[TheMadcapLaughs]

saw this, should be interesting.


The idea of Stephen Malkmus and Beck working on music in a studio together-- trading jokes nobody else understands, reminiscing about the 1990s, emitting lethal doses of nonchalant cool-- is the stuff of alt-rock dreams. Until now. Because that shit actually happened.
Originally mentioned in a Mojo article and confirmed by Matador, Malkmus and his band the Jicks recorded with Beck earlier this year. (Via Fluxblog.) But, thanks to Malkmus's 2010 commitments with some other band, the fruits of the collaboration probably won't be heard until next year, according to the label. So try to pace your excitement on this one.

http://pitchfork.com/news/38733-step...ing-with-beck/

[ni'k]

because we are pitchfork and we have dreams of big waves of indie blandness crushing the earth with its blandness and offering us exclusive first listen and review rights before doomsday.

[FreshChops]

Originally Posted by ni'k

because we are pitchfork and we have dreams of big waves of indie blandness crushing the earth with its blandness and offering us exclusive first listen and review rights before doomsday.

there is always Mtv.com

[alyasa]

Originally Posted by FreshChops

there is always Mtv.com

Or even sonicyouth.com. Maybe even soundgardenworld.com

[dazedcola]

Im surprised the two havent collaborated until now, they seem like two very like minded individuals that would go so well together.

[Jeremy]

I'm pretty excited about this one myself. The last Jicks record was great, and the new songs they've been playing live are very strong so far. People here are getting excited about new stuff by Korn, Limp Bizkit, Deftones, etc and they can have them if that's what they want. I'm most excited about this one though.

~Jeremy~

[atsonicpark]

I'm excited, too! It'll be the most fun album of the year. Because it's always hilarious to see two boring musicians who haven't done anything particularly noteworthy in about 15 years, about to make some boring, bland, predictable poo in the hopes that they'll both be able to afford a nice new mansion by appealing to people who want more of the same. REJOICE!

Pitchfork rating: 8.3 (their record companies bought tons of ad space for the month)

Also..
MTV.com?

Brainwashed.com.

Blastitude.com.

Also, this is somewhat unrelated, but I often wonder this.. we live in the most exciting time for music ever. We live in the most exciting time for HEARING music, with soulseek and torrents which have been around forever -- but also for blogs with tons of great posts, shoving out brilliant, obscure music with great descriptions and such. Every band EVER is a click, and a 5 minute download away. Yet people still cling to the same heroes of yesteryear. It's really a mystery to me. Not directing this at ANYONE in this thread, by the way. People like what they like -- whatever. It's just kinda odd to me, how few people really ever search out music.

[GravitySlips]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Also, this is somewhat unrelated, but I often wonder this.. we live in the most exciting time for music ever. We live in the most exciting time for HEARING music, with soulseek and torrents which have been around forever -- but also for blogs with tons of great posts, shoving out brilliant, obscure music with great descriptions and such. Every band EVER is a click, and a 5 minute download away. Yet people still cling to the same heroes of yesteryear. It's really a mystery to me. Not directing this at ANYONE in this thread, by the way. People like what they like -- whatever. It's just kinda odd to me, how few people really ever search out music.

you're right in some ways, but it doesn't mean people can't check this out and check out the variety of stuff on blogs as well. after all, your argument could perhaps be applied back to you ... in this era of such diverse and exciting music, you're (from what I've read on here) still concerning yourself with limp bizkit and korn. I think you're being presumptuous if you think people who are perhaps interested and excited to hear this aren't also mining blogs and soulseek for more obscure gems.

[alyasa]

To be honest, I really come here to mine for obscure (to me) and exciting gems; because; hey; if I can't trust SY fans in things music-related; who the fuck can I? ^_^

[ni'k]

no. he's right in all ways. what he said is like MASSIVE UNDERSTATEMENT.

people are more interested in chasing after some imagined romantic subjectivity that must somehow be lurking inside the albums pitchfork reviews and are NOT interested in new sounds for their brain cos they can't get over the "am i supposed to like this?" stage and are too self conciouss. they are too hooked on power fantasys fed by musicians celebrity. they imagine some kind of status or life must exist for these people that actually doesn't. as if someday my most narcisstic stupidities will MEAN something because pitchfork will review them on my record and take about how ive returned to form and all my feelings and shit in the song and then ill be the big man. they see some fuckbunch posing in a band pic and think it must be real and there must be some magical place everything is like that and these commodities are my tickets to get into that realm. nope.

