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Old 05.21.2006, 07:49 AM   #21
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The smashing pumpkins should have bowed out after siamese dream, at the most maybe melancholy and the infifjancjkviacancjkac whatever. Personally I think that Gish was their best record and nothing else they put out challenged that.
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Old 05.21.2006, 08:04 AM   #22
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I hope they all die in a car wreck on the way to the assfuck exhibit.
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Old 05.21.2006, 03:38 PM   #23
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Billy Corgans solo acoustic music is HORSE SHIT. The only way I'd go see them is if all of the original members with or without darcy were together.
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Old 05.21.2006, 03:41 PM   #24
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I hope they all die in a car wreck on the way to the assfuck exhibit.

The funniest thing is you KNOW all the snobs who say stuff like this have owned a copy of Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie at some point in their life
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Old 05.21.2006, 03:49 PM   #25
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I dont know why there is so much hate for them? I'm guessing people would like them more if they weren't one of the biggest bands of the 90's and didnt sell millions of records. I got really obessed with them around the time they broke up. I still listen to their albums on occasion and as long as they don't charge an arm and a leg for tickets (which they probably will) I will probably see them on the "reunion" tour. I just hope that they make it a true reunion and at least get James on guitar. D'arcy would be nice but not as important as James, IMO.
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Old 05.21.2006, 04:36 PM   #26
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The funniest thing is you KNOW all the snobs who say stuff like this have owned a copy of Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie at some point in their life

The funniest thing about this is that EyeballGrowth is a complete idiot. I have NEVER owned a copy of any smashing pumpkins album. EVER.

Therefore, proving your statement false. Good day, twat.
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Old 05.21.2006, 04:49 PM   #27
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I would never ever buy a smashing pumpkins record, I would never voluntarily listen to them, the only time I've listened to them is involuntarily when i stopped by a gay bar as a joke one time.
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Old 05.21.2006, 11:32 PM   #28
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I dont know why there is so much hate for them? I'm guessing people would like them more if they weren't one of the biggest bands of the 90's and didnt sell millions of records. I got really obessed with them around the time they broke up. I still listen to their albums on occasion and as long as they don't charge an arm and a leg for tickets (which they probably will) I will probably see them on the "reunion" tour. I just hope that they make it a true reunion and at least get James on guitar. D'arcy would be nice but not as important as James, IMO.

It's because this board is full of really cool people with amazing musical tastes who don't like anything if it's ever been remotely popular, but somehow Nirvana and Pavement don't count on their list so it's okay to like them. I wish I was as cool as you guys, really. Specially guys that attempt to fake their own death on an internet................ FORUM.
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Old 05.22.2006, 12:07 AM   #29
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Yep, the fact that I never liked them then or now has nothing whatever to do with their complete lameness and incredibly pompous demeanor. If they were an underground band playing in small clubs, I would still say they were unlistenable. You know, like I would say about Kimya Dawson.
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Old 05.22.2006, 12:35 AM   #30
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gish and siamese are good albums, i just find billy corgan and incredibly whiny and posturing band member, no they should not do anything else ever
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Old 05.22.2006, 01:42 AM   #31
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atsonicpark what gay bar was that? I think I might've been there.
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Old 05.22.2006, 03:09 AM   #32
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gish and siamese are good albums, i just find billy corgan and incredibly whiny and posturing band member, no they should not do anything else ever

Finally someone who isn't a whiny suburban indie snob. You know I actually agree with you 80%. The only difference of opinion I have is that if they had James and were willing to tour and actually explore some of their early roots again, I would definately see them. You're right, Gish and Siamese Dream were very good but after they did Melon Collie, Billy Corgan just sort of ruined the band and turned it into this annoying gothic mess. Even when they brought back all 4 members and did that last album they did, you'd think it would have been good but it wasn't, just basically another Billy Corgan solo album, which sort makes you wonder if they should even bother regrouping. When I hear Gish and Siamese dream and Pisces Iscariot, I wonder how someone with that much creativity in his guitar playing and song writing could just be like " Nope, now I'm just gonna play boring techno folk from now on and try to be some shakesperian figure ". But yeah, if they actually got back together with James and really tried to bring back some of their early sounds, I'd totally see them, whether Billy Corgan is whiny or not. I mean come on dude, J Mascis is whiny as hell and when Lou Barlow left it sort of became his solo project rather than Dinosaur Jr., and they started doing lots of acoustic stuff, but you didn't hear anyone complain about that because they didn't sell a million albums or whatever. Sheesh. But yeah, I never cared about Corgan's voice because I never listen to lyrics, I listen to bands for their music, never really for the singers with a few exceptions.

