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Old 10.18.2010, 08:08 AM   #21
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Old 10.18.2010, 09:18 AM   #22
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Good work in fighting them off, glad you came out unscathed.
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Old 10.18.2010, 01:16 PM   #23
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very glad you're safe and not to badly harmed. Excellent friendship displayed by both your buddy and you. Also glad you gave the guy his shoe back. When he thinks about that he ought to feel like a real scumbag. I've been jumped before but at that time I ran with a crew who loved to get in fights so needless to say revenge was always extracted.
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Old 10.18.2010, 03:05 PM   #24
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The problem with fighting back (at least in the US) is then they might sue you. Even if they started it. So its best to put them down hard then get out of there. I recommend blinding them by putting out their eyes.
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Old 10.19.2010, 05:11 AM   #25
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No, the problem about fighting back in the US is that they rob you with guns and are usually strung out on meth.

Glad you're ok man. I've never been Robbed, it terrifies me so I just walk like I'm looking to kick ass and noone messes with ya.
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Old 10.19.2010, 09:02 AM   #26
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well, its very obvious this guy and his pals were total amateurs. I mean, robbing someone at an ATM - why not just leave an ID for the cops.
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Old 10.19.2010, 01:21 PM   #27
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Old 10.19.2010, 01:41 PM   #28
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The problem with fighting back (at least in the US) is then they might sue you. Even if they started it. So its best to put them down hard then get out of there. I recommend blinding them by putting out their eyes.



who the fuck sues someone for getting their ass kicked after trying to rob from that person. Seriously. I think a judge may understand why you laid the dood out.
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Old 10.19.2010, 02:35 PM   #29
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who the fuck sues someone for getting their ass kicked after trying to rob from that person. Seriously. I think a judge may understand why you laid the dood out.


it's true they sue.

i used to work in a health food store. we lost a lot of money from vitamin theft. once the owner spotted a thief grabbing a huge bottle of supplements and warned us about it, he was gonna catch him. he went to confront him, said please open your bag and show me. the thief refused and took a boxing stance, started jabbing at him (real slow, drunk brains). the owner didn't know what to do so i snuck & jumped the thief from behind and got him into an arm lock (so he wouldn't punch), then i dropped my weight and the thief's ass fell to the ground. perfect! but now i had to struggle to immobilize him.

my coworker who was an army vet (discharged for crazy) promptly got him in a thumb lock until the cops arrived. it was fascinating to see this huge guy paralized by his little finger while i settled on a double nelson. you pull the thumb back open & then turn inwards to the palm-- it's fucking painful! the man begged for mercy and my friend said if you stop trying to escape i'll relax the hold, which he did. he said oh please let me go & we said sorry but you started it and don't fuck with us.

the cops took him, but days later his public service lawyers tried to sue the store for abusing the poor little thief (which we didn't, he started jabbing). the owners asked me to appear in court but i was an illegal immigrant so i said fuck no. not sure how it all ended, but what a crock of shit! i felt sorry for the guy but he could have given up the shit & got away, instead he chose to fight. strange...
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Old 10.19.2010, 02:51 PM   #30
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Old 10.19.2010, 02:53 PM   #31
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Old 10.20.2010, 12:24 PM   #32
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Highest kudos.

The problem with fighting back (at least in the US) is then they might sue you. Even if they started it. So its best to put them down hard then get out of there. I recommend blinding them by putting out their eyes.

Actually, that did occur to me. When I was giving my statement I deliberately didn't mention every punch and kick from my part. I did mention that I punched one of them when I was trying to get up from the ground and he wouldn't let go of me. But I didn't mention that after managing to get up I kicked him while he was still on the ground. I think it was justified because I was already wrestling another guy and when the other one would have managed to get up it would've been two against me... but I didn't mention it in my statement. The police ended the fight only seconds later, so maybe one of them has even seen it.

