Indiana Jones 4. Honest thoughts - Page 2

ALIEN ANAL · 11.30.2007, 11:00 PM

hes not remaking it you douche

just because you have the same character doesnt mean its freaking remake
the original source is a comic book..not batman 89

EyeballGrowth · 11.30.2007, 11:09 PM

I'm done arguing about Batman. If you like it I'm sure it's good enough for you.

Alex's Trip · 12.01.2007, 12:02 AM

Mmm...I think Begins is the only Batman movie I've liked. To be fair, I watched the others when I was in the 5-9 range.

LifeDistortion · 12.01.2007, 01:18 AM

The one mistake Burton made in "Batman" (and its a huge one) was stating that it was The Joker that killed Wanye's parents. Turning Batman/Wayne from a vigilante to a man seeking vengance. That was unecessary.

EyeballGrowth · 12.01.2007, 01:31 AM

Yes he changed that the joker killed his parents. That is the only thing. But I don't care because that scene scarred me for life as a child.

EyeballGrowth · 12.01.2007, 01:35 AM

Anyway, I want to get back on the topic of Indiana Jones

first pictures from the movie were released 6 hours ago.

Alex's Trip · 12.01.2007, 02:08 AM

Why is Shia a...greaser?

ALIEN ANAL · 12.01.2007, 02:11 AM

the question is alex

why arnt you a greaser?

Lamont Cranston · 12.01.2007, 06:56 AM

the Batmobile in Begins looks a lot like the BatTank from Dark Knight Returns, so why they didn't go all the way with that I dunno. The bike that'll be in the second film however looks goddamn-fuckin'-goofy and is there for no other reason but selling toys.
Sam Hamms first draft for Batman (http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/batman_early.html) had a lot more screen time for Batman doing his thing, developing Bruce Wayne as a character, and so on. But of course Tim Burton has to screw everything up with his 'unique' 'artistic vision' - although we have been spared the worst of what he intended: one of the Wayans brothers as Robin!
Only thing I've liked about the 89 film is Anton Fursts production design (another place Begins fails, they made Gotham a normal looking city).

pao-lino · 12.01.2007, 08:04 AM

indiana jones will be 67 and will suffer of terrible backache, and works in a musuem where dusts antique bones,
suddenly on a dino bone finds an incision and it's a treasure's map.
so he takes his plane and goes in a jungle. he sleeps in a bungalows and is on painkillers (he is american, isnt'it?

) and then hears a nois from the closet. he gets prepared to fight, but out of the closet comes his son, the 23 years old orlando bloom who studies anthropology in oxford and wants to follow his father (they dont see each other from a long time).
they start adventure together, bang bang, kaboom, a plane crashes, there are wizards, the go in a cave, they eat condor eggs. orlando meets an indio woman and make love. the day after he has a strange painting in his stomach and that's the new map! so they find the treasure, the bad ones arrive, orlando saves indiana. the treasure actually is something disappointing and moral. they leave it there and get ready to go home, orlando chooses to say in jungle with the girl, indiana goes back to the museum and he still has backache.
two years later he receive a postcard with a picture of his grandson climbing a gorilla's tail in a fire forest.

atsonicpark · 12.01.2007, 08:35 AM

burton's original batman film is the only good batman movie. it's dark and near-humorless. a perfect film (except when he flies up with the batwing to the moon -- how cheesy was that?). batman begins was just TERRIBLE. it BLOWS MY MIND that people think that was good. an overlong piece of shit.

adam west's original batman movie was pretty good too.

max · 12.01.2007, 08:44 AM

enough with the mothereffing batty boy, this is the MIGHTY INDIANA we're talking about, and no matter what I'll go see this one... fuck, I didn't know they had it done already!
I'll be totally honest - I usually don't give a shit about mainstream, it's just a matter of what it's all about: a good movie can be independently released or not, still if it's good it gets me going, and that should be just the way to go.
I ADORE David Lynch, I ADORE David Cronenberg, I ADORE John Carpenter and George A. Romero, but sometimes a mainstream flick gets me going.
THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES comes to mind (with a killer soundtrack to it).
JACOB'S LADDER also.
ANGEL HEART, too.

Then there are a few flicks, like GHOSTBUSTERS, or THE GOONIES, which are undoubtly mainstream and a franchise, but went on to be a part of who I am, along with INDIANA JONES. I was an effin' 5 y.o. kid when I got into that stuff, and it's pure eighties.
I recently re-watched THE LAST CRUSADE and I was kind of... "well, sure... that ain't the greatest thing now". But I was thrilled nonetheless - that was very entertaining.

So, hell yeah, once in a while, let's get groovy with some big thing like that.

PS: LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was a good one and I honestly enjoyed that also - partly probably becuz it was the first movie I saw in an american theater. Very cool.