But yeah, now they're back together with just Billy and the Drummer. It's gonna be freaking Zwan all over again. So glad I didn't waste my money on that piece of shit.
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Old 05.22.2006, 04:42 AM   #33
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i will definately go to see them if the tour, even if i have to go all the way down to london. i like them though so i don't mind, i do hope d'arcy will forgive billy for all the bad words he has spoken about her and join them again, i think james will join if D'arcy does.
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Old 05.22.2006, 04:07 PM   #34
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Finally someone who isn't a whiny suburban indie snob. You know I actually agree with you 80%. The only difference of opinion I have is that if they had James and were willing to tour and actually explore some of their early roots again, I would definately see them. You're right, Gish and Siamese Dream were very good but after they did Melon Collie, Billy Corgan just sort of ruined the band and turned it into this annoying gothic mess. Even when they brought back all 4 members and did that last album they did, you'd think it would have been good but it wasn't, just basically another Billy Corgan solo album, which sort makes you wonder if they should even bother regrouping. When I hear Gish and Siamese dream and Pisces Iscariot, I wonder how someone with that much creativity in his guitar playing and song writing could just be like " Nope, now I'm just gonna play boring techno folk from now on and try to be some shakesperian figure ". But yeah, if they actually got back together with James and really tried to bring back some of their early sounds, I'd totally see them, whether Billy Corgan is whiny or not. I mean come on dude, J Mascis is whiny as hell and when Lou Barlow left it sort of became his solo project rather than Dinosaur Jr., and they started doing lots of acoustic stuff, but you didn't hear anyone complain about that because they didn't sell a million albums or whatever. Sheesh. But yeah, I never cared about Corgan's voice because I never listen to lyrics, I listen to bands for their music, never really for the singers with a few exceptions.

But yeah, now they're back together with just Billy and the Drummer. It's gonna be freaking Zwan all over again. So glad I didn't waste my money on that piece of shit.

Would you shut the fuck up already? Jeez. "White Suburban Snob". Nice reverse racism, retard. I've never seen a twat bigger than you and there are some pretty nasty hoes in my area. I ESPECIALLY love how I'm a "suburban snob" for hating terrible music. What is wrong with that? You can like it. That's fine. It just makes your musical tastes horrible.

I don't listen to the Pumpkins for one reason and one reason only. The music sucks. Billy Corgan sucked and always will suck. GET OVER IT. It has absolutely nothing to do with how many records they've sold. I listen to Death Cab for Cutie and they are far from "suburban snob" music. Again, would you read my fucking posts above? As soon as someone gives you a good argument you completely ignore it and act as if you are right. You are just as much of a snob except in the opposite way. You'll give head to a whole band as soon as there album goes platinum.

Get your own opinion and stop reading Rolling Stone, idiot.
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Old 05.22.2006, 04:11 PM   #35
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Hayden doesn't even live in a suburb.
He lives in a hick town.
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Old 05.22.2006, 04:15 PM   #36
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Hayden wasn't even born when the first Pumpkins record came out. It's old man music now, same as Creedence. Well, not the same as Creedence, obviously, they're very good and don't have a singer who makes Bob Dylan look like he isn't the worst car crash to happen to popular consciousness.
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Old 05.22.2006, 04:19 PM   #37
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I was the prime age for the Pumpkins - their releases came out while I was in middle and high school. But to this day all I know about them comes from the music videos I happened to see on MTV. I clearly remember thinking that it was terrible music. I remember thinking the same about Nirvana. All I listened to growing up was classical music.
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When was the first pumpkins released? Fuck it. I don't even care. Nevermind this post. The more posts we have the more chances EyeballGrowth has to ignore any other posts above.
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Old 05.22.2006, 04:22 PM   #39
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It's because this board is full of really cool people with amazing musical tastes who don't like anything if it's ever been remotely popular, but somehow Nirvana and Pavement don't count on their list so it's okay to like them. I wish I was as cool as you guys, really. Specially guys that attempt to fake their own death on an internet................ FORUM.

you know, where i live, if you mention a band called pavement, you get blank stares.

so to stay on topic, i like the first three smashing pumpkins albums, then some stray songs afterwards, i don't mind billy corgan's vocals at all, but he is a fuckhead with enormous ego, i don't care about their stupid reunion and i certainly don't care to argue about how they are really "rad". i mean, who cares?

ohh and i like the smashing pumpkins better than shitvana.
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Old 05.22.2006, 05:37 PM   #40
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So if you don't fucking like them than don't fucking post here idiot. For fucks sake, stop being a stupid whining bitch. So you don't like them, I don't give a shit, nothing you say is going to get me to stop liking them so why are you still posting here? Cause you're a little bitch, that's why. Go fucking lock yourself in a closet and listen to your death cab for cutie emo crap if you don't like Smashing Pumpkins. Are you in the 6th fucking grade or something? Jesus, you're the guy who when some loser writes Iron Maiden rules on a bathroom wall, you actually care enough to write Iron Maiden sucks underneath it and continue writing more and more stuff. What a stupid fucking cunt
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