Recommend me japanese noise - Page 2

Inhuman · 05.20.2007, 07:36 PM

Not noise, but avante-garde and into the noise scene:

Yuka Honda
Miho Hatori
Cibo Matto
Buffalo Daughter

Thanks for the list T&B, I'll check some of those too

Norma J · 05.20.2007, 07:36 PM

My post was just in relation to the thread-maker. Shouldn't the thread be titled "Recommend me Noise from every country possible"?

atsonicpark · 05.20.2007, 07:37 PM

Hmm, well, it probably has to do that everything from Japan is usually better. Movies are better. Video games, obviously, are better. And music... shit... they're way ahead of us in every way. Have you heard Japanese rock bands? Almost all of them are what we consider math rock... but better! Japan has it going on. And their noise artists are usually more creative and foward-thinking than ours. Fact.

atsonicpark · 05.20.2007, 07:39 PM

Heh, Buffalo Daughter. They love their moogs.

Norma J · 05.20.2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Fact.

Opinion.

PAULYBEE2656 · 05.21.2007, 03:00 AM

Rock Music Blares

Doors Slam

People Yell

Children Scream

Sirens Whine

Trucks Rumble And Roar

And Rock Music Blares

Blares

Blares

Blares

Is There Any Escape ... From Noise?

Is There Any Escape From Noise?

Is There Any Escape From Noise?

Is There Any Escape From Noise?

Now You Take All That Noise ...and Run It Down Off Of One Building ...

To

Another Building ... And Down To The Pavement Where You're Walking.

And

It's No Wonder You're Exhausted After A Day Of Shopping. No Wonder

You Feel

As If You Can't Finish The Day On The Job. You're Tired. You're Beaten

Down. You're Irritable. Your Mental And Physical Health ... Are

Suffering.

Is There Any Escape?

Is There Any Escape ... From Noise?

Is There Any Escape From Noise?

Is There Any Escape From Noise?

Is There Any Escape From Noise?

PAULYBEE2656 · 05.21.2007, 03:03 AM

noise music is cool... thats like saying im into rock. there is good noise tere is bad noise. i love the genre because of its originality and diversity and the japanese just seem to be slightly out there with their thinking, not just in noise but in all genres of music...
go and search out susan lawleys extreme music from japan... interesting compilation......

05.21.2007, 04:11 AM

Thanks for that, very kind of you. Merzbow for me is the Burt Bacharach of the noise scene, in that he makes music for people who work, travel, visit museums, fall in out of love, as well as the harsh and uncompromising side of his music, which works well when you need to get some anger off your chest. Noise music can sound samey a lot of the time, but in the hands of people like him, it retains a creative quality that takes, rightly, its place in the history of music.

scott v · 05.21.2007, 12:10 PM

I can't believe no one mentioned Masayuki Takayanagi's New Direction Unit...

damn, Takayanagi kills everything, period... even Haino at times.

SonicSam · 05.21.2007, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Hmm, well, it probably has to do that everything from Japan is usually better. Movies are better. Video games, obviously, are better. And music... shit... they're way ahead of us in every way. Have you heard Japanese rock bands? Almost all of them are what we consider math rock... but better! Japan has it going on. And their noise artists are usually more creative and foward-thinking than ours. Fact.

nah, this more or less is a fact. How many shit bands can you think of from Japan, compared to shit bands from the UK / USA etc... Ditto for movies.

Glice · 05.21.2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scott v

I can't believe no one mentioned Masayuki Takayanagi's New Direction Unit...

damn, Takayanagi kills everything, period... even Haino at times.

He is incredible, you're right there. It's entirely ridiculous that I don't have any of the stuff he did with Kauru Abe... I suspect it's entirely awesome. More love for Takayanagi-san is needed.

