Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 148

ilduclo · 08.30.2017, 09:17 AM

Brooks & his ilk are a big part of where we are now. Fuck him. Warren would never run for national office, she's too comfy in an assured seat in the Senate. If the mysogynist vote got Clinton, just imagine what it would do to her...I'm expecting a big Tim Kaine campaign...I'd vote for him,especially if he had one of the Castro twins as veep. Those guys have some great Democratic future. I'd imagine they are well vetted, being from TX and having probably been investigated by Rethug operatives for many years.

!@#$%! · 08.30.2017, 09:34 AM

will, i try not to be hyperpartisan and put everyone in the same lot. with brooks i disagree a lot but i've never seen him as a spiteful or poisonous presence in national politics. i feel the same about george will, who is even farther to the right than brooks. you may disagree, but you can reason against their reasoning. it's a fair and civilized debate.

it's much better to have rational conservatives as the opposition than the tribalistic hordes we have to face right now, oblivious to fact and logic and any kind of sense. i miss sensible republicans for sure.

i don't think hillary lost due to misoginy. not saying that wasn't there, of course it's there, but she was also simply a terrible candidate who's taken almost a year to realize (per her recent book) that she should have told trump at the debates to physically back off her. that type of wit of the staircase-- such a long long staircase-- shows zero instincts. and a leader needs good instincts, right then and there, not months later. sorry man. she might have ben qualified but she sucked as a campaigner.

as for kaine... i found him boring, but who knows what he'll do when he's allowed to steal the spotlight? i didn't see much from him as hillary's jabroni.

also i don't know julián castro so i have zero opinion. but would be nice to see someone capable for a change.

Severian · 08.30.2017, 09:55 AM

No Tim Kaine. I think his history with the DNC makes him vulnerable.

Have you guys been taking to Dems about this stuff (assuming you have friends who are Dems or progressives as haven't fully gone off the rails in one way or another)? I have, ahhh... not many, but a few, Dem friends who have maintained some semblance of reason, and they're all quite irate about the DNC.

What I'm hearing is a desire for someone new, and a wish to get a fuckton of distance between the party of 2018-20 and that of 2916-17.

Have you experienced anything like this? I'm really interested, not being snarky.

My gut tells me that someone new needs to run. The vehemence of the hatred for the Democratic Party, even among many democrats, is fucking astounding to me, but it's there. And Republicans use "liberal" like it's the freaking N-word these days.

Severian · 08.30.2017, 09:57 AM

Tim Kaine broke my heart a little when he talked about liking rap. Yeesh. "They call me Lil' Kaine." Wasn't that what he said? Poor guy.

Extremely sensible, and I believe capable leader, but WINTER HAS COME, and we need someone different, challenging, new, preferably young.

!@#$%! · 08.30.2017, 10:11 AM

we had someone different, challenging, new and young in obama, but the legislative majority only lasted 2 years. the rest was a calvary with the enemy promptly gaining the upper hand.

we don't need so much "leaders" as an organized populace, the same way the tea party elected a fuckton of people to congress.

and yes, some of that was astroturfed, but moe tucker was not astroturfed, and it wasn't a purely artificial phenomenon.

problem with the left is they always end up arguing stupid bullshit and splintering into factions. watch "the life of brian" for the perfect hilarious example.

Severian · 08.30.2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

we had someone different, challenging, new and young in obama, but the legislative majority only lasted 2 years. the rest was a calvary with the enemy promptly gaining the upper hand.

we don't need so much "leaders" as an organized populace, the same way the tea party elected a fuckton of people to congress.

and yes, some of that was astroturfed, but moe tucker was not astroturfed, and it wasn't a purely artificial phenomenon.

problem with the left is they always end up arguing stupid bullshit and splintering into factions. watch "the life of brian" for the perfect hilarious example.

Bahahaha!

Hey, I'm just saying, "here's what I'm hearing from people, and here's what I think those people would like to see."

I already said I felt the "battle" should be fought on every level, down to city and county councils and commissions even! More imprortant are the legislative seats, yes, but it's also wise to vet a good candidate for the Oval Office (or, the high chair, which, I think we can all agree, is what it has become).

I'd vote for Kaine in a heartbeat. Better yet Biden. But I'm not hearing that sentiment from people in my district. I'm just sharing what I'm learning, is all.

What are your peeps sayin'?

!@#$%! · 08.30.2017, 12:03 PM

my peeps would all vote democrat if the dems fielded a dead donkey on a hoverboard with a lab rat as runningmate, but that's besides the point.

family is all democrat. my friends unfortunately are a bunch of idealist fools who're paving the way for some distant revolution that will never come. im the "right winger" of the bunch with my pro-market answers to social problems, and shit like that.

it's the "independents" that you have to win over.