PPS: the uncool factor was the multi-plex huge bulding that hosts a bunch of theaters in just one place. You know what I am talking about. These things came out pretty recently in Sardinia (ITALY) which is my small island and they destroyed the traditional cinema.

I really hate this side of the cinema nowadays.

I don't want big seats, a digital projector, a fucking air conditioning system, and I don't wanna have to order for my seats via fucking EMAIL.
It was just perfect when it was the old way - get early or get busted, sit in the place, one ticket gets you through the whole fucking evening...
those were the times.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 12.01.2007, 10:15 AM

Batman Begins has Qui Gonn in it. Enough reason for me to never watch it.

As for the new Indiana Jones movie, I have serious doubts about it being good. When was the last time George Lucas did something sensible? When he brought Kasdan and Kirshner in on ESB?

Lamont Cranston · 12.01.2007, 11:36 AM

Good call SpectralJulianIsNotDead, Frank Darabont has told a story about a script he wrote back in 2002 which everyone involved loved and wanted to get started on as soon as possible but then Lucas chimes in with "nah...I don't like it".
I wish Short Round was returning

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EyeballGrowth · 12.01.2007, 08:03 PM

He's a greaser because it takes place in the 50's. The age of greasers

(except when he flies up with the batwing to the moon -- how cheesy was that?). WTF??????? If by cheesy you mean the most exciting moment of my life in a movie theater.

strictlycommercial · 12.02.2007, 08:42 AM

The first Batman was pretty class, nice balance of cheesy and dark, but that's not the one you need to compare Batman Begins to. Its a response to the nauseating, overly camp post-Burton films. Batman and Robin for fuck's sake.

It's like the last Bond film, it needed to be beefy and played completely straight to clear out all the shit that had backed up in the franchise, which it did.

screamingskull · 12.02.2007, 09:26 AM

you know River Phoenix was going to take over the role of Indiana Jones. Sad.

ALIEN ANAL · 12.02.2007, 09:41 AM

dick off jack!

LifeDistortion · 12.02.2007, 01:25 PM

"Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" would have been a lot cooler if River Phoenix had been in it.

screamingskull · 12.02.2007, 04:12 PM

^ hell yeah! Everything would be so much better if River Phoenix was in it.

