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CHOUT · 10.16.2008, 10:14 PM

word.

SonicBebs · 10.17.2008, 05:59 AM

lechaoscestmoi · 10.17.2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69

I only say that because I used to love rap. and I'm so disappointed at how bad it turned out to be, generic rap. I mean I got the first Grandmaster Flash album when it came out which was like 1980 or 81, (and I grew up in maine) so I've been listening to (or now hearing) rap for a long time longer than many of these rappers today have been alive! I've seen what was a totally creative and really liberating force self transform into a loathesome face for venal brutality and pathology; but most importantly, the music is not even any good. i blame it all on fucking puff daddy, that is some empty soulless shit right there man. the led zep rip-off killed it for me,

just cuz there are shitty rappers on mtv like puff daddy etc doesn't mean all rappers suck nowadays or something like that.

Death & the Maiden · 10.17.2008, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tesla69

I'm so disappointed at how bad it turned out to be, generic rap.

Generic music, whether it's black metal, punk, shoegaze, electronic etc. tends to be disappointing, it's not just rap.

gualbert · 10.17.2008, 07:02 AM

The good part of rap : the groove.
The bad parts :
-the samples ( = ripoff )
-the clichés ( not that there aren't any in other genres , but rap is on top for that ).
-seems the most important part of it is the lyrics.

Sonic Youth 37 · 10.17.2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69

I only say that because I used to love rap. and I'm so disappointed at how bad it turned out to be, generic rap. I mean I got the first Grandmaster Flash album when it came out which was like 1980 or 81, (and I grew up in maine) so I've been listening to (or now hearing) rap for a long time longer than many of these rappers today have been alive! I've seen what was a totally creative and really liberating force self transform into a loathesome face for venal brutality and pathology; but most importantly, the music is not even any good. i blame it all on fucking puff daddy, that is some empty soulless shit right there man. the led zep rip-off killed it for me,

Puff Daddy did destroy it all. I can't deny Biggie though, even the shit with Puff Daddy acting "street" in it was still great.

lechaoscestmoi · 10.17.2008, 02:58 PM

i have no idea who the hell is puff daddy to be honest..

Sonic Youth 37 · 10.17.2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lechaoscestmoi

i have no idea who the hell is puff daddy to be honest..

Don't try to find out. He's just a wanna-be little man that has ego issues and is basically a money-grabbing bastard that screws up everything and everyone he's involved with.

lechaoscestmoi · 10.17.2008, 03:05 PM

hmm sounds like a soulja boy

Sonic Youth 37 · 10.17.2008, 03:08 PM

Soulja Boy at least did it himself. Puff Daddy just rode on Biggie's rhymes until he died, then Puff Daddy realized that by making everything he did a tribute to Biggie, that he could sell records and continue to screw people over.

Puff Daddy couldn't even come close to Biggie's rhymes or flow.

"Navajo's creep me in they teepee" "heart throb? never. black and ugly as ever" I mean, c'mon. You really have a tough time getting past that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHDRkO_UmXY
Possibly one of the greatest "slow jams" ever.

batreleaser · 10.17.2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

you know slick rick, Rakim, Chuck D, Eric Parish, and KRS 1 are still alive right?

haha, AFUCKINGMEN! not to mention the Gza, Raekwon, The Prodigy, Chuck D, Ghostface Killah, MF Doom, and so many others who whipe the floor with LIl Wayne's talent. LIl Wayne is decent, I like "The Inspiration" a lot, but the "Carter 3" is bullshit, weak ass beats with rhymes about girls, drugs, money, gangs, and cars, and ever worse, when he trys to be "prophetic" he'a pathetic. Lil Wayne is testament to how low the bar has gotten for Pop Music.

batreleaser · 10.17.2008, 04:43 PM

And the things, I used to rep lil Wayne. I just realized now how mediocre he is.

the ikara cult · 10.17.2008, 04:58 PM

Surely Judging all Rap by what gets played on the radio is like judging all guitar music by The Kooks

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gualbert the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,088	The good part of rap : the groove. The bad parts : -the samples ( = ripoff ) -the clichés ( not that there aren't any in other genres , but rap is on top for that ). -seems the most important part of it is the lyrics.
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lechaoscestmoi the destroyed room Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 589	i have no idea who the hell is puff daddy to be honest..
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lechaoscestmoi the destroyed room Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 589	hmm sounds like a soulja boy
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Sonic Youth 37 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: if there is a bright spot in the universe, the farthest point from it Posts: 9,443	Soulja Boy at least did it himself. Puff Daddy just rode on Biggie's rhymes until he died, then Puff Daddy realized that by making everything he did a tribute to Biggie, that he could sell records and continue to screw people over. Puff Daddy couldn't even come close to Biggie's rhymes or flow. "Navajo's creep me in they teepee" "heart throb? never. black and ugly as ever" I mean, c'mon. You really have a tough time getting past that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHDRkO_UmXY Possibly one of the greatest "slow jams" ever. __________________ "One: Where's the fife? and Two: Gimme the fife."
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batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	And the things, I used to rep lil Wayne. I just realized now how mediocre he is.
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the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	Surely Judging all Rap by what gets played on the radio is like judging all guitar music by The Kooks __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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