[greedrex]

racists.

[ALIEN ANAL]

hes a black guy
he has dark skin
its what a black guy is
a black guy isnt a race, i think we all know that
but he is a black guy

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL

hes a black guy
he has dark skin
its what a black guy is
a black guy isnt a race, i think we all know that
but he is a black guy

so this guy is BLACK?

 

He is from INDIA


and this guy is black too?
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=95159&rendTypeId=4
he is an aboriginal Australian.


and this guy?

 

he is Puerto Rican


the designation "black" is an american made-up term, and means NOTHING.
before that it was negro, and before that colored, and before that who knows? all these appellations mean NOTHING. They are just used as identification or self-identification.

In barack's case it is even more meanigelss because his father was not an american "black" man, but an African, a KENYAN. so Barack is Kenyan/American.

[mangajunky]

Obama's sister is Asian...Indonesian specifically.

 

You can't get much more American than a multi-ethnic family.

[gualbert]

In the US , he is considered black.
In Nigeria , maybe he is considered white.

btw Rob , black is a color , it DOES mean something.

[floatingslowly]

I'm funk and I'm proud. and by funk, I mean, Californian/American.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by gualbert

In the US , he is considered black.
In Nigeria , maybe he is considered white.

btw Rob , black is a color , it DOES mean something.

it means only what YOU designate it to mean in YR HEAD man.

you forgot the word ONLY, as in "black is ONLY a color"

it is meaningless in every sense except for pigmentation.

[floatingslowly]

^^^ what about souls (like girlgun's)?

[Rob Instigator]

that's some trent reznor pussy-ass shit there man

"hea dlike a hole, black as yr soul."

there are no " souls"

[floatingslowly]

yeah, no. I haven't listened to NIN since that bitch had his RevCo tattoo removed.

I'm into DOOM METAL.

what about Joy Division? can I still safely listen to Dead Souls without drinking the flavor-aid?

but I digress, BLACK is more than just a color. it's a way of life.

[Rob Instigator]

I wear black on the outside, cuz black is how I feel on the inside.....

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

it means only what YOU designate it to mean in YR HEAD man.

you forgot the word ONLY, as in "black is ONLY a color"

it is meaningless in every sense except for pigmentation.

yes and no. it will become a meaningless thing as time progresses, however at this point, there is still an immense gap of inequality, socially and politically which creates a distinction, both historically and today and into the future.

If people quickly forget that Barack Obama is a black man first, a multi-ethnic American second, they will deny the very achievement of changing the face of american politics to begin with by empowering a black president. If Obama's sister is 'asian' and his mom is 'white' that is fine for them, but Barack has lived his life as black man, in America and in the world, and that has a particular experience which must be told. To literally white wash it behind a "race doesn't count" nonsense defeats the whole accomplishment of this thing, which equalization. By giving a black face to the chief executive, you are telling the rest of America that black people are Americans too, not just second-class Americans, but an intergral part of the ever expanding American fabric.

So, it is crucially important the Barack Obama be continually acknowledged as a black man, and in this regard, it will make all of America conscious of black people, because the bigotry, racism and also just indifference and inexperience of many Americans of all races and backgrounds causes them to generally ignore the black experience to the overall American experience, and these things are one and the same.

There is far too much history to just gloss over Barack Obama's race, and to ignore his black identity is to continue to deny the past and effect more of the same 'half the story' history and politics in America.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I wear black on the outside, cuz black is how I feel on the inside.....

funny. I was going to post that. but after the whole "pussy-ass shit", I wasn't going to reinforce yr argument.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

yes and no. it will become a meaningless thing as time progresses, however at this point, there is still an immense gap of inequality, socially and politically which creates a distinction, both historically and today and into the future.

