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View Poll Results: Are you more a rocker or a rock and roller?
Rocker 2 9.09%
Rock and roller 9 40.91%
Neither. I'm country. 1 4.55%
Neither. I'm "indie." 4 18.18%
I'm a little of both. 4 18.18%
What the fuck are you talking about, gmku? 2 9.09%
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Old 06.14.2007, 01:53 PM   #1
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There's a difference. I think of rockers as more into stuff that evolved from rock and roll, especially that which maybe could be argued doesn't swing as much as rock and roll. I'm not sure I quite have my head around this enough to cite examples... Okay, here goes... Keith Richards, rock and roller... Thurston Moore, rocker... The Stooges, rock and roll... Pixies, rock...

What do you think?
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Old 06.14.2007, 02:08 PM   #2
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which would be the closest to "goth".

I'm soooo goth.
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Old 06.14.2007, 02:09 PM   #3
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We debated this once before, the difference between "rock" and "rock & roll," but I can't be bothered to find it. Suffice it to say it got ugly, and no intelligent conclusions were reached anyhow.

I personally don't give a shit what the rest of you listen to, anyhow.
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Old 06.14.2007, 02:16 PM   #4
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Suffice it to say it got ugly, and no intelligent conclusions were reached anyhow.

I'm having a twilight zone moment.

which message board have you been reading that DOES reach intelligent conclusions????

link me or it didn't happen!
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Old 06.14.2007, 02:17 PM   #5
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Old 06.14.2007, 02:22 PM   #6
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Old 06.14.2007, 03:12 PM   #7
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I'm so 'indie', man.
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Old 06.14.2007, 03:27 PM   #8
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We debated this once before, the difference between "rock" and "rock & roll," but I can't be bothered to find it. Suffice it to say it got ugly, and no intelligent conclusions were reached anyhow.

I personally don't give a shit what the rest of you listen to, anyhow.

I guess I'm not too invested in debating the difference. I think I know the difference, and to me, it's pretty clear. I'm just curious how others think of themselves--predisposed to be rockers or rockandrollers.
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Old 06.14.2007, 03:51 PM   #9
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Old 06.14.2007, 04:02 PM   #10
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Rocker - A person who takes rock music more seriously than it should be. Generally someone who grows into thinking that everything rocks, even when it's plain evident that they can't even catch up with the payments they need to make in order to support the numerous prole they spawned in the name of thinking that rock & roll would take care of reality.


Rock & Roller - He who is into the fun to be had with it, both while playing it or just listening to it. Generally this person will also make 'wrong' choices, but they are still determined that for as long as they keep any emotional detachment with whoever wants to spoil their fun, everything will be ok. It's a trait of this people to also act extravagant in a way that is contagious, rather than tedious or narrow minded.
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Old 06.14.2007, 04:02 PM   #11
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I'd say I'm more rock 'n' roll. I'm really into the old rock thing lately.
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Old 06.14.2007, 05:26 PM   #12
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Out of the choices of rocker and rock n roller, definitely he latter for me.

Rock = pompous.
RnR = fun.

That's my definition.
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Old 06.14.2007, 05:30 PM   #13
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Old 06.14.2007, 05:31 PM   #14
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I really have no problem with pompous.
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Old 06.14.2007, 05:36 PM   #15
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I really have no problem with pompous.

Me neither. It's kind of a plus in a rocker.

There can be crossover though: a rock n roller can be fun and pompous, but a rocker can only be pompous.

I'm just writing words that come into my head now, you understand. No fully formed theories to be found here.
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Old 06.14.2007, 06:33 PM   #16
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Old 06.14.2007, 06:41 PM   #17
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Rocker - A person who takes rock music more seriously than it should be. Generally someone who grows into thinking that everything rocks, even when it's plain evident that they can't even catch up with the payments they need to make in order to support the numerous prole they spawned in the name of thinking that rock & roll would take care of reality.


Rock & Roller - He who is into the fun to be had with it, both while playing it or just listening to it. Generally this person will also make 'wrong' choices, but they are still determined that for as long as they keep any emotional detachment with whoever wants to spoil their fun, everything will be ok. It's a trait of this people to also act extravagant in a way that is contagious, rather than tedious or narrow minded.

Honestly, this is one of the best definitions i've heard of either.

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Old 06.14.2007, 06:47 PM   #18
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It all comes down to genes. Gene Vincent and Gene Simmons. To be a guy called Gene, you'd have to be a total rock n roller.

Think about it, the three ultimate symbols of boring ol' rock were called Jim: Hendrix, Page and Morrisson.

Gene or Jim. It's as simple as that.
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Old 06.14.2007, 06:53 PM   #19
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I'm a little bit country. My brother is a little bit rock and roll.
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Old 06.14.2007, 07:02 PM   #20
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My brother is a little bit rock and roll.

Is your brother called Gene?
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