Iain · 05.21.2007, 01:51 PM

I have heard (but don't own) some of the stuff he did with Abe and it is indeed awesome. I didn't really think of Takayanagi because I always consider him to be more improv or jazz but thinking about it I would say your right, he is relevant to this discussion. Some of his stuff is as uncompromisingly harsh as anything else you'd care to mention.

Glice · 05.21.2007, 02:08 PM

I think the discontinuity of the free-er side of things often makes it a great deal more demanding (/unlistenable) than noise 'proper'. I'm entirely certain that at least some noise should aspire to being unbearable. Not Japanese, but one of the most exciting/ queasy bands out there are Borbetomagus. Unlike a lot of bands, they really are very difficult to listen to (for me) but well worth persevering (hello masochism).

Iain · 05.21.2007, 02:13 PM

I don't know if Borbetomagus are that difficult to listen to for me. I'd be much more inclined towards listening to Barbed Wire Maggots for the nth time than listen to Merzbow. I find him more of a tough listen but a listen that sometimes reaps rewards.

Toilet & Bowels · 05.21.2007, 03:09 PM

i find merzbow a pretty easy listen, i find takayanagi requires more from me. borbetomagus i have to be in the mood for. music that jumps around all over the place i find difficult to listen to, but that's mainly because it sounds either indecisive or greedy, and i find indecisiveness irritating and greed distastefull.
i've got two of the things takayanagi did with abe, mass projection and gradually projection. i bought them in japan! i haven't heard new direction unit yet.

05.21.2007, 05:04 PM

Listening to music just because it's difficult is pointless, unless you travel from a to be or c to z. It's a bit like listening to d and wondering why you haven't evolved to e as an individual. Geeks do that.

Iain · 05.21.2007, 06:15 PM

Well, I don't do that porky...I just find I have to really be in the mood to listen to merzbow for example but sometimes, sometimes, it goes down a treat. Generally, if I put something on that I'm not in the mood for, I turn it off pretty quick. And I listen to things that please me, not things that 'challenge' me or whatever. I know your comment wasn't necessarily aimed at me (or perhaps it was) but I thought I'd state my aims nonetheless.

Toilet & Bowels · 05.21.2007, 07:47 PM

yeah, i'm not trying to prove i can listen to difficult stuff, i'm just saying from my experiences of listening to those things how i find those experiences to be.

Everyneurotic · 05.21.2007, 09:51 PM

why are people trying to intellectualize noise so much here lately?

atsonicpark · 05.22.2007, 01:19 AM

no idea.

anyway, an artist i really like is nakamura toshimaru...

"Some music hits you over the head, but not Toshimaru Nakamura's. The Tokyo-based improvisor is almost a bystander in his own music; he cultivates both physical and musical stillness, the better to ensure that he never makes a false gesture. Nakamura started out playing guitar, but in 1997 he put it aside and began playing the mixing board. He jacks the board's output into its input to create a feedback loop which, by judiciously twisting a knob here and there, he tweaks into sounds ranging from piercing high tones and shimmering whistles to galumphing, crackle-spattered bass patterns. "

