[Glice]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Why should I pay taxes for families with spastic kids? I don't understand.

I've written a letter the Inland Revenue. None of my taxes are going towards you for that horrible comment. Enjoy your broken traffic lights.

[knox]

Originally Posted by Glice

Because, American, there are some things that are necessities for the well-being of the populace. Health is one, education another. And until you have socialised healthcare you are not a modern democracy, you're a despotic hell-hole.

<3

had to spread.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by kinn

Why should I pay taxes when I don't want to pay taxes? If nobody paid taxes, we would just build roads as we needed to. I could drive along in my car as a team of poor people laid tarmac in front of me. I would be able to pay them because I'd be rich. Because I wouldn't have to pay any taxes.

You've just put my mate with a degree in tarmacking out of a job, you heartless bastard.

[kinn]

Seriously guys, why should I have to pay taxes when i believe deep down in my heart and with all my conviction that I just don't want to?

Seriously. Explain that with your "logic" and "reasoning".

Why can't I decide who I want to have my taxes spent on? I could have them all spent on a statue of me, to show how awesome I am.

[Glice]

I will say, however, that I object far more to my taxes paying for continued fatuous military actions than I do some snotty turd studying Lithuanian medieval architecture. And it does surprise me how few Americans get annoyed by quite how much of their money goes to supporting military action, but would happily see poorer families die of a gangrenous leg.

[knox]

Originally Posted by kinn

Why should I pay taxes when I don't want to pay taxes? If nobody paid taxes, we would just build roads as we needed to. I could drive along in my car as a team of poor people laid tarmac in front of me. I would be able to pay them because I'd be rich. Because I wouldn't have to pay any taxes.

But they do anyway, and penalties for not paying taxes in the US can be harsh I hear. It's not "paying taxes" that bothers them is the idea that they could be used to "help" other people. Lazy old ladies who break their hips because they are not careful enough.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by knox

the republican who likes the stooges.

then if nobody is supposed to get anything, why pay taxes at all?
as I have to do it, IT BETTER BE to provide education and health for everyone - or what else?

Me diggin' the Stooges has absolutely nothing to do with this. That's retarded. And as I've already made clear, I'm ANYTHING but a republican.

[Glice]

You are right-wing though. Democrats being left only relative to the Republicans. And, besides which, it's probably only your age. You'll wake up either to being wrong or the fact that you're a natural Republican soon enough.

[knox]

Originally Posted by Glice

You are right-wing though. Democrats being left only relative to the Republicans. And, besides which, it's probably only your age. You'll wake up either to being wrong or the fact that you're a natural Republican soon enough.

I vote second option.

[kinn]

Seriously guys, but seriously, if I don't WANT to pay taxes, why should I have to?

I saw this guy at the bus stop this morning, he was all smelly and poor and fat, and he was eating an ice cream. I had to get on the bus to go to work but he just sat there. He must not have a job. When I saw him eating that ice cream all I could think about was how my taxes had paid for it and it wasn't fair that I had to go to work and he probably would just sit at the bus stop all day eating ice cream. At lunch time I read the Daily Mail which proved what a scrounger he was. But I couldn't believe the extent of his scrounging. The massive headline said "SHOCK! SCANDAL!" and so my blood started to boil. Then it had all these figures and percentages and words like "OUTRAGE!" "DISGRACE!". The story was already written in my head, I barely needed to read the article. I was so angry all I could do was act like a dick to everyone in work for the rest of the day. I went around shouting at people to stop slacking and work harder. This country is falling apart. Some of my co workers are black, they'll probably give me Bongo Mumbo disease if I share a coke can with them. I went home and collapsed into utter depression on my sofa. I turned on ITV but there was no programmes about middle class detectives brutally beating working class teenagers found smoking a joint.

This was going to be a crap night. Usually when you watch those programmes for a brief moment everything in the universe fits into place. Because when the cop has the poor kid with his hoodie on in the interview room, you just know that he is the murderer, and also a paedo and a drug runner and a serial rapist. You see it's hard to explain, you can discern this all from just looking at him and the evil sounding music. This is how the world should work and I am eternally confused in real life when I meet people and all my assumptions about them turn out to be apparently "false" and "all in my head". Real life should work like this, but it doesn't because of political correctness and the euro.