The Soup Nazi · 08.30.2017, 12:16 PM

I will be the nominee in 2020.

ilduclo · 08.30.2017, 01:33 PM

Brooks has been particularly bad regarding false equivalency, thus he has been a midwife to awful baby trump.

!@#$%! · 08.30.2017, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ilduclo

Brooks has been particularly bad regarding false equivalency, thus he has been a midwife to awful baby trump.

come on, so many things have been a midwife to trump:

hilary's email server

uma's idiot husband and his stupid dick

democrats calling varmint guns "assault rifles" and alienating rural voters

hillary's super-dull speeches

berniebros refusing to compromise

habtes refusing to believe that trump could win

etc.

here a writer from forbes blames brooks for trump, but from a different perspective:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#4df50bbd711e

look, you could even say that biden's son dying kept biden from running and thus trump won

everything and everyone was midwife to trump. where does it end?

making distinctions is a good thing. discriminating between a& b is a good thing. brooks is not and never will be bannon. better 1000 brookses than 1 david duke.

ilduclo · 08.30.2017, 05:18 PM

well, I sure won't attack Clinton, Biden and Kaine while praising Brooks and G
Fwill

!@#$%! · 08.30.2017, 05:35 PM

well i think hillary was more midwife to trump than some nyt journalist the masses don't read

ilduclo · 08.30.2017, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Severian

WINTER HAS COME, and we need someone different, challenging, new, preferably young.

time for Bernie!

!@#$%! · 08.30.2017, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo

time for Bernie!

he's young at heart

Severian · 08.30.2017, 10:21 PM

Nah, he's old at heart, which is part of why I like him.

Young people are

evollove · 08.31.2017, 03:58 AM

Either Amy Klobuchar or Kirsten Gillibrand would get my unwavering support in 2020.

Misogynists can suck my cock.

Both are super awesome. Drawback? Hard-to-pronounce last names.

Trump could win in 2020. It's true. I know! Crazy! But entirely possible.

Toilet & Bowels · 08.31.2017, 08:44 AM

Do you guys like Nina Turner?

ilduclo · 08.31.2017, 04:43 PM

I suppose Halliburton and a bunch of other sleazes are lined up at the hurricane relief scam trough. Shock Doctrine, indeedy

http://content.time.com/time/arts/ar...666221,00.html

tesla69 · 09.01.2017, 04:19 PM

Is Trump being held under house arrest by the military? Has there already been a coup?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/break...n-turned-away/

“Exactly, so I’d heard from people that Trump is on house arrest,” replied Mike Cernovich, “I thought ‘oh c’mon, the President of the United States, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard’, but I kept digging into it and I kept hearing the same thing over and over again and then, of course, John Bolton wrote his column for National Review and he’s begging people to retweet it, he said ‘this is the only way the President is gonna see it,’ and I’ll say Alex, I don’t really understand, how can Trump not see who he wants to see? This is something I don’t really fully comprehend within the White House. I have talked to a lot of people, it’s a very weird situation.”

!@#$%! · 09.01.2017, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69

Is Trump being held under house arrest by the military? Has there already been a coup?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/break...n-turned-away/

“Exactly, so I’d heard from people that Trump is on house arrest,” replied Mike Cernovich, “I thought ‘oh c’mon, the President of the United States, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard’, but I kept digging into it and I kept hearing the same thing over and over again and then, of course, John Bolton wrote his column for National Review and he’s begging people to retweet it, he said ‘this is the only way the President is gonna see it,’ and I’ll say Alex, I don’t really understand, how can Trump not see who he wants to see? This is something I don’t really fully comprehend within the White House. I have talked to a lot of people, it’s a very weird situation.”