If people quickly forget that Barack Obama is a black man first, a multi-ethnic American second, they will deny the very achievement of changing the face of american politics to begin with by empowering a black president. If Obama's sister is 'asian' and his mom is 'white' that is fine for them, but Barack has lived his life as black man, in America and in the world, and that has a particular experience which must be told. To literally white wash it behind a "race doesn't count" nonsense defeats the whole accomplishment of this thing, which equalization. By giving a black face to the chief executive, you are telling the rest of America that black people are Americans too, not just second-class Americans, but an intergral part of the ever expanding American fabric.

So, it is crucially important the Barack Obama be continually acknowledged as a black man, and in this regard, it will make all of America conscious of black people, because the bigotry, racism and also just indifference and inexperience of many Americans of all races and backgrounds causes them to generally ignore the black experience to the overall American experience, and these things are one and the same.

There is far too much history to just gloss over Barack Obama's race, and to ignore his black identity is to continue to deny the past and effect more of the same 'half the story' history and politics in America.

in this cracka ass country NO ONE will forget Obama is BLACK. what Obama says, and what I say, is that apart from historical value, his "blackness" is a MOOT POINT. it does not matter as to his job, or what he has to do, or what his decisions may be.

I would much rather think of him, and have evreyone think of him, as the first president in 120 years with a constitutional law background.
that to me is more meaningful than whether he has high levels of melanin in his skin.

[floatingslowly]

oh. ok. I see. we shouldn't call the president black, but it's OK to call the rest of us cracka ass. and by the rest of us, I mean, you guys. I'm no cracka ass.

[Rob Instigator]

call him black. i could care less. what I am saying is that "black" and "white" and "cracka ass" are meaningless terms, whose sole purpose is to create division.

[mangajunky]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I would much rather think of him, and have everyone think of him, as the first president in 120 years with a constitutional law background.
that to me is more meaningful than whether he has high levels of melanin in his skin.

hear hear!

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

"black" and "white" and "cracka ass" are meaningless terms.

I agree. can't we all get along?
and by we, I mean, everybody but the 'ricans.

[Rob Instigator]

Ricans all have big mouths and bad 'tudes.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

the day after the election it made me laugh that every newspaper felt the need to point out that he was the black president

why did it make you laugh?

the joke is not so obvious to everyone, and i'd rather not jump to conclusions.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I always was under the impression that a lot of people looked down upon multiracial marriages and children spawned from those relationship. Not me, of course, I could give a fuck less, but I remember um half-black/half-white kids getting picked on around here. Though perhaps it's because I don't live in New York or something where everyone looks like that. But I distinctly recall people saying back when I was younger than the BIBLE and GOD don't want people "mixin' dose racez".

Anyway, I kind of thought this was a step forward, electing someone of mixed ethnicity as president. Though, it would've been a bigger step if he was actually a full-blooded black man. And, of course, if the general populace still can't accept that gay people love each other, then we're all just moving backwards very rapidly, so this doesn't make a fuck either way.

Races.. who gives a fuck.

a lot of people do, unfortunately, as your own story demonstrates...

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

it means only what YOU designate it to mean in YR HEAD man.

but what goes on in people's heads is what controls their actions. so if enough people believe a fiction (like, say, the "superiority of the aryan race"), guess what happens?

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

By giving a black face to the chief executive, you are telling the rest of America that black people are Americans too, not just second-class Americans, but an intergral part of the ever expanding American fabric.

exactly. while "race" makes no sense scientifically, it is a powerful concept in social dynamics. hence you had a ton of west virgina yahoos who refused to vote for a negro.

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

that to me

yes, but you are not everyone. you're a light-skinned latino. if this was a boricua president, you'd probably feel a little extra emotion. hence, if you're any kind of brownskinned person with an "exotic" name (apu? rajiv? ramon?), you would feel comforted by this historical event-- i mean, seriously, people have racial biases they exercise on an everyday basis.

for me, the constitutional law presidency is a great thing, but i'm more excited by the fact that he's a truly brilliant man with a solid sense of ethics, and i've had it with royal-ass unforgivably selfish dumbfuckswith sociopathic tendencies in power. intelligence is just a fucking great thing.