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Old 05.14.2007, 01:39 PM   #1
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What's your definition of a useless individual in this society? Here's a few professions that i think are no use in case of violent confrontation or war:

Waiter
Web designer
Ticket collector
Taxman
Intellectuals in general are useless because they sit around too much just thinking, writing and talking bollocks
Teachers in their majority
Coppers
Many a musician
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Old 05.14.2007, 01:46 PM   #2
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Old 05.14.2007, 01:51 PM   #3
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Students are by definition a blank canvas, so i wouldn't call them uselss entirely. They can be, but that is because of their young age, so i'm partial to them than most.
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Old 05.14.2007, 01:57 PM   #4
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You say many a musican, but musicans goes under the heading of art, and since art criticism is so debatable, who's to dictate who is a useless musican and who's a vital one. All art is important, even bad art, art is a form of expression and if we as humans don't express ourselves in some form, then yes we are useless.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:02 PM   #5
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In case of violent confrontation or war, that's what i said. Obviously there are artists who could switch to fighting mode if need be. The same as a waiter etc, it's just a sweeping generalization that comes from the practicality of a profession or vocation, that's all.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:05 PM   #6
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:09 PM   #7
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Ok, you' ve pretty much missed the point of the original question and kicked off in argumentative style already, so since this is the internet, i won't bother with a proper reply.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:10 PM   #8
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Lots of the professions in the world are motivated by the desire for futile goods and services, which our society endorses.

One day I might be a graphic designer, but I'm quite sure I wont be contributing a lot to the society. Although I don't think people like graphic designers are totally useless, like for instance when they're actually inventing something that the community benefits from, or making the world more aesthetic.
Mostly they're designing ads for nike of some shit like that.
Thus I'd rate my possible future profession as important as door to door vacuum cleaner sellers.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:11 PM   #9
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In case of violent confrontation or war, that's what i said. Obviously there are artists who could switch to fighting mode if need be. The same as a waiter etc, it's just a sweeping generalization that comes from the practicality of a profession or vocation, that's all.

I'm confused now. If you get rid of the waiters who do you leave the tip for?
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:16 PM   #10
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I'm confused now. If you get rid of the waiters who do you leave the tip for?
You just don't, if that's the reply that you weren't expecting.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:16 PM   #11
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:17 PM   #12
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Now that I understand what you're asking...all job positions could be used in war. As intelligence or disinformation if nothing else. Can you imagine how a well-placed waiter dropping arsenic in the enemy commander's drink could help out? But he would obviously lose out on his tip, though. So I don't know.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:18 PM   #13
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you are so wrong.

all of the above are totally useful "in case of violent confrontation or war".

without them "collateral damage" would have to be redefined! a war just isn't a war without civilian casualties.
Ironic replies need no applying. Enough of them on a daily basis.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:19 PM   #14
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You just don't, if that's the reply that you weren't expecting.

Oh, I figured it out already. The waitress.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:20 PM   #15
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Now that I understand what you're asking...all job positions could be used in war. As intelligence or disinformation if nothing else. Can you imagine how a well-placed waiter dropping arsenic in the enemy commander's drink could help out? But he would obviously lose out on his tip, though. So I don't know.
Yeah, but what if the waiter starts taking himself seriously? The cook always calls the shots, the same as the film director who always has the last word.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:26 PM   #16
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Ironic replies need no applying. Enough of them on a daily basis.

not a problem. I can fix that.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:27 PM   #17
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What's your definition of a useless individual in this society? Here's a few professions that i think are no use in case of violent confrontation or war:

Waiter
Web designer
Ticket collector
Taxman
Intellectuals in general are useless because they sit around too much just thinking, writing and talking bollocks
Teachers in their majority
Coppers
Many a musician
Me

false sir, all false

waiters & WAITRESSES in particular are essential for entertaining the troops when they are on leave. you've never seen das boot?

web designers would work in the propaganda effort-- spewing information for civilians-- we all know that the internet was designed to survive in the case of nuclear attack.

ticket collector -- what kind are these? "tickets please"??

taxman - we all know war runs on taxes. no taxes = no war. maybe a good case to get rid of them in the first place.

intellectuals - let's kill them all now. actually, some of them could be put to good work in intelligence, dealing with translations, and what not. and more propaganda of course.

teachers - somebody has to instruct those motherfucking soldiers in proper communications and all sorts of death-supporting skills, such as embalming... but anyway, the troops need teachers. besides, if the war becomes protracted, someone has to train the next generation of little goons.

coppers - ?? cops? they prevent looting.

musicians - musicians are like whores-- they are needed to keep the troops happy.

you - who are the troops going to fight for if not for their queen???
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:29 PM   #18
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Yeah, but what if the waiter starts taking himself seriously? The cook always calls the shots, the same as the film director who always has the last word.

Then the cook needs to study the old Hollywood system to keep them in line. And create as many jobs as possible that handles an order from when it's being made up to when it's seved and after. Have one waiter do the drink order. Another one do the food order. A different one bring the orders. Plus the busboy and the different waiter who handles the check. That'll keep the serious waiter in check.
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Old 05.14.2007, 02:32 PM   #19
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Today i'm feeling flippant and belligerent (yeah, right), but here comes home worker with a cuppa tea in his brain. No smiley unless i quoted your long mini-operetta, so says the internet (gmku).

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Old 05.14.2007, 02:38 PM   #20
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I would say everyone is useful in the event of war.

 
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