I felt so angry at the tv, because they were trying to be all fancy and smart and it turned out the poor guy didn't do it and it was the rich woman. all I could think of doing was ringing up a friend and insinuating that her husband had an affair. Not that it was true, it just felt like the right thing to do. However when I phoned her up she didn't seem to want to listen to me harangue her about what was wrong with her life and what a lazy bitch she was and how she was a disgrace and it was all her fault for being so stupid. She hung up the phone, which confirmed to me that she was a cunt all along and i was fully entitled to have told the boss at work that she was stealing office supplies when she wasn't. This lost her the promotion she wanted, but I had been right all along and now I had proof due to her rudeness on the phone.

Things were getting desperate and I had spent all my savings on lottery tickets and pyramid schemes. However the real cause of my financial woes was the euro and benefits cheats. At the time it was 2008 and we still hadn't got rid of that crook Brown yet. Obviously because of him and benefits cheats hard working people like me were eternally poor. I needed to do something drastic, and spent the night thinking about what it could be. Then I suddenly had an epiphany, I would go and buy a lottery ticket because I felt really really lucky all of a sudden. When it turned out that I lost I was so angry and depressed I drove my car into a wall. I then lost the rest of my money attempting to sue my doctor for not noticing I was depressed and thus not stopping me from crashing my car.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Me diggin' the Stooges has absolutely nothing to do with this. That's retarded. And as I've already made clear, I'm ANYTHING but a republican.

Stop feeling like you want to tie black people who aren't Buddy Guy to the back of your sway-truck and drag them in an open field while driving then.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Glice

You are right-wing though. Democrats being left only relative to the Republicans. And, besides which, it's probably only your age. You'll wake up either to being wrong or the fact that you're a natural Republican soon enough.

Arguably, yes. But only to those that feel as if their opinion is the only one that should matter (which yes, in this case is the vast majority). I assure you, I hold a more "liberal" view on most other issues, but I fear this is mostly a result of me not having a Christian sense of moral/outlook on the world around me. I support gay marriage, I support marijuana legalization, I'm pro-choice, + I see no shortage of teachers or doctors...thankfully because there are some people out there that realize if THEY want something, they should earn it. I shouldn't be responsible for assisting them in earning it unless it benefits me and the rest of society as a whole. And again, I repeat, there are NO shortage of teachers or doctors. Truth be told (at least in this part of the world) many positions in the medical/educational markets are FLOODED. People with degrees/certifications not being able to find jobs BECAUSE they are not needed. It wouldn't benefit me nor anyone else If I were responsible for paying for all these degrees that are doing absolutely nothing. And if everyone could go to school for free, then this situation would likely be even worse than it already is.

This shit would serve little purpose to those, like myself, that no interest in attending a university. What you, or anyone else, may feel about me matters very little...not EVERYONE that opts to not go to college is an idiot.

Free health care is an issue I might be able to support. But only to those that can not afford it. Mankind has gotten ahead of itself. We are invisioning a world that is in no way possible for us to currently live in. As of now, WE NEED gas station attendants (sadly enough). We NEED waitresses + cab drivers + garbage men + hospital janitors + all sorts of shit that does not, and should not require a degree (again, sadly enough...not the needing a degree part, but the fact that people think this world needs such rubbish).

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Glice

I've written a letter the Inland Revenue. None of my taxes are going towards you for that horrible comment. Enjoy your broken traffic lights.

Your actions are making me feel a bit special.

[Genteel Death]

When did society need fucking waitresses?

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

When did society need fucking waitresses?

That's what I was getting at in the very last part of my previous post...we shouldn't, but as long as people are eating out they are a major benefit.

"poor" isn't something we will likely ever see vanish.

[verme (prevaricator)]

how can an healthier, educated populace be beneficial to society?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

[Genteel Death]

Yes Sway
No Sway

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)

how can an healthier, educated populace be beneficial to society?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

But university attendance is not necessary in achieving this.

[kinn]

it is if you want things like doctors, research scientists, well read and studied politicians and journalists, anyone to have an education with not only the best resources but access to the best minds the country has, etc. etc.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by kinn

it is if you want things like doctors.

Yeah, but we already have them.