05.20.2007, 07:36 PM	#21
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05.20.2007, 07:37 PM	#23
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Hmm, well, it probably has to do that everything from Japan is usually better. Movies are better. Video games, obviously, are better. And music... shit... they're way ahead of us in every way. Have you heard Japanese rock bands? Almost all of them are what we consider math rock... but better! Japan has it going on. And their noise artists are usually more creative and foward-thinking than ours. Fact. __________________
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05.20.2007, 07:39 PM	#24
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Heh, Buffalo Daughter. They love their moogs. __________________
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05.21.2007, 03:00 AM	#26
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	Rock Music Blares Doors Slam People Yell Children Scream Sirens Whine Trucks Rumble And Roar And Rock Music Blares Blares Blares Blares Is There Any Escape ... From Noise? Is There Any Escape From Noise? Is There Any Escape From Noise? Is There Any Escape From Noise? Now You Take All That Noise ...and Run It Down Off Of One Building ... To Another Building ... And Down To The Pavement Where You're Walking. And It's No Wonder You're Exhausted After A Day Of Shopping. No Wonder You Feel As If You Can't Finish The Day On The Job. You're Tired. You're Beaten Down. You're Irritable. Your Mental And Physical Health ... Are Suffering. Is There Any Escape? Is There Any Escape ... From Noise? Is There Any Escape From Noise? Is There Any Escape From Noise? Is There Any Escape From Noise? __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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05.21.2007, 03:03 AM	#27
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	noise music is cool... thats like saying im into rock. there is good noise tere is bad noise. i love the genre because of its originality and diversity and the japanese just seem to be slightly out there with their thinking, not just in noise but in all genres of music... go and search out susan lawleys extreme music from japan... interesting compilation...... __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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05.21.2007, 04:11 AM	#28
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Thanks for that, very kind of you. Merzbow for me is the Burt Bacharach of the noise scene, in that he makes music for people who work, travel, visit museums, fall in out of love, as well as the harsh and uncompromising side of his music, which works well when you need to get some anger off your chest. Noise music can sound samey a lot of the time, but in the hands of people like him, it retains a creative quality that takes, rightly, its place in the history of music.
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05.21.2007, 12:10 PM	#29
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	I can't believe no one mentioned Masayuki Takayanagi's New Direction Unit... damn, Takayanagi kills everything, period... even Haino at times.
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05.21.2007, 01:51 PM	#32
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	I have heard (but don't own) some of the stuff he did with Abe and it is indeed awesome. I didn't really think of Takayanagi because I always consider him to be more improv or jazz but thinking about it I would say your right, he is relevant to this discussion. Some of his stuff is as uncompromisingly harsh as anything else you'd care to mention.
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05.21.2007, 02:13 PM	#34
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	I don't know if Borbetomagus are that difficult to listen to for me. I'd be much more inclined towards listening to Barbed Wire Maggots for the nth time than listen to Merzbow. I find him more of a tough listen but a listen that sometimes reaps rewards.
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05.21.2007, 03:09 PM	#35
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	i find merzbow a pretty easy listen, i find takayanagi requires more from me. borbetomagus i have to be in the mood for. music that jumps around all over the place i find difficult to listen to, but that's mainly because it sounds either indecisive or greedy, and i find indecisiveness irritating and greed distastefull. i've got two of the things takayanagi did with abe, mass projection and gradually projection. i bought them in japan! i haven't heard new direction unit yet.
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05.21.2007, 05:04 PM	#36
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	Listening to music just because it's difficult is pointless, unless you travel from a to be or c to z. It's a bit like listening to d and wondering why you haven't evolved to e as an individual. Geeks do that.
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05.21.2007, 06:15 PM	#37
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	Well, I don't do that porky...I just find I have to really be in the mood to listen to merzbow for example but sometimes, sometimes, it goes down a treat. Generally, if I put something on that I'm not in the mood for, I turn it off pretty quick. And I listen to things that please me, not things that 'challenge' me or whatever. I know your comment wasn't necessarily aimed at me (or perhaps it was) but I thought I'd state my aims nonetheless.
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05.21.2007, 07:47 PM	#38
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	yeah, i'm not trying to prove i can listen to difficult stuff, i'm just saying from my experiences of listening to those things how i find those experiences to be.
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05.22.2007, 01:19 AM	#40
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	no idea. anyway, an artist i really like is nakamura toshimaru... "Some music hits you over the head, but not Toshimaru Nakamura's. The Tokyo-based improvisor is almost a bystander in his own music; he cultivates both physical and musical stillness, the better to ensure that he never makes a false gesture. Nakamura started out playing guitar, but in 1997 he put it aside and began playing the mixing board. He jacks the board's output into its input to create a feedback loop which, by judiciously twisting a knob here and there, he tweaks into sounds ranging from piercing high tones and shimmering whistles to galumphing, crackle-spattered bass patterns. " __________________
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