Anyway, the guy who took down my report wasn't a "real" policeman, so he had to give my statement to a proper detective for approval before letting me sign it. So he brings my report to the detective to read, comes back and says "Your statement is good this way, but we're going to scratch one part, where you say you punched that guy". I didn't ask him for the reason, but I can guess that. I'm sure the dude's lawyer gets to reads my statement and he would be able to use it against me. So on paper the fight has been (mostly) reduced to just pushing, pulling, throwing and wrestling (from my part anyway, I did mention getting kicked myself).
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Old 10.20.2010, 12:27 PM   #33
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Sounds like Daft Punk lyrics.
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Old 10.20.2010, 12:34 PM   #34
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It doesn't really flow like a proper Daft Punk lyric.
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Old 10.20.2010, 02:05 PM   #35
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Actually, that did occur to me. When I was giving my statement I deliberately didn't mention every punch and kick from my part. I did mention that I punched one of them when I was trying to get up from the ground and he wouldn't let go of me. But I didn't mention that after managing to get up I kicked him while he was still on the ground. I think it was justified because I was already wrestling another guy and when the other one would have managed to get up it would've been two against me... but I didn't mention it in my statement. The police ended the fight only seconds later, so maybe one of them has even seen it.

Anyway, the guy who took down my report wasn't a "real" policeman, so he had to give my statement to a proper detective for approval before letting me sign it. So he brings my report to the detective to read, comes back and says "Your statement is good this way, but we're going to scratch one part, where you say you punched that guy". I didn't ask him for the reason, but I can guess that. I'm sure the dude's lawyer gets to reads my statement and he would be able to use it against me. So on paper the fight has been (mostly) reduced to just pushing, pulling, throwing and wrestling (from my part anyway, I did mention getting kicked myself).

ha ha yes, you were right in continuing w/ the punching/kicking, because unless the fucker is unconscious he's still a danger, still, the law protects the fucking criminal
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Old 10.20.2010, 02:10 PM   #36
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^ that's such bullshit!

how the fuck are there going to be laws from protecting yerself from A CRIMINAL! That shit doesn't make sense.

Probably use the Chewbaca defense.
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Old 10.20.2010, 03:30 PM   #37
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Well done man, and good to know you and your mate are safe. I have been a victim of robbery 3 times, one of them happened so violently and suddently that I don't wanna go into it.
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Old 10.20.2010, 03:47 PM   #38
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What a fuckin night man! I admire your instinct to not let them fuck you over. You are obviously a good person returning the shoe and all. Well done! Kick some ass!
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Old 10.21.2010, 04:13 PM   #39
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maaan, that is soo awesome that you resisted and got away retatively unscathed (a kick to the face sounds pretty shitty). i'm glad it all worked out.

i was robbed at gun point in oakland a year ago. at 6 in the morning! they got a cell phone, ipod, and a few bucks, but i sorta bartered to get my wallet back with all my ID'S and bank cards. i think one of the dudes felt bad afterwards, hes like "i have kids". but yeah it sucked but i was very happy about keeping my wallet. having to cancel all your credit cards and getting new id's seems like worst prospect about the whole thing(other than getting shot in the face or something) but anyways. well done sir, im very impressed!
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Old 12.22.2010, 06:06 AM   #40
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UPDATE:

Yesterday he was sentenced to 7 months in jail, 2 of those are suspended with a probation period of two years. He's been locked up ever since it happened in October.

Repeated offender. Long history of petty crimes. 20 year old, father of two. His youngest child was just 5 weeks old when it happened. No registered place of residency. Lives with friends here and there. Alcoholic problems. Has a long history with parole officers and the like. His lawyer at the hearing already knew him from when he was 14. Tried committing suicide at that age. Spent most of his youth in institutions for problem youth. He's been to jail twice before and other than my case he still has to face court in another case as well and on top of that there's still an appeal coming up in yet another case. It's a bit sad, really.

I didn't go to the hearing myself, but my mother went and she recorded it on her mp3-player. Gonna listen to that over Christmas.
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