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08.30.2017, 09:17 AM	#2941
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Brooks & his ilk are a big part of where we are now. Fuck him. Warren would never run for national office, she's too comfy in an assured seat in the Senate. If the mysogynist vote got Clinton, just imagine what it would do to her...I'm expecting a big Tim Kaine campaign...I'd vote for him,especially if he had one of the Castro twins as veep. Those guys have some great Democratic future. I'd imagine they are well vetted, being from TX and having probably been investigated by Rethug operatives for many years.
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08.30.2017, 09:34 AM	#2942
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,546	will, i try not to be hyperpartisan and put everyone in the same lot. with brooks i disagree a lot but i've never seen him as a spiteful or poisonous presence in national politics. i feel the same about george will, who is even farther to the right than brooks. you may disagree, but you can reason against their reasoning. it's a fair and civilized debate. it's much better to have rational conservatives as the opposition than the tribalistic hordes we have to face right now, oblivious to fact and logic and any kind of sense. i miss sensible republicans for sure. i don't think hillary lost due to misoginy. not saying that wasn't there, of course it's there, but she was also simply a terrible candidate who's taken almost a year to realize (per her recent book) that she should have told trump at the debates to physically back off her. that type of wit of the staircase-- such a long long staircase-- shows zero instincts. and a leader needs good instincts, right then and there, not months later. sorry man. she might have ben qualified but she sucked as a campaigner. as for kaine... i found him boring, but who knows what he'll do when he's allowed to steal the spotlight? i didn't see much from him as hillary's jabroni. also i don't know julián castro so i have zero opinion. but would be nice to see someone capable for a change.
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08.30.2017, 09:55 AM	#2943
Severian invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11,743	No Tim Kaine. I think his history with the DNC makes him vulnerable. Have you guys been taking to Dems about this stuff (assuming you have friends who are Dems or progressives as haven't fully gone off the rails in one way or another)? I have, ahhh... not many, but a few, Dem friends who have maintained some semblance of reason, and they're all quite irate about the DNC. What I'm hearing is a desire for someone new, and a wish to get a fuckton of distance between the party of 2018-20 and that of 2916-17. Have you experienced anything like this? I'm really interested, not being snarky. My gut tells me that someone new needs to run. The vehemence of the hatred for the Democratic Party, even among many democrats, is fucking astounding to me, but it's there. And Republicans use "liberal" like it's the freaking N-word these days.
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08.30.2017, 09:57 AM	#2944
Severian invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11,743	Tim Kaine broke my heart a little when he talked about liking rap. Yeesh. "They call me Lil' Kaine." Wasn't that what he said? Poor guy. Extremely sensible, and I believe capable leader, but WINTER HAS COME, and we need someone different, challenging, new, preferably young.
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08.30.2017, 10:11 AM	#2945
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,546	we had someone different, challenging, new and young in obama, but the legislative majority only lasted 2 years. the rest was a calvary with the enemy promptly gaining the upper hand. we don't need so much "leaders" as an organized populace, the same way the tea party elected a fuckton of people to congress. and yes, some of that was astroturfed, but moe tucker was not astroturfed, and it wasn't a purely artificial phenomenon. problem with the left is they always end up arguing stupid bullshit and splintering into factions. watch "the life of brian" for the perfect hilarious example.
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08.30.2017, 12:03 PM	#2947
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,546	my peeps would all vote democrat if the dems fielded a dead donkey on a hoverboard with a lab rat as runningmate, but that's besides the point. family is all democrat. my friends unfortunately are a bunch of idealist fools who're paving the way for some distant revolution that will never come. im the "right winger" of the bunch with my pro-market answers to social problems, and shit like that. it's the "independents" that you have to win over.
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08.30.2017, 12:16 PM	#2948
The Soup Nazi invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Del Boca Vista Posts: 18,225	I will be the nominee in 2020. __________________ GADJI BERI BIMBA GLANDRIDI LAULI LONNI CADORI GADJAM A BIM BERI GLASSALA GLANDRIDI E GLASSALA TUFFM I ZIMBRA
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08.30.2017, 01:33 PM	#2949
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Brooks has been particularly bad regarding false equivalency, thus he has been a midwife to awful baby trump.
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08.30.2017, 05:18 PM	#2951
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	well, I sure won't attack Clinton, Biden and Kaine while praising Brooks and G Fwill
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08.30.2017, 05:35 PM	#2952
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,546	well i think hillary was more midwife to trump than some nyt journalist the masses don't read
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08.30.2017, 10:21 PM	#2955
Severian invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11,743	Nah, he's old at heart, which is part of why I like him. Young people are
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08.31.2017, 03:58 AM	#2956
evollove invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,879	Either Amy Klobuchar or Kirsten Gillibrand would get my unwavering support in 2020. Misogynists can suck my cock. Both are super awesome. Drawback? Hard-to-pronounce last names. Trump could win in 2020. It's true. I know! Crazy! But entirely possible.
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08.31.2017, 08:44 AM	#2957
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	Do you guys like Nina Turner?
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08.31.2017, 04:43 PM	#2958
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	I suppose Halliburton and a bunch of other sleazes are lined up at the hurricane relief scam trough. Shock Doctrine, indeedy http://content.time.com/time/arts/ar...666221,00.html
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09.01.2017, 04:19 PM	#2959
tesla69 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4,055	Is Trump being held under house arrest by the military? Has there already been a coup? http://investmentwatchblog.com/break...n-turned-away/ “Exactly, so I’d heard from people that Trump is on house arrest,” replied Mike Cernovich, “I thought ‘oh c’mon, the President of the United States, that’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard’, but I kept digging into it and I kept hearing the same thing over and over again and then, of course, John Bolton wrote his column for National Review and he’s begging people to retweet it, he said ‘this is the only way the President is gonna see it,’ and I’ll say Alex, I don’t really understand, how can Trump not see who he wants to see? This is something I don’t really fully comprehend within the White House. I have talked to a lot of people, it’s a very weird situation.”
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