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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

i don't see anything wrong with either getting people to pay you ridiculous amounts of money to make surreal movies or getting in bjork's pants. actually they both seem like really good things to me. i honestly think if the media hadn't fawned over him so much, there wouldn't be this kneejerk reaction against him. back in 2002 when the cremaster show was at the guggenheim, and the films first screened, when he was just another obscure artist and not "that vaseline guy," everyone saved their contempt for damien hirst. now here's a guy who didn't just put a shark in a tank or slice a pig in half, he created an insane amount of sculpture, costume, lighting design, music, a whole inter-related series of mythologies, got richard serra to recreate 'throw' with vaseline instead of lead, climbed the atrium of the guggenheim while agnostic front and murphy's law thrash above him, filled an elevator cab in the chrysler building with cement, etc....

anyway, my only point is that he's just doing surrealism. straight and simple. watch un chien andalou again and tell me ONE thing that barney does differently aside from the scale and length of the work.

yeah yeah, i am in favor of your argument. perhaps the irony of my post wasn't too evident? or maybe i don't know who you direct this at. anyway, i need breakfast.

[m1rr0r dash]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

yeah yeah, i am in favor of your argument. perhaps the irony of my post wasn't too evident? or maybe i don't know who you direct this at. anyway, i need breakfast.

....ah. sleep deprivation made me miss the obvious. ....but i've had this discussion with other people in architecture school. and i just felt like a good rant.

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

....ah. sleep deprivation made me miss the obvious. ....but i've had this discussion with other people in architecture school. and i just felt like a good rant.

ha ha. it IS a good rant.

on that subject, may i ask you-- what art publications do you consume? i asked this some time ago on the board & landed some issues of artforum, but i dont know... what's a good read, in your opinion?

i gotta go, so i'll check for answers later, but living away from all civilization i need to stock the art databanks of my brain somehow. before they go broke.

 

[m1rr0r dash]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

ha ha. it IS a good rant.

on that subject, may i ask you-- what art publications do you consume? i asked this some time ago on the board & landed some issues of artforum, but i dont know... what's a good read, in your opinion?

i gotta go, so i'll check for answers later, but living away from all civilization i need to stock the art databanks of my brain somehow. before they go broke.

i totally understand... i felt that way for years when i moved from new jersey to atlanta (what? only ONE museum in this whole town?). now that i'm in small town florida, i wish i'd been nicer to that museum... visited it more often, let it know i cared....

as for magazines... artforum is great, pretty much all i look at in print, as far as art goes anyway.

artnet online magazine is my other source when i'm jonesing for an art fix
http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/frontpage.asp

i like charlie finch's column, even if he is the biggest stuck-up elitist snot on the planet... it's kinda part and parcel of the ny gallery scene and sometimes it's also good for a laugh. when i first started reading his stuff he used the royal 'we' in his reviews (gag!) ...thankfully he's cut that out. i usually just extract the factual information about who's showing where, look at the pictures, and take his opinion with a very large grain of salt.

as for architecture magazines (what we refer to in school as architectural pornography - "oh my god, did you see the new koolhaas library! i think i just creamed my pants!") i mostly stick with architectural review, which is a british publication - meaning they have intelligent articles and don't fill their magazine with tasteless ads for vinyl siding and rubber flooring - unlike their stateside counterparts architectural record.

when i have the time to take in a theory paper, grey room is a great little publication put out by the mit press. they have essays on architecture, art, media, and politics. but unless you can get on jstor or visit the reading room of the art and architecture library at your local university you might have a hard time finding it.

on a down note - hebert muschamp, the architecture critic for the new york times all through the 90s up to '04, died last week... still haven't got used to the new guy nicolai ouroussoff.

[m1rr0r dash]

...i'm off to DC to check out the solar decathlon and then fallingwaterhouse in PA... so i might be away from the interwebs for a couple of days... see you when i get back

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bump for extra thread-jacking.

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mang i just came back from vegas.

what a shithole.

[m1rr0r dash]

should have stayed here and just pretended you were in NYC...

 

...course that would mean never leaving the hotel.... and require extra powers of delusion....

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for fucks sakes, they have an eiffel tower

lots of money everywhere-- but what a dump.

[Alex's Trip]

The construction never stops in Vegas. It is obnoxious.