[gmku]

So then I guess we've never had a good-looking president, if JFK doesn't count. I can't think of any, anyway. Ah, we Americans are all a bunch of dog-faced misfits, why should our presidents be any different.

[atari 2600]

To be fair, Obama is starting to show his stripes.

The one thing that was real, that I could count on as a tangible testament to his character, was that, like John Edwards, Obama was refusing campaign contributions from political action committees.

But now that things are rolling for him, Obama's already backed-off from this. He is in the process of returning the eighty-five million in funding he got from the Federal government for his campaign so that he will be free to take contributions from PACs.

So, I've stated it before when Edwards dropped out, and I'll state it again. America has once again fucked up and screwed themselves.
Now that Edwards is out of the running, unfortunately so is a chance for a better America, and a better world.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by atari 2600

But now that things are rolling for him, Obama's already backed-off from this. He is in the process of returning the eighty-five million in funding he got from the Federal government for his campaign so that he will be free to take contributions from PACs.

truth or rumor?

i googled but found nothing.

this is weird because his campaign's success is small donors. funny enough i can see this as his argument to back off from public financing (his take was: be free from large donors). but i digress.

link please?

[Rob Instigator]

Do you not get the feeling that the GOP is setting up John McCain as the human punching bag

cuz they know he will get his ass monkey stomped by Clinton/Obama?

[mangajunky]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Do you not get the feeling that the GOP is setting up John McCain as the human punching bag

cuz they know he will get his ass monkey stomped by Clinton/Obama?

Nope - the conspiracy theorist in me believes that the fix is in and McCain is going to win. He'll be easily manipulated by large corporations and that's all that's important. The voting machines are too easy to program to create the desired results.

[m1rr0r dash]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

JFK was not good looking. sorry kids.

 

guy on right............................................. ......^^^^^^^















not so much with the looks.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

 

guy on right............................................. ....^^^^^^^















not so much with the looks.

it's all relative:

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

 

guy on right............................................. ....^^^^^^^














not so much with the looks.

it's all relative:

 

plus he was luckeeeeeeeee

 

his wife was beautiful

& his lovers: hotttt

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3JTM5G3o7U

[m1rr0r dash]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

it's all relative:

 

that's not relative, that's 20 years later.....^^^^^^^


realtive would be relative to other dudes his age.

 

....^^^^^^^


like this one..... now there's a fine specimen.

[atari 2600]

(It's still a) rumor at this point, but one hears it from bipartisan voices, so it's probably true. At any rate,
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...jYwZjRlNTBhYmY=

Originally Posted by curious excerpt from the (ack!) National Review

Obama refuses contributions from lobbyists or political action committees. That stand sounds impressive but means little. In the recent past, he accepted a great deal of financial support from these sources. In any case, lobbyists are merely agents, and PACs serve to aggregate money from individuals with interests. Obama takes campaign donations from people who hire lobbyists and give to PACs. In other words, he doesn’t avoid special interests: he just cuts out the middleman.

http://www.whitehouseforsale.org/can...didateID=C0009

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by atari 2600

(It's still a) rumor at this point, but one hears it from bipartisan voices, so it's probably true. At any rate,
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...jYwZjRlNTBhYmY=

yeah that has been in discussion since magoo's funds started to dry up. it's been on the washington post, the mcneil lehrer news hour, blogs, etc. it's all speculation on what obama may do & it relates to his recent statement that he'd sit down with mccain to hammer out an agreement, etc.

nowhere there, though, says that "[Obama] is in the process of returning the eighty-five million in funding he got from the Federal government for his campaign so that he will be free to take contributions from PACs."

[m1rr0r dash]

....so yr trying to tell me that this dude here

 

 

....is attractive only when compared to Richard Nixon. relatively.

[atari 2600]

must be why I wrote "at any rate"...
duh

[Rob Instigator]

lyndon Johnson

 

Tricky Dick

 

Eisenhower

 

JFK

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by atari 2600

must be why I wrote "at any rate"...
duh

duh??

[atari 2600]

...which is why i prefaced the excerpt from the (ack!) National Review by writing, "at any rate"...to imply that the info was supplementary rather than wholly explanatory as a source to substantiate the breaking news...sheesh.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by atari 2600

...which is why i prefaced the excerpt from the (ack!) National Review by writing, "at any rate"...to imply that the info was supplementary rather than wholly explanatory as a source to substantiate the breaking news...sheesh.

at any rate, the only duh-worthy thing here is your implication that obama got any public financing (he hasn't) and that he's returning it (there's nothing to return) so he can get some PAC money (he won't).


MAGOO is the one who got public financing. he got it when his campaign was bankrupt.

the story goes like this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/23/us...ics/23fec.html
(that's from february 2007)

what this calls for, were obama the nominee, is that he returns the money he's received and sticks to $85 mil from public financing.

magoo, who is stuck with public financing now, is callign for obama to do as him
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-attack-1.html

recently obama showed a bit of caution saying he'll "sit down with mccain to hammer out an agreement"-- he'll have to do that or eat his words or find a way out. but this has nothing to do with PACs-- his success has been with the small contributions online-- $50, $100, etc.

at any rate, magoo has no incentive to stay stuck with public financing and he's looking for a way out, but he'll face some troubles in the process
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23362651/

[gmku]

JFK was indeed good looking. For his era, he was very handsome.

[!@#$%!]

i prefer his wife. though she mutated afterwards.

[gmku]

I don't know that a president makes all that much difference anyway, except in the event of Supreme Court nominations that could shape the law of the land for decades and in matters of foreign wars that could kill our sons and daughters for generations.

Okay, a president might make some difference.