[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Well, I'm not sure what a music's "feel" is, honestly.

And the lyrics aren't any more punk than a tame Rage Against the Machine or something. The Crass lyrical comparison is good I guess, but that doesn't make Paranoid a punk album. If punk is an attitude, they're kinda punk sure. But so are lots of non-punk bands. Hell, Wolf Eyes is sorta punk.

And then there's great lyrics like this:
"I LOVE YOU!!!!!!
WHEN I FIRST MET YOU!
DIDN'T REALIZE!!!!!!!"

swetleaf rules

[Pookie]

You're all gonna feel fools when you sober up.

[gualbert]

Originally Posted by batreleaser

i think black sabbath might be the band that we all agree is amazing, correct?

Nah.
Sonic Youth , maybe.

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by gualbert

Nah.
Sonic Youth , maybe.

haha, unfourtnately at times theres people who come on this board to talk about how much they hate sonic youth.

[gualbert]

Quite right.
There's no band that everybody likes.

[Pookie]

Surely we all like Dinosaur?

[atsonicpark]

No. I don't like Dinosaur Jr at all besides a few songs on you're living all over me and bug. Hayden doesn't like 'em either.

The only band we all like to some extent is probably my bloody valentine, who I don't think are THAT great but I do enjoy isn't anything and you made me realize.

Also, Lightning Bolt and Ruins.. I've never seen anyone say anything bad about them.

[Pookie]

I know I've said how shit Lightning Bolt and MBV are. Several times.

If not, I'm saying it now.

[LittlePuppetBoy]

, while this is possible due to the song Paranoid, I don't know if could consider it a punk album because most of the songs are quite slow, complex, and I don't think Planet Caravan can be considered a punk song

Pull my arms so strongly they detach from my body.

[Pookie]

We've moved on from the dumb original question to talking about shit bands we think are shit, shit-for-brains.

EDIT: Obviously not aimed at porky, but at the preceding twat.

[atsonicpark]

Hah.

[chairman of the bored]

sorry to stray from the new sub-topic. but you definitely have to differentiate between the punk aesthetic, which is a title for a certain mentality that has probably been around for longer than people can document, and punk music which i would say definitely excludes black sabbath.

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

No. I don't like Dinosaur Jr at all besides a few songs on you're living all over me and bug. Hayden doesn't like 'em either.

The only band we all like to some extent is probably my bloody valentine, who I don't think are THAT great but I do enjoy isn't anything and you made me realize.

Also, Lightning Bolt and Ruins.. I've never seen anyone say anything bad about them.

lightnign bolt definitley, because theyve tapped into the pitchfork media/indie crowd while keeping the noise/noise rock/no wave fans.

i have two friends who know ruins, one of whom doesnt like them, im sure there's a lot of people who could find themselves annoyed by brutal prog bass/drums lineupp.

boredoms is a band ive never known of someone who's known and disliked,

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Lightning Bolt

HAAAAAAAAATE

[Everyneurotic]

genres genres genres.

labels labels labels.

sabbath are awesome, influenced everyone after them; case dismissed.

[uhler]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

cuz crass, subhumans and aus rotten are boring?

subhumans are pretty boring i think, but crass and aus rotten are amazing.

crass>black sabbath>aus rotten>subhumans

[uhler]

Originally Posted by batreleaser

lightnign bolt definitley, because theyve tapped into the pitchfork media/indie crowd while keeping the noise/noise rock/no wave fans.

i have two friends who know ruins, one of whom doesnt like them, im sure there's a lot of people who could find themselves annoyed by brutal prog bass/drums lineupp.

boredoms is a band ive never known of someone who's known and disliked,

yeah i don't know anyone that doesn't like the boredoms.

[uhler]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

i think aus rotten are kinda boring. i like 'em in high school. havent listened to em much since.

crass = amazing. still listen to them a pretty good bit. one of my fav. "punk" bands.

sub hum ans got really old really fast. i bought from the cradle to the grave and the day the country died in high school. i dont think i listened to either of them more than a few times. i seem to remember subvert city being the only song i liked by them.

i had the day the country died and thought it was boring. not bad just boring and then i saw them live and they were really boring live.

[repeater]

Paranoid came a couple of years after stooges, blue cheer, mc5 and one billion garage "punk" bands, so no; paranoid wasn´t the first punk album. It´s great but not punk.