11.30.2007, 11:00 PM	#21
ALIEN ANAL invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 5,461	hes not remaking it you douche just because you have the same character doesnt mean its freaking remake the original source is a comic book..not batman 89 __________________ www.instagram.com/alienanal
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11.30.2007, 11:09 PM	#22
EyeballGrowth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 992	I'm done arguing about Batman. If you like it I'm sure it's good enough for you.
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12.01.2007, 12:02 AM	#23
Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	Mmm...I think Begins is the only Batman movie I've liked. To be fair, I watched the others when I was in the 5-9 range. __________________ KALOPSIA
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12.01.2007, 01:18 AM	#24
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	The one mistake Burton made in "Batman" (and its a huge one) was stating that it was The Joker that killed Wanye's parents. Turning Batman/Wayne from a vigilante to a man seeking vengance. That was unecessary.
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12.01.2007, 01:31 AM	#25
EyeballGrowth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 992	Yes he changed that the joker killed his parents. That is the only thing. But I don't care because that scene scarred me for life as a child.
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12.01.2007, 01:35 AM	#26
EyeballGrowth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 992	Anyway, I want to get back on the topic of Indiana Jones first pictures from the movie were released 6 hours ago.
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12.01.2007, 02:08 AM	#27
Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	Why is Shia a...greaser? __________________ KALOPSIA
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12.01.2007, 02:11 AM	#28
ALIEN ANAL invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 5,461	the question is alex why arnt you a greaser? __________________ www.instagram.com/alienanal
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12.01.2007, 06:56 AM	#29
Lamont Cranston 100% Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 725	the Batmobile in Begins looks a lot like the BatTank from Dark Knight Returns, so why they didn't go all the way with that I dunno. The bike that'll be in the second film however looks goddamn-fuckin'-goofy and is there for no other reason but selling toys. Sam Hamms first draft for Batman (http://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/batman_early.html) had a lot more screen time for Batman doing his thing, developing Bruce Wayne as a character, and so on. But of course Tim Burton has to screw everything up with his 'unique' 'artistic vision' - although we have been spared the worst of what he intended: one of the Wayans brothers as Robin! Only thing I've liked about the 89 film is Anton Fursts production design (another place Begins fails, they made Gotham a normal looking city).
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12.01.2007, 08:04 AM	#30
pao-lino bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 200	indiana jones will be 67 and will suffer of terrible backache, and works in a musuem where dusts antique bones, suddenly on a dino bone finds an incision and it's a treasure's map. so he takes his plane and goes in a jungle. he sleeps in a bungalows and is on painkillers (he is american, isnt'it? ) and then hears a nois from the closet. he gets prepared to fight, but out of the closet comes his son, the 23 years old orlando bloom who studies anthropology in oxford and wants to follow his father (they dont see each other from a long time). they start adventure together, bang bang, kaboom, a plane crashes, there are wizards, the go in a cave, they eat condor eggs. orlando meets an indio woman and make love. the day after he has a strange painting in his stomach and that's the new map! so they find the treasure, the bad ones arrive, orlando saves indiana. the treasure actually is something disappointing and moral. they leave it there and get ready to go home, orlando chooses to say in jungle with the girl, indiana goes back to the museum and he still has backache. two years later he receive a postcard with a picture of his grandson climbing a gorilla's tail in a fire forest.
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12.01.2007, 08:35 AM	#31
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	burton's original batman film is the only good batman movie. it's dark and near-humorless. a perfect film (except when he flies up with the batwing to the moon -- how cheesy was that?). batman begins was just TERRIBLE. it BLOWS MY MIND that people think that was good. an overlong piece of shit. adam west's original batman movie was pretty good too. __________________
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12.01.2007, 08:44 AM	#32
max expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: sardinia, italy Posts: 1,263	enough with the mothereffing batty boy, this is the MIGHTY INDIANA we're talking about, and no matter what I'll go see this one... fuck, I didn't know they had it done already! I'll be totally honest - I usually don't give a shit about mainstream, it's just a matter of what it's all about: a good movie can be independently released or not, still if it's good it gets me going, and that should be just the way to go. I ADORE David Lynch, I ADORE David Cronenberg, I ADORE John Carpenter and George A. Romero, but sometimes a mainstream flick gets me going. THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES comes to mind (with a killer soundtrack to it). JACOB'S LADDER also. ANGEL HEART, too. Then there are a few flicks, like GHOSTBUSTERS, or THE GOONIES, which are undoubtly mainstream and a franchise, but went on to be a part of who I am, along with INDIANA JONES. I was an effin' 5 y.o. kid when I got into that stuff, and it's pure eighties. I recently re-watched THE LAST CRUSADE and I was kind of... "well, sure... that ain't the greatest thing now". But I was thrilled nonetheless - that was very entertaining. So, hell yeah, once in a while, let's get groovy with some big thing like that. PS: LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was a good one and I honestly enjoyed that also - partly probably becuz it was the first movie I saw in an american theater. Very cool. PPS: the uncool factor was the multi-plex huge bulding that hosts a bunch of theaters in just one place. You know what I am talking about. These things came out pretty recently in Sardinia (ITALY) which is my small island and they destroyed the traditional cinema. I really hate this side of the cinema nowadays. I don't want big seats, a digital projector, a fucking air conditioning system, and I don't wanna have to order for my seats via fucking EMAIL. It was just perfect when it was the old way - get early or get busted, sit in the place, one ticket gets you through the whole fucking evening... those were the times. __________________ A Dance Of Shadows - Kingdom Of Night
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12.01.2007, 10:15 AM	#33
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	Batman Begins has Qui Gonn in it. Enough reason for me to never watch it. As for the new Indiana Jones movie, I have serious doubts about it being good. When was the last time George Lucas did something sensible? When he brought Kasdan and Kirshner in on ESB?
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12.01.2007, 11:36 AM	#34
Lamont Cranston 100% Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 725	Good call SpectralJulianIsNotDead, Frank Darabont has told a story about a script he wrote back in 2002 which everyone involved loved and wanted to get started on as soon as possible but then Lucas chimes in with "nah...I don't like it". I wish Short Round was returning.
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12.01.2007, 08:03 PM	#35
EyeballGrowth the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 992	He's a greaser because it takes place in the 50's. The age of greasers (except when he flies up with the batwing to the moon -- how cheesy was that?). WTF??????? If by cheesy you mean the most exciting moment of my life in a movie theater.
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12.02.2007, 08:42 AM	#36
strictlycommercial bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	The first Batman was pretty class, nice balance of cheesy and dark, but that's not the one you need to compare Batman Begins to. Its a response to the nauseating, overly camp post-Burton films. Batman and Robin for fuck's sake. It's like the last Bond film, it needed to be beefy and played completely straight to clear out all the shit that had backed up in the franchise, which it did.
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12.02.2007, 09:26 AM	#37
screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	you know River Phoenix was going to take over the role of Indiana Jones. Sad.
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12.02.2007, 09:41 AM	#38
ALIEN ANAL invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 5,461	dick off jack! __________________ www.instagram.com/alienanal
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12.02.2007, 01:25 PM	#39
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	"Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" would have been a lot cooler if River Phoenix had been in it.
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12.02.2007, 04:12 PM	#40
screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	^ hell yeah! Everything would be so much better if River Phoenix was in it.
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