ok first thing i see on the page today

Paul Weller has said that his most recent album, 2008's 22 Dreams, was in many ways a response to turning 50. It was a gift to himself-- creating something indulgent, sprawling, and guest-heavy. Then again, Weller has never cared what anyone else thinks about him. This is a guy who disbanded the Jam at the peak of its popularity, did the same with the Style Council, then went solo and emerged if anything even more popular than before. Heck, he even dismissed most of his band before recording 22 Dreams, preferring a start-from-scratch approach.

really you fucking douche, he's never cared what anyone thinks of him? are you sure you're not just spinning some bullshit myth here. are you sure thats not utter crap. are you sure you're not just saying "this guy is so cool, he doesn't care what anyone thinks about him, and his products prove it" so that impressionable teenage nerds can buy into your fantasy of music somehow legitimising their personalities.

One familiar name who returns on Wake Up the Nation is frequent Weller producer and collaborator Simon Dine, who reportedly first delivered several of these songs to Weller in sketchy, abstract form and thus inspired the man to dive back into work. The biggest name enlisted to flesh out this rollicking and free-ranging set, however, is My Bloody Valentine's Kevin Shields, who crops up on "7&3 Is the Strikers Names" to help further blur the edges of the wobbly psych-rock confection. Move/ELO drummer Bev Bevan shows up on a couple of tracks-- the deliriously loose title track and opener "Moonshine", which finds Weller in ramshackle, rough-around-the-edges VU territory. And then there's the unlikely presence of former Jam cohort Bruce Foxton on bass, recording with Weller for the first time in nearly three decades. In fact, the propulsive low end runs of "Fast Car/Slow Traffic" almost seem designed to showcase Foxton and reference Weller's old sound.

oh really you fucking douche guzzling ultra douches, does a bunch of fucking namedropping make us supposed to give a shit. inspired the man to dive back into his work? are you sure this isnt some old fuckin hasbeen using his celebrity to shift some units because its all he's got left. by now you have made the idea of even making music seem so impossibly unappealing that i cant even imagine anything else.

Then again, the disc is practically teaming over with Weller's various interests and influences, past and present. "Two Fat Ladies" recalls the larger than life riffage of prime Who; Weller's love of soul is reflected in "No Tears to Cry" (Northern soul) and "Aim High" (blue-eyed funk). Scattered throughout are everything from free jazz flourishes and psych-freakouts like "Find the Torch, Burn the Plans" to introspective Dylan ditties like "Grasp & Still Connect", and, on "Up the Dosage", even a bit of disco.

by now im contemplating some nightmare which in my worst enemies lock me up with these reviewer and force me to listen to the whole album while he reads out his review in a really enthusiastic manner. im sorry but you're reviewing a fucking paul weller album. you'd have to pay me to even listen to it.

That the disc doesn't fall apart is a testament to its restless efficiency. Most tracks top off at the mid-two minute mark, and even at 16 songs Wake Up the Nation totals a mere 40 minutes. That's just about a half-hour shorter than 22 Dreams, but the disc in turn is twice the fun. Artists Weller's age often falter trying to chase the past. Weller, on the other hand, simply brings his musical baggage along with him wherever he goes, unpacking or picking up new things as necessary. Whether anyone else follows him, well, that's really none of his concern, but with albums like this one it's hard not to at least sit up and take notice of Weller's creative renewal.

im sorry, i was sitting down. who the fuck are these imaginary douches that are going to sit up and take notice of his creative renewal. are you sure you're just not trying to be come off all cool. who the fuck is this addressed to anyway? the imaginary realm of people that will legitimise you emotionally if you make music? am i missing something here?

see these idiots try to make music somehow a symbol of the self of the "artist". they are just propagating consumer friendly myths for the douchey fuckin acoustic indie wanks that read them and think that "wow, as a musician i really identify with that, you know, since im an artist now, because ive decided that i am. and if i just keep reading how to do it then someday ill be a superstar, and never have to grow up, and my feelings will be important, and peope will chronicle them in reviews, thus keeping me in an infantile bubble forever."

it also gives like 6.7 out of 10 reviews to anything remotely interesting. which is basically another way of killing the fucking album completely. whereas the bigger the name and the blander the product the higher the review. its a business created by the need for advertising. it has exactly fuck of an all to do with new music.

unless you're label can pay for a good enough review you won't get a look in

i mean look at tehir fucking news section. SOME RICH INDIE CELEBRITY HAS DECIDED TO CONTRIBUTE A B SIDE TO A BENEFIT COMPILATION. fuck off and die in a fucking ditch you ultra douche.

the idea that this shit is actually news or somehow related to whats happening in music is a fucking joke

[Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski]

Why do people rip on Pitchfork so much? There are like thousands of websites, blogs, message boards, etc that talk about more underground music that's totally under the radar. It's not tough to find. Generally, I happen upon it without really trying. And I learn about great music that I wouldn't have found on Pitchfork.

