was no longer having to pay for the Air Time.

It’s important to understand the difference between advertisers: beer companies, hotel chains and your local grocery store. These were not the types of companies supporting or buying airtime on stations when the Alex Jones Show was on. Instead, it was companies with product names you don’t see on store shelves, but products we’re familiar with: nale vitality, do it yourself home water filtration systems, six month supply of MRE’s for a family of four...these were the type of products advertising on the show.

Outside the Over-The-Air terrestrial radio waves, Alex Jones had multiple podcast (5) on iTunes, Spotify, a FB page and YouTube channel that the masses flocked to......and with a concerted effort, the current social media platforms took it all away in a single day.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND......a single platform didn’t shut Alex Jones down because of something he said and then after some backlash and bad press, the other platforms decided to flex their self righteousness.

NO NO NO......it was a concerted movement —COLLUSION— to shut Alex down and it’s simply WRONG!!!! Once you start with Alex Jones, it’s not that far from shutting down church service webstreams or preaches podcasts. News Papers are slowly dying and for some reason FREEDOM OF THE PRESS isn’t transitioning to social media platforms.

So why was Alex Jones shut down?

The elections are coming up and the left is desperate.

No worries......because of Alex Jones, someone is currently creating a new platform that the left will have no control over.

And for those of you who think I’m crazy......just look at the BILLIONS of dollars FB lost over the past couple of weeks due to people leaving FB in droves.

Another way to say it, the very group of people who would vilify you for refusing service to gays, people of color or religion are the same individuals applauding Alex Jones being shot down......the fact they don’t understand the difference is the DIVISION of America!!!

too long to respond point by point during a work break, but

1. mlm pyramids are barely legal ponzi schemes. i didnt know this about him, but good for him for mastering such scams i guess? still has nothing to do with the rest.

2. the division of america is brought about by the peddlers of misinformation. how many egregious lies does jones peddle day after day for profit regardless of consequence? sandy hooks was a conspiracy. hurricanes are man made. milions of undocumented illegals voted in the election. on and on and on, garbage to fill the minds of schizophrenics and fuel their delusions. pizza gate! he is basically a troll who profits off the uneducated and the infirm. a rich troll is still a troll.

2a. this bastard doxed and directed his mobs against the people who sued him for defamation for the sandy hook case. there’s a separate person being sued for theatening their lives. they had to go into hiding. here’s their letter to zuckerberg from back in july: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ts-open-letter

3. facebook has been dealing for a while with misinformation on its website. youtube banned his child endangerment videos. the banhammer on his troll act fell as a logical consequence. others followed suit.

4. these are private entities not government. troll banning is not censorship.

5. this past june the supreme court sided with the baker who didnt want to make the gay wedding cake, if you didnt read the actual news

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by _tunic_

interesting theory. But I guess here you go too far: were people leaving FB because of the Alex Jones ban? Or had they already left anyway?

People were leaving FB before Alex Jones got shut down.

It’s my understanding lots of people watched via the FB platform, I didn’t realize that was even a thing......but FB removing the Alex Jones Show will probably cause others to vacate.

People are leaving FB due to the algorithm changes, not being able to see post of people you follow and tons of other reasons.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

5. this past june the supreme court sided with the baker who didnt want to make the gay wedding cake, if you didnt read the actual news

Of course I know, it was a wonderful ruling and has nothing to do with anything I said above. However, those who are in favor of aborting children while protecting spotted owls are excited.

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Of course I know, it was a wonderful ruling and has nothing to do with anything I said above. However, those who are in favor of aborting children while protecting spotted owls are excited.

has nothing to do with what you said above?

you said this:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Another way to say it, the very group of people who would vilify you for refusing service to gays, people of color or religion are the same individuals applauding Alex Jones being shot down......the fact they don’t understand the difference is the DIVISION of America!!!

which yes it’s related to the supreme court case.

the baker could not express messages that violated his deeply held beliefs, right?

now facebook has to give a platform to a hatemonger who directs mobs against people?

i dont get where you stand on the issues i guess. or what you mean by “collusion.”

[Rob Instigator]

the human female will "abort" 20-30% of its pregnancies, because god don;t give a fuck. god will also alllow a baby to destroy its mother's insides, causing her and the baby to both die. god likes DEATH. god created death and evil and abortion. god should not have put the idea for abortion in people's heads.






the whole idea of god is so fucking stupid.

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Wed 25 July 2018

Dear Mr Zuckerberg,

Our names are Lenny Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa. We are the parents of Noah, who on 14 December, 2012, at the age of six, was gunned down in his classroom at Sandy Hook elementary school. Since that day, we, as well as the parents, family, and friends of the 25 other victims, have been embroiled in a constant battle with social media providers, including Facebook, to protect us from harassment and threats.

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Almost immediately after the massacre of 20 little children, all under the age of seven, and six elementary school teachers and staff, the attacks on us began. Conspiracy groups and anti-government provocateurs began making claims on Facebook that the massacre was a hoax, that the murdered were so-called “crisis actors” and that their audience should rise up to “find out the truth” about our families. These claims and calls to action spread across Facebook like wildfire and, despite our pleas, were protected by Facebook.

[!@#$%!]

While terms you use, like “fake news” or “fringe conspiracy groups”, sound relatively innocuous, let me provide you with some insight into the effects of allowing your platform to continue to be used as an instrument to disseminate hate. We have endured online, telephone, and in-person harassment, abuse, and death threats. In fact, one of the abusers was sentenced to jail for credible death threats that she admitted in court she had uttered because she believed in online content created by these “fringe groups”. In order to protect ourselves and our surviving children, we have had to relocate numerous times. These groups use social media, including Facebook, to “hunt” us, posting our home address and videos of our house online. We are currently living in hiding. We are far from alone in our experiences, as many other families who have lost loved ones in mass shootings and other tragedies have reported the same continuing torment.

[!@#$%!]

Our families are in danger as a direct result of the hundreds of thousands of people who see and believe the lies and hate speech, which you have decided should be protected. What makes the entire situation all the more horrific is that we have had to wage an almost inconceivable battle with Facebook to provide us with the most basic of protections to remove the most offensive and incendiary content.

[!@#$%!]

In your recent interview with Kara Swisher of Recode, you were asked why Facebook would allow an organization to post a conspiracy theory claiming that the Sandy Hook massacre was staged. While you implied that Facebook would act more quickly to take down harassment directed at Sandy Hook victims than, say, the posts of Holocaust deniers, that is not our experience. In fact, you went on to suggest that this type of content would continue to be protected and that your idea for combatting incendiary content was to provide counterpoints to push “fake news” lower in search results. Of course, this provides no protection to us at all. It would require people writing articles and making posts about our family and the massacre in the same quantity and read and spread by the same numbers as those who post and publish the hoax content. Since few are writing about a school shooting from six years ago, especially when other mass shootings have followed, only the Sandy Hook “hoax” information appears and is spread, giving increased credence to the hateful, dangerous content. If your goal is truly to provide protection to us and remove dangerous and malicious content quickly, may we suggest the following:

[!@#$%!]

*Treat victims of mass shootings and other tragedies as a protected group, such that attacks on them are specifically against Facebook policy.

*Provide affected people with access to Facebook staff who will remove hateful and harassing posts against victims immediately.

[!@#$%!]

Facebook plays a mammoth role in exposing the world’s masses to information. That level of power comes with the tremendous responsibility of ensuring that your platform is not used to harm others or contribute to the proliferation of hate. Yetit appears that under the guise of free speech, you are prepared to give license to people who make it their purpose to do just that.