Conceputol (anyone heard of them?)

Iain · 03.19.2007, 06:46 AM

I got a 7" by these guys the other day (Bulk Fiber/Space Invaders) and it's pretty good in a geekier-than-devo synthpop way. I can't find any information about them other than who was in the band and the fact that it was listed as "Early US No Wave" in the shop. I doubt that's the case because it doesn't sound like it's from the late 70's.

Anyone shed anymore light?

Washing Machine · 03.19.2007, 06:53 AM

never heard of them....but I know how you feel, theres so little on the internet about No Wave. I'm been trying to get a recording/infomation/anything on 'Rat At Rat R', cant find anything but I keep hearing their name....maybe im just dumb and looking in all the wrong places

Iain · 03.19.2007, 06:59 AM

Rock & Roll Is Dead, Long Live Rat At Rat R (Neutral) 1985
Stainless Steel/Free Dope for Cops & Kids EP (Purge/Sound League) 1988
Rat At Rat R (Sound League) 1991
Rat At Rat R (you figure out the anagram, sport) was one of the brighter lights of the NYC noise-groove scene back in '83. Originally hailing from Philadelphia, the quartet was formed in '81 by poet/guitarist Victor Poison-tˆte, and reassembled on the Lower East Side a year or so later. Their craven guitar-crack, female bass player (Glenn Branca's cousin, Sonda Andersson), and shouty-dunty approach to tunerism soon put them in the company of Live Skull, Swans and Sonic Youth. At the time, Rat At Rat R was probably the most trad-sounding of these combos, but the group imploded before garnering much positive notice outside its neighborhood. The records combine swinging, fucked-up guitar rock with neo-artsy mouth action.
[Byron Coley]

I found the above about Rat At Rat R. There's even less about Conceputol. Mainly info from the sleeve of the single and the single being listed on peoples trade/for sale/wants lists. And wfmu posted it on their blog but didn't have much info either. And if they don't have much info...

Washing Machine · 03.19.2007, 07:04 AM

Yeah thats all i could find on Rat At Rat R too

Where did you hear of Conceputol?

Iain · 03.19.2007, 07:15 AM

I didn't really. I just saw the 7" in a record shop and it looked like it might be interesting and was only £1.50. It's pretty good.

DJ Rick · 03.19.2007, 04:56 PM

Don't know how it got into the list of "no wave" records, but the 7" by Conceputol is good fun novelty new wave. "Bulk Fiber" is indeed ultra-nerdy. I recited lyrics of that song to my roommate every now and then. He's got all kindsa weird things in his diet because of protein malabsorption problems, so even some of the more obscure dietetic references in "Bulk Fiber" are fairly well-understood at my house.

Been a fan of the record since hearing it on KDVS as a kid, then finding it years later when I made it my mission to listen to every single 70's/80's punk/new-wave/DIY artifact in the expansive 7" vinyl collection there. I wrote a review of it about five years ago which seems to have disappeared from most search engines.

If you are a fan of this one, I recommend you find the only 7" ever by a band called Observers Observing Observables.

Iain · 03.19.2007, 05:22 PM

Thanks! I don't know why it was labelled nowave either but it's nice nonetheless.

I thought you might be able to provide some more info on this...I was going to address you directly in my first post infact because I though it anyone was going to have heard this single it would have been you.

I'll keep an eye out for the Observers.. one. Whether I'll find it or not is another matter.

03.19.2007, 06:46 AM	#1
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	I got a 7" by these guys the other day (Bulk Fiber/Space Invaders) and it's pretty good in a geekier-than-devo synthpop way. I can't find any information about them other than who was in the band and the fact that it was listed as "Early US No Wave" in the shop. I doubt that's the case because it doesn't sound like it's from the late 70's. Anyone shed anymore light?
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03.19.2007, 06:53 AM	#2
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	never heard of them....but I know how you feel, theres so little on the internet about No Wave. I'm been trying to get a recording/infomation/anything on 'Rat At Rat R', cant find anything but I keep hearing their name....maybe im just dumb and looking in all the wrong places __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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03.19.2007, 06:59 AM	#3
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	Rock & Roll Is Dead, Long Live Rat At Rat R (Neutral) 1985 Stainless Steel/Free Dope for Cops & Kids EP (Purge/Sound League) 1988 Rat At Rat R (Sound League) 1991 Rat At Rat R (you figure out the anagram, sport) was one of the brighter lights of the NYC noise-groove scene back in '83. Originally hailing from Philadelphia, the quartet was formed in '81 by poet/guitarist Victor Poison-tˆte, and reassembled on the Lower East Side a year or so later. Their craven guitar-crack, female bass player (Glenn Branca's cousin, Sonda Andersson), and shouty-dunty approach to tunerism soon put them in the company of Live Skull, Swans and Sonic Youth. At the time, Rat At Rat R was probably the most trad-sounding of these combos, but the group imploded before garnering much positive notice outside its neighborhood. The records combine swinging, fucked-up guitar rock with neo-artsy mouth action. [Byron Coley] I found the above about Rat At Rat R. There's even less about Conceputol. Mainly info from the sleeve of the single and the single being listed on peoples trade/for sale/wants lists. And wfmu posted it on their blog but didn't have much info either. And if they don't have much info...
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03.19.2007, 07:04 AM	#4
Washing Machine expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cardiff, Spiderland Posts: 1,465	Yeah thats all i could find on Rat At Rat R too Where did you hear of Conceputol? __________________ ....Of Course its some kinda cosmic payback for being too ironic!
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03.19.2007, 07:15 AM	#5
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	I didn't really. I just saw the 7" in a record shop and it looked like it might be interesting and was only £1.50. It's pretty good.
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03.19.2007, 04:56 PM	#6
DJ Rick 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sacto (CA) Institute for Record Collection Scrutiny Posts: 817	Don't know how it got into the list of "no wave" records, but the 7" by Conceputol is good fun novelty new wave. "Bulk Fiber" is indeed ultra-nerdy. I recited lyrics of that song to my roommate every now and then. He's got all kindsa weird things in his diet because of protein malabsorption problems, so even some of the more obscure dietetic references in "Bulk Fiber" are fairly well-understood at my house. Been a fan of the record since hearing it on KDVS as a kid, then finding it years later when I made it my mission to listen to every single 70's/80's punk/new-wave/DIY artifact in the expansive 7" vinyl collection there. I wrote a review of it about five years ago which seems to have disappeared from most search engines. If you are a fan of this one, I recommend you find the only 7" ever by a band called Observers Observing Observables. __________________ http://artforspastics.blogspot.com/
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03.19.2007, 05:22 PM	#7
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	Thanks! I don't know why it was labelled nowave either but it's nice nonetheless. I thought you might be able to provide some more info on this...I was going to address you directly in my first post infact because I though it anyone was going to have heard this single it would have been you. I'll keep an eye out for the Observers.. one. Whether I'll find it or not is another matter.
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