Does anyone here use the Sony Audio Forge program to record?

SONIC GAIL · 09.16.2010, 12:18 PM

If so I need advice. I am trying to get this demo finished up, but I need to clean up the sound. If you have listened I am sure you have noticed the extra noise and air sounds in the recording. I cannot figure out if this program will allow me to record multitracks and mix them. If it does I cannot for the life of me figure it out.

Also any other tricks to help using the program would be helpful.

freshchops has been kind enough to give me some advice

but he is not familiar with sound forge. I would like to not have to buy a new program if possible, but I am fully willing to if it is affordable and can give me a cleaner sound. I am also using an Apex usb mic (which is what the program suggested on the box) it is nice, but I probably am not using it to it's full potential.

I will appreciate any suggestions yall have. Thanks in advance!

akprodr · 09.16.2010, 01:08 PM

No, it will only record a stereo track at a time. It is an audio editor rather than a DAW. Better known as a video editor, Sony's Vegas got its start as and is still a decent multi-track record/editor. However, I've never used it as such.

terminal pharmacy · 09.18.2010, 05:01 PM

The program itself won't give you a cleaner sound. It will only record what goes in. Different programs do give you different quality of sound. Pro tools sounds different to Digital Performer etc. You will find all programs sound a little bit different. Also as you are using a usb microphone you will only get the quality that both the microphone and your internal sound card can produce. If you are serious about heading in the direction of recording I can give you plenty of advice and the start of that would be not to use Sound Forge or a USB microphone, buy an external sound card with proper mic pre amps and use a decent piece of software. There is a saying in the audio industry which is "shit in shit out"

ann ashtray · 09.19.2010, 12:38 AM

I've used Sound Forge a pretty good bit, and quite enjoy it. Being that it is not multi-track, the only way to record multiple instruments/voices is to do them all in one take. A great program for documenting ideas, or for singer/songwriter sorts that have no need for any accompanying instruments/etc.

Me and a friend used to use it. We'd set up a mic near two amplifiers and just kinda go crazy. Actually, a lot of the Cen.Quo.Akt stuff was recorded using Sound Forge.

My suggestion, look into Sony Acid. Pretty affordable, fairly user friendly, and allows many tracks so you can record your parts separately + add too/take away stuff you don't like.

As far as a cleaner sound....a lot of this can have to do with yr microphone + the way its set up.

Also, (and it's by no means necessary), mixers can go a long way....and you can get 'em for fairly cheap sometimes depending on what ya want.

All of this said, I don't think, judging from the recorded material that I've heard from you guys, that any of it sounds "bad" by any means. I personally kinda dig the lo-fi quality, but that's just me. It adds character and gives it a very "personal" feel.

Green_mind · 09.19.2010, 05:00 PM

Can't you mix tracks together on Sound Forge?
You could download some free software like Audacity, I'm sure that has the ability to mix multitracks.

I really have to remember the phrase, "shit in shit out"!

hevusa · 09.19.2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

There is a saying in the audio industry which is "shit in shit out"

There is also the saying "You can't polish a turd"

akprodr · 09.19.2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Green_mind

Can't you mix tracks together on Sound Forge?

You can but it's not very useful--I don't believe there is any kind of preview--you have to try it and undo if the levels aren't right.

terminal pharmacy · 09.19.2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

There is also the saying "You can't polish a turd"

thats a generic for any use, shit in shit out is inregard to if your input is shit then your output is going to be shit 'cos there is nothing in a signal chain that can fix a grabage input

terminal pharmacy · 09.19.2010, 05:40 PM

try reaper http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

this is a very good program and is an incredible bargain @ $60. much multi tracking and midi goodness.

hevusa · 09.19.2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

thats a generic for any use, shit in shit out is inregard to if your input is shit then your output is going to be shit 'cos there is nothing in a signal chain that can fix a grabage input

I went to college for audio production and I heard the turd one much more. Just saying.

I recommend Nuendo, Cubase or Pro Tools (In that order).

terminal pharmacy · 09.20.2010, 09:27 AM

Hope the course worked out for you... Just saying

hevusa · 09.20.2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

Hope the course worked out for you... Just saying

It was a great experience. I'm the first person in my family to earn a college degree.

terminal pharmacy · 09.20.2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

It was a great experience. I'm the first person in my family to earn a college degree.

