[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Diesel

So lynch should have reflected reality?

Fucking hell

I'm done

if we dream, and most conscious animals dream (cats, dogs, porpoises, elephants, etc) then dreams ARE part of reality.

either way Lynch did not make dreams, he made FILMS, which reflect who he wished to see onscreen, which was a bunch of white people.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

FILMS, which reflect who he wished to see onscreen, which was a bunch of white people.

that definition of films based on wishes sounds like the basis for a prescription for socialist realism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_realism

but surrealism doesn't work that way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealism

anyway lynch's films are nightmares more than anything else... it makes perfect sense to fill them up with blancos hahahahaaaaa

[Rob Instigator]

boring nightmares.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

boring nightmares.

for sure, some of them have put me to sleep multiple times (i have never been able to watch eraserhead in a single viewing, for example) but they are still great. inland empire i just passed out midway in spite of 3 espressos hahahaha

wild at heart was love at first sight. the botched dune i still like in spite of the butchering. the elephant man, just incredible. lost highway, a bit too dark for me. mulholland drive, took me a couple of watches to crack it, i love it. the first season of twin peaks was great. blue velvet is fucking unforgettable--frank booth is a demon

oftentimes good art is fucking boring. it's not always entertaining. the threshold varies. i like both art and entertainment. it's hard to find both i balance

there is a thai guy who makes these celebrated movies, full of real brown people or whatever which "ethnic realism' (i guess?) demands. he works with non-actors! apitchapong something is the name of the director, look him up. when i see his movies i recognize the quality people see in them, i look at sll his prizes, but my adhd brain is unable to engage the lack of sufficient stimulation, and i snooze promptly

terrence malick--another purported genius i must watch in segments. some beautiful images in them, the narratives don't cut it for my attention requirements. sounds like a navel gazing boomer to me but i gotta admit the shots are fantastic. maybe if he shut up i'd like it more

a lot of woman-made movies are slow. im always yelling at the screen for them to move faster and stop lingering so much on nothing

then again i watched the entire 3+ hours of jeanne dielman in one sitting *the second time i watched it* and it was much more fucking thrilling than the first one which i watched in 3 parts (i have an idea about why is that). oh man, if you like "reality", watch jeanne dielman. dont read anything about it, no synopsis or reviews, just go for it and see what happens

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

boring nightmares.

Not a patch on the mundanity of political correctness.

[Rob Instigator]

his films are still boring tho......

[Rob Instigator]

movies, due to their creation process requiring dozens of not hundreds of :hands" to make the movie happen, are far more "craft" than "art."

The people trying to make film "art" usually fail spectacularly.


Warhol's films suck ass.

even the Cremaster series is boring as fuck, and pointless.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

movies, due to their creation process requiring dozens of not hundreds of :hands" to make the movie happen, are far more "craft" than "art."

nah man, if that is the case then so is opera or orchestral music

film is the total work of art that baudelaire dreamed of and attempted to ascribe to wagnerial operas

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

The people trying to make film "art" usually fail spectacularly.

for sure

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Warhol's films suck ass.

important yes but super boring for sure

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

even the Cremaster series is boring as fuck, and pointless.

not "even" cremaster, the cremaster series is just plain fucking boring (great film stills though)

the other one where he fucks bjork and they turn into whales otoh is horny as hell and not boring at all, it's the greatest porno ever lol

well maybe not the greatest hahahaha but close

[tw2113]

The best thing to emerge from Warhol is Edie Sedgwick