Pitchfork is a website that caters to the popular indie rock scene. Many people here do not like said scene. Why bother to get so frustrated with it?

I understand that it often reeks of pretention and there is an element of being "cooler" than mainstream rock that could piss off people. There's, of course, a deeper underground that's far more interesting and has more substance. But, shit, the most surface level of underground is never going to go away.

I read Pitchfork. I'm excited about anything new that the Jicks put out because I like their albums and I like seeing them in concert. Their music makes me happy, and I like being happy. The fact that Beck has a hand in it makes me about 1/10th more excited for the release. I'm happy that a website I look at with a passing interest informed me of this so I can maybe listen to the album and wonder what Beck added to it. I'm not a bad person. If anyone on this website were to recommend an album to me that I might like as a Jicks fan (that I might not have heard of as a "Pitchfork Reader"), I'd probably download it--then buy it if I really liked it.

I say this with the utmost respect Atsonicpark (I've been reading your posts and this board for years and years)--you need to lay off the holier than thou shit. You spin things to make yourself out to be so much better than 95% of the world. Things are not that simple. Nothing is ever as simple as you try to spin it. Rather than tell me that I'm full of shit; try maybe saying, "You know, if you like the Jicks, you might really like..."

Then you won't be such an ass anymore--you'll be helpful.

[TheMadcapLaughs]

yeah, i dont really like pitchfork's reviews or anything but they update news like a mutherfucker so its worth checking out in the morning for me. not for new sounds really, but for the news about some bands i like. beck hasn't really done anything that great for some years now but I do like the last jicks album so im curious to see what they come up with.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski

I say this with the utmost respect Atsonicpark (I've been reading your posts and this board for years and years)--you need to lay off the holier than thou shit. You spin things to make yourself out to be so much better than 95% of the world. Things are not that simple. Nothing is ever as simple as you try to spin it. Rather than tell me that I'm full of shit; try maybe saying, "You know, if you like the Jicks, you might really like..."

because there is no answer to that question. if you like the jicks you might like.... shit?

[ni'k]

and i think you mistook my post for adams cos im the one being the biggest "ass" and id like the goddamn credit for it.

[chicka]

Originally Posted by alyasa

To be honest, I really come here to mine for obscure (to me) and exciting gems; because; hey; if I can't trust SY fans in things music-related; who the fuck can I? ^_^

couldn't say it better myself. since becoming more active here, I've been turned onto atleast a dozen bands that I had never paid attention to before.

[ni'k]

also, to be serious for a moment. its important to attack shit like pitchfork because it really is damaging for music and peoples health with the myths it puts across.

there is nothing to stop them using their power for good but they won't.

imagine if the mayyors putting out a new ep was what they considered news instead of fucking RADIOHEAD B-SIDE FROM 1993 TO APPEAR ON STARBUCKS TRIBUTE ALBUM.

[SYRFox]

To be honest I don't really see the point in blaming Pitchfork again and again. Sure, they got this boring hipster thing, etc, and I rarely agree with them (their Best New Music is complete bullshit too). But I mean, it's the fucking Internet. (please note I'm not saying "INTERNET IS SERIOUZ BIZNESS BIATCH". I'm so bored with that). The point is in the fact that the user selects his own content. It's not as if you were in front of a television with one or two channel to watch. If there's content you do not like or agree with you got plenty of things to watch/read instead. If you do not like Pitchfork, why bother about them? (the same applies to the threads in a board actually...) There's plenty of other things to "select". I'm especially saying that for atsonicpark actually, since I've already read you complaining about the payola and stuff many times already... By paying attention to them you're actually reinforcing their power.

That said, I fully agree on the fact that people should care more about music and use the awesome tool that is the Internet. We are in a time where you can basically find anything you want and nobody seems to understand, they still need to follow the advices of said "experts" which can point in the right direction; while everybody is actually able to find out their own music they are going to like. I guess music is not that important for everyone. (this is the moment when I'm not sure what point I am trying to make anymore)

[ni'k]

NO U DUNT GEDDIT.

HERE IS ME :

 

HERE IS MI MASIV#F#E UYNDGERFROUND DICK:

 

 

HER IS PUTCHFROK:

 

[SYRFox]

Originally Posted by ni'k

NO U DUNT GEDDIT.

HERE IS ME :

 

omg damn u sexy bitch

 

[ni'k]

 

U WNAT 2 BE PHUCKED BI MI SALAMI?