That's awesome, good stuff!

SONIC GAIL · 09.20.2010, 12:03 PM

Thanks for all the help fellas Im tryin out some of the suggestions. I did'nt think I could multirecord on it cause I usually figure that stuff out by now. As sway said though it is good for laying out ideas. Ryan forgets what hes played by the time I get home and you havr to capture that moment sometimes

09.16.2010, 12:18 PM	#1
SONIC GAIL invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I moved from hillbilly Florida to hillbilly Alabama Posts: 3,723	If so I need advice. I am trying to get this demo finished up, but I need to clean up the sound. If you have listened I am sure you have noticed the extra noise and air sounds in the recording. I cannot figure out if this program will allow me to record multitracks and mix them. If it does I cannot for the life of me figure it out. Also any other tricks to help using the program would be helpful. freshchops has been kind enough to give me some advice but he is not familiar with sound forge. I would like to not have to buy a new program if possible, but I am fully willing to if it is affordable and can give me a cleaner sound. I am also using an Apex usb mic (which is what the program suggested on the box) it is nice, but I probably am not using it to it's full potential. I will appreciate any suggestions yall have. Thanks in advance! __________________
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09.16.2010, 01:08 PM	#2
akprodr the end of the ugly Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mt Clair Posts: 1,129	No, it will only record a stereo track at a time. It is an audio editor rather than a DAW. Better known as a video editor, Sony's Vegas got its start as and is still a decent multi-track record/editor. However, I've never used it as such. __________________ Odi profanum vulgus et arceo
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09.18.2010, 05:01 PM	#3
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	The program itself won't give you a cleaner sound. It will only record what goes in. Different programs do give you different quality of sound. Pro tools sounds different to Digital Performer etc. You will find all programs sound a little bit different. Also as you are using a usb microphone you will only get the quality that both the microphone and your internal sound card can produce. If you are serious about heading in the direction of recording I can give you plenty of advice and the start of that would be not to use Sound Forge or a USB microphone, buy an external sound card with proper mic pre amps and use a decent piece of software. There is a saying in the audio industry which is "shit in shit out"
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09.19.2010, 12:38 AM	#4
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	I've used Sound Forge a pretty good bit, and quite enjoy it. Being that it is not multi-track, the only way to record multiple instruments/voices is to do them all in one take. A great program for documenting ideas, or for singer/songwriter sorts that have no need for any accompanying instruments/etc. Me and a friend used to use it. We'd set up a mic near two amplifiers and just kinda go crazy. Actually, a lot of the Cen.Quo.Akt stuff was recorded using Sound Forge. My suggestion, look into Sony Acid. Pretty affordable, fairly user friendly, and allows many tracks so you can record your parts separately + add too/take away stuff you don't like. As far as a cleaner sound....a lot of this can have to do with yr microphone + the way its set up. Also, (and it's by no means necessary), mixers can go a long way....and you can get 'em for fairly cheap sometimes depending on what ya want. All of this said, I don't think, judging from the recorded material that I've heard from you guys, that any of it sounds "bad" by any means. I personally kinda dig the lo-fi quality, but that's just me. It adds character and gives it a very "personal" feel. __________________ Team Thurston!
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09.19.2010, 05:00 PM	#5
Green_mind the end of the ugly Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 827	Can't you mix tracks together on Sound Forge? You could download some free software like Audacity, I'm sure that has the ability to mix multitracks. I really have to remember the phrase, "shit in shit out"!
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09.19.2010, 05:40 PM	#9
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	try reaper http://www.reaper.fm/download.php this is a very good program and is an incredible bargain @ $60. much multi tracking and midi goodness.
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09.20.2010, 09:27 AM	#11
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	Hope the course worked out for you... Just saying
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09.20.2010, 12:03 PM	#14
SONIC GAIL invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: I moved from hillbilly Florida to hillbilly Alabama Posts: 3,723	Thanks for all the help fellas Im tryin out some of the suggestions. I did'nt think I could multirecord on it cause I usually figure that stuff out by now. As sway said though it is good for laying out ideas. Ryan forgets what hes played by the time I get home and you havr to capture that moment